Warhippy Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, otherwise said: you mean the tax avoidance? that was like 2 years ago and yes also super problematic. It's partly why I think a full public inquiry is needed this time around. That one I believe also involved the finance minister, or his office and he has again popped up in this mess. This was back in early 2015 it broke but the meetings between the then government and KPMG were done earlier. Harper was then hired by the law firm that helped KPMG which...well let's be honest here. Doesn't pass the smell test https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/harper-government-partnered-with-industry-group-battling-cra-over-kpmg-case-1.3257994 https://www.taxfairness.ca/en/news/harpers-new-job-tax-haven-connection https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/kpmg-tax-sham-used-by-at-least-25-wealthy-canadians-document-says-1.3249468 Trudeau has donors as well that are or were involved in the offshore avoidance and is equally as in the spotlight as he should be. Again, ti comes down to the laughable belief that they're somehow different from each other when the facts so easily show they're exactly the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 JWR should run for PM as an independent. Quadra Island represent! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lionized27 said: JWR should run for PM as an independent. Quadra Island represent! Really. I would prefer to have a competent PM in place. Canadians are so lucky / fortunate to have the exceptional strong leadership that Justin T gives us. As JT ages and gets more experience.... hopefully someday he can even be as strong as his dad Pierre was..... Pierre T was one of Canada's alltime greatest PM 's. Edited February 28, 2019 by kingofsurrey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otherwise Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: This was back in early 2015 it broke but the meetings between the then government and KPMG were done earlier. Harper was then hired by the law firm that helped KPMG which...well let's be honest here. Doesn't pass the smell test https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/harper-government-partnered-with-industry-group-battling-cra-over-kpmg-case-1.3257994 https://www.taxfairness.ca/en/news/harpers-new-job-tax-haven-connection https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/kpmg-tax-sham-used-by-at-least-25-wealthy-canadians-document-says-1.3249468 Trudeau has donors as well that are or were involved in the offshore avoidance and is equally as in the spotlight as he should be. Again, ti comes down to the laughable belief that they're somehow different from each other when the facts so easily show they're exactly the same ah, yes. Forgot it went back that far. If only tax avoidance by the wealthy and large companies could be stopped. I'll keep dreaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Hockey Place Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 In my view both the PM and Ms Wilson-Raybould come across reasonable to me. Especially commend the later for coming forward against her own party. Overall I think it's a good thing to bring attention to. It needs to be open. And if this continues as a pattern, the voter should let the government know this October. However the most illuminating thing about this ordeal to me is the conduct of Andrew Scheer. Today, calling on the PM to resign. Displaying all the opposite qualities wanted in a level-headed, rational leader. It's no wonder he appeals to people who share the same quality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Really. I would prefer to have a competent PM in place. Canadians are so lucky / fortunate to have the exceptional strong leadership that Justin T gives us. As JT ages and gets more experience.... hopefully someday he can even be as strong as his dad Pierre was..... Pierre T was one of Canada's alltime greatest PM 's. You're either trolling or drunk. Possibly both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Lionized27 said: You're either trolling or drunk. Possibly both. Wow. I thought all Canadians agreed that Pierre Trudeau was a top 5 Prime Minister in Canadian history.... Do you have any interest in Canadian history ? Pierre Trudeau - third longest running PM in Canadian history ( 15 yrs 164 days ) Legacy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Trudeau Trudeau remains well regarded by many Canadians.[105] 09] Trudeau's electoral successes were matched in the 20th century only by those of Mackenzie King.[110][111] Trudeau's most enduring legacy may lie in his contribution to Canadian nationalism, and of pride in Canada in and for itself rather than as a derivative of the British Commonwealth. . Maclean's 1997 and 2011 scholarly surveys ranked him twice as the fifth best Canadian prime minister.[113] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, kingofsurrey said: Wow. I thought all Canadians agreed that Pierre Trudeau was a top 5 Prime Minister in Canadian history.... Do you have any interest in Canadian history ? Pierre Trudeau - third longest running PM in Canadian history ( 15 yrs 164 days ) Legacy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Trudeau Trudeau remains well regarded by many Canadians.[105] 09] Trudeau's electoral successes were matched in the 20th century only by those of Mackenzie King.