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4 minutes ago, CptCanuck16 said:

Sounds about right. 11 minutes of 4th line time plus an extra 3 per game on the PK. 

 

His first season here he was playing top line minutes with the twins trying to 'jump start his offense', so averaging 18 per game. Obviously that never panned out.

He's not a 4th liner nor is he deployed like one. 

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2 hours ago, oldnews said:

Yawn.   Another cool story/myth.

Heading into last night's game...

Edler has played 889 minutes this year.

Gud had played 938.

Tanev also turns the puck over with more frequency = 32 turnovers vs 21 - with only 112 more minutes this season than Gubranson.

Do the simple math as opposed to theGuardian shizz-goggles spin.

Suggesting a troll do the math is a bit like suggesting your dog play the piano. At best, all you will get is some random noise.

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33 minutes ago, A.V.'s slurp said:

Travis seems to be annoyed by Jeff Patterson's questions just as much as I am.

I think it's Asserson's very presence that's grating on the nerves and his demented radio voice that's an unholy mix of Johnny Carson and a diseased yak. 

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3 hours ago, CptCanuck16 said:

And you say this because......?

 

 Numbers wise, Eriksson has a slight edge at 0.64PPG over his career vs Gagne's 0.56 but the big difference is that Eriksson put up good numbers early in his career and has essentially fallen of a cliff since joining Vancouver and appears to no longer have any offensive prowess anymore. How many times have we seen him carry the puck into the zone with time and space for a shot only to end up passing it to someone else who's covered by one or two defenders resulting in a turn over? It happens at least twice a game!

 

Gagner on the other hand,  has been consistently putting up around 40pts (10G, 30A) season after season. I'd rather have someone who you know exactly what to expect in terms of production and who will chip in from time to time to score a goal or set one up rather than a one dimensional PK specialist. 

 

When you factor in salary ($3.5m Gagner vs $7.0m Eriksson ) it's no contest! But of course we're stuck with Eriksson for at least one more season until his modified NTC kicks in. I honestly believe that horrible contract is the only reason he's still here and Gagne's in the minors.

Gagner is useless to this team. Your stats don't mean much.

 

At least Ericksson can play defence and that IS what this team needs.

 

Edit: anyway...moving on from the ridiculous belief gagner is anywhere as useful to the Canucks as Ericksoon. Salary doesn't mean &^%$.

 

Great game by Marky and a good win!!

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1 hour ago, WeneedLumme said:
4 hours ago, oldnews said:

Yawn.   Another cool story/myth.

Heading into last night's game...

Edler has played 889 minutes this year.

Gud had played 938.

Tanev also turns the puck over with more frequency = 32 turnovers vs 21 - with only 112 more minutes this season than Gubranson.

Do the simple math as opposed to theGuardian shizz-goggles spin.

Suggesting a troll do the math is a bit like suggesting your dog play the piano. At best, all you will get is some random noise.

You see, it is like this, you take the number of minutes played and DIVIDE them by the number of games, this gives you the average icetime per game.

If you like since 2016/2017 to date

Edler - 4241 minutes

Gudbranson - 2505 minutes

 

It is the same with give aways and take aways Guddy 6 takes and 21 gives, Tanev 21 takes and 32 gives. Context.

 

Your post is a little like, and the score is Winnipeg 5 …..

 

You see the way you posted the numbers had no context, 2505 minutes in 3 seasons is clearly #8 or 9 dman or worse.

 

Educating the less endowed is the duty of …..

:roflmao:

 

 

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23 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said:

You see, it is like this, you take the number of minutes played and DIVIDE them by the number of games, this gives you the average icetime per game.

If you like since 2016/2017 to date

Edler - 4241 minutes

Gudbranson - 2505 minutes

 

It is the same with give aways and take aways Guddy 6 takes and 21 gives, Tanev 21 takes and 32 gives. Context.

 

Your post is a little like, and the score is Winnipeg 5 …..

 

You see the way you posted the numbers had no context, 2505 minutes in 3 seasons is clearly #8 or 9 dman or worse.