[110][111] Trudeau's most enduring legacy may lie in his contribution to Canadian nationalism, and of pride in Canada in and for itself rather than as a derivative of the British Commonwealth. . Maclean's 1997 and 2011 scholarly surveys ranked him twice as the fifth best Canadian prime minister.[113] You and I have had this exact debate and I refuse to re-engage. Check your post history to refresh your limited memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Lionized27 said: You're either trolling or drunk. Possibly both. While he was polarizing, in hindsight the things he did certainly made Canada the country it is. he screwed up a lot (BOC....) but much of what he put in to practice was fundementtal in ensuring our nation was what it was in its infancy post British Rule. The NEP for me is the ultimate definition of "in hindsight maybe..." Like him or hate him, the guy earned my respect. Edited February 28, 2019 by Warhippy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Warhippy said: While he was polarizing, in hindsight the things he did certainly made Canada the country it is. he screwed up a lot (BOC....) but much of what he put in to practice was fundementtal in ensuring our nation was what it was in its infancy post British Rule. The NEP for me is the ultimate definition of "in hindsight maybe..." It only took 30 odd years for the country to resurface from his debt as well. He was a spending fool who tripled federal spending in 10 YEARS. Legacy indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Warhippy said: While he was polarizing, in hindsight the things he did certainly made Canada the country it is. he screwed up a lot (BOC....) but much of what he put in to practice was fundementtal in ensuring our nation was what it was in its infancy post British Rule. The NEP for me is the ultimate definition of "in hindsight maybe..." Like him or hate him, the guy earned my respect. Pierre Trudeau love him or hate him is the Father of Modern Day Canada..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: I would invite you but you're so obsessed with the US I don't think yo could find the time. It's all good, Ryan... ....I've drunk beer with bikers, hookers, drug dealers and people who like to have sex with farm animals..... ...but I have to draw the line somewhere.... Edited February 28, 2019 by RUPERTKBD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, Lionized27 said: It only took 30 odd years for the country to resurface from his debt as well. He was a spending fool who tripled federal spending in 10 YEARS. Legacy indeed. You need to study Canadian history.... https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/pierre-elliott-trudeau-feature In a recent book, two historians ranked Pierre Trudeau a paltry fifth among Canada's prime ministers. If criteria for eminence were to include vision, force of character, style or intellect, then surely none but Macdonald would surpass Trudeau. He would be considered truly the second father of his country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Pierre Trudeau love him or hate him is the Father of Modern Day Canada..... Well, he was at least the sperm donor....don't think he was much of a father. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Well, he was at least the sperm donor....don't think he was much of a father. I thought that was Fidel Castro. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) 39 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: You need to study Canadian history.... https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/pierre-elliott-trudeau-feature In a recent book, two historians ranked Pierre Trudeau a paltry fifth among Canada's prime ministers. If criteria for eminence were to include vision, force of character, style or intellect, then surely none but Macdonald would surpass Trudeau. He would be considered truly the second father of his country. What did I just post about engaging me on this? Start by reading this, perhaps? I absolutely know it won't change your mind but it will certainly give you a broader more realistic perspective of his actual track record. https://nationalpost.com/full-comment/david-frum-the-disastrous-legacy-of-pierre-trudeau Edit: I should also add that your evaluation of talent makes me truly appreciate the fact you're not involved in any way with the scouting staff of the Canucks. Edited February 28, 2019 by Lionized27 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: It's all good, Ryan... ....I've drunk beer with bikers, hookers, drug dealers and people who like to gave sex with farm animals..... ...but I have to draw the line somewhere.... Thats was just last nite wasnt it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warhippy Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Lionized27 said: What did I just post about engaging me on this? Start by reading this, perhaps? I absolutely know it won't change your mind but it will certainly give you a broader more realistic perspective of his actual track record. https://nationalpost.com/full-comment/david-frum-the-disastrous-legacy-of-pierre-trudeau Lol...David Frum....his opinion isn't exactly something I would put forth ahead of stark statistical fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Lol...David Frum....his opinion isn't exactly something I would put forth ahead of stark statistical fact Haha! You're here to tell me there's no factual basis in that article? All opinion is it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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