 

Educating the less endowed is the duty of …..

:roflmao:

 

 

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Man are we in a good situation. Markstrom is playing lights out. Literally playing like a top 5 goalie in the league and hes only 29. We have Demko in the wings. While we know he will be good, with the way Markstrom is playing now, we have a guaranteed top 5 goalie in the present and i dont know if Demko will be as good as Markstrom is (if Markstrom can continue this level of play). 

We have Hughes and Juolevi but unlike the past when we are hoping guys like Hodgson, Jensen, White pan out, these guys are surefire NHLers. The guys we feel optimistic about like Madden, Woo, Rathbone are probably the same risk level or even better chance to make it compared to our first round busts mentioned above. Hutton and Stecher look great this year. 

Gaudette is also waiting in the wings. One more solid draft this year and a couple key FA signings and we will be set. 

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5 hours ago, guntrix said:

Exactly. 

 

People will deny it but it's true that expectations have been tempered compared to what people were saying when he got here. 

 

Guddy's not a top 4 d-man, and he's shown it in his time here. It's telling that both Pouliot and Hutton have played better without him. It's also telling that the only way you can keep his head above water is by pairing him with one of our top-2 d-men. 

 

At the end of the day, even if one decides to conveniently ignore his stats, he doesn't even pass the eye test on most nights. It doesn't matter how fervently one defends him, his play on the ice is what really matters. 

I think if we had a solid top 3, guddy would fill out the 4th spot just fine. 

Problem is, canucks have Edler (2D at best), Tanev (2D), and then 5D to 7D.

Imagine we were Nashville or SJ and had the likes of Karlsson, Burns, vlasic. I think guddy would be fine in the 4th spot.

Even if canucks had a bona fide 1D, things would look  different. 

I. E. 

Karlsson Tanev

Edler Gudbranson 

Hutton Stecher

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Boy I'd kill to squeeze into the 2nd wild card and face off versus Calgary in the first round. 

 

Can you smell it?! Upset! 

 

For the record the 2004 Canucks would easily beat Calgary and go on to the cup final had the old boys club not handed Bertuzzi a knee jerk extreme suspension. He shoulda been suspended for all the regular season. No longer. He didn't clone himself and jump on top and make a pile pressuring Moore's neck. 

 

2004 Canucks are Stanley Cup Champions in my books. 

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1 hour ago, apollo said:

Boy I'd kill to squeeze into the 2nd wild card and face off versus Calgary in the first round. 

 

Can you smell it?! Upset! 

 

For the record the 2004 Canucks would easily beat Calgary and go on to the cup final had the old boys club not handed Bertuzzi a knee jerk extreme suspension. He shoulda been suspended for all the regular season. No longer. He didn't clone himself and jump on top and make a pile pressuring Moore's neck. 

 

2004 Canucks are Stanley Cup Champions in my books. 

I could see the Canucks beat the everloving $&!# out of Calgary in a seven game series. 

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I like to assess players for a stretch longer then 1 game. CDC has a tendency to make huge judgements after the play of 1 game for certain players.

 

Markstrom - I think he has reached the point of legit #1 NHL goalie.

Petterson- The second coming of Bure and will probably be the best Canuck ever and Will bring this city a Cup

Stecher - Had a great game but needs to do more on a more consistent basis. Think Markstrom's consistency.

Biega- He had a bad game. First bad one this year. He is consistent over all.

Goldy- still needs work

Virtanen - still needs work

Bo/Boes - still need refining but right behind Petterson in learning the ropes.

Lievo - really think once he gets comfortable with a line he is going to be an effective top 6.

Gudbranson - Not a top 4 dman but is needed for his toughness on the team. 

Pouliot  - getting very close to the point of no return. Has raw skills but just doesn't seem to get the mental part of the game down pact.

 

We are rebuilding and I think a lot of these players are being assessed. Who will be part of the future? Still lots of unanswered questions but some patterns are definitely emerging and the cream is rising to the top.

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