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Elliotte Friedman has suggested Canucks will be major players and will have 20-30 million in cap space to spend. It's likely the Canucks will drop out of the playoff race and then we wait for the lottery balls (Edmonton, Ott/Col and New York Rangers, Detroit likely in top 4 slots). 

 

Canucks need top 6 wingers (scorers), size and a D overhaul. About 20 games left in the season, predict the UFA signings and for fun guess their 1st round pick selection.

 

2019-2020 Roster

 

Pearson - Horvat - Boeser

_______ - Petterson - Leivo

Roussel - Beagle - ______

Eriksson - Gaudette - Motte

 

Extras: Spooner, MacEwen, _____

 

____ - Stecher

Hutton - ______

____ - Hughes*

 

Extras: Juolevi* (starts in AHL again), Sautner, Biega, Brisebois, Chatfield

 

Markstrom

Demko

 

Utica - Leighton (1 year contract vet to replace Bachman) or Mazanec 

Kalamazoo - Kublakov/DiPietro 

 

Draft

 

Picking #7 - Bowen Byram

 

UFA Targets

 

Defense

- Chara (it's Benning and co....I think they'll try 1-2 year $$$ incentive based contract ONLY if Bruins don't bring the 42 year old back)

- Brad Hunt (pp unit 2 or depth dman)

- Tyler Myers (Benning connection)

- Jake Gardiner (Canucks new whipping boy)

- Ben Chiarot

 

Forwards

- Micheal Haley (Benning loves a feisty player...see Marchand, Dorsett, Roussel)

- Michael Raffl

- Anders Lee (LW big body)

- Jeff Skinner (was rumored Benning had interest; will throw term likely)

- Michael Ferland (another LW big body; BC connections)

- Joonas Donskoi (putting up good numbers but only if they let Leivo go UFA)

 

Big name UFA Canucks will try to sign (but will fall short) = one of Karlsson + Panarin 

 

Trades

Edler's rights to be dealt for a pick before UFA, one or 2 of Goldobin/Virtanen/Sutter traded at the draft or July. Schaller bought out. Gaunce/Eriksson/Biega kept for Seattle expansion. Baer retires due to concussions. 

 

Canucks trade target - NJ Forward Miles Wood & Jets D Trouba

 

Honorable Mention - Granlund, Biega, Poo are gone. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I expect us to draft around 10-12 this year and also expect to make one or two medium to large splashes in the defensemen pool based on Jim's remarks. Maybe a forward as well, but we did a lot of that last year. That said, a replacement for Baertschi is probably necessary and no one from within has shown to be good enough yet.

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Personally I think we should be trading some older pieces this offseason for top picks. Then sign a UFA or three. Myers and Dzingel (or Nelson) ideally, and then an older guy like Williams who can be traded at the deadline.

 

Tanev for a 1st at next deadline

Sutter for a 2nd

Pearson for a 2nd

Granlund for a 3rd

Schaller for a 6th

 

Goldy-Pettersson-Boeser

Dzingel-Horvat-Williams

Leivo-Gaudette-Virtanen

Roussel-Beagle-Motte

Spooner                              Utica call-ups- MacEwen, Gaunce, Lind, Jasek

 

Edler-Myers

Hutton-Stecher

Hughes-Tanev

Sautner-Schenn                 Utica call-ups- Juolevi, Brisebois, Chatfield

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We need to work on our defence

After being $&!# for this many years there is no excuse to be still relying on our two old workhorses (Edler/Tanev).

By now we should have had atleast 2 new guys on the big club taking serious minutes and a few legitimate guys waiting in the wing. 

Potential is always fun to get excited about but thats all it is.

 

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A lot of competition for forward spots next year. Still a bit light on right wing though.

LW                                                C                                                   RW

Baertschi                                     Horvat                                         Boeser

Goldobin                                      Petterson                                   Virtanen

Lievo                                            Sutter                                           Eriksson                          

Roussel                                       Beagle                                          Motte

Pearson                                      Gaudette                                      Granlund

Spooner                                      Spooner

Granlund                                     Granlund

Eriksson                                     Motte

Schaller                                      Schaller

Motte

 

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I don't want anything to do with Gardiner. No thanks.

 

I'm actually hoping they don't dip too much into the weak ufa market. It's top heavy. If we can't land a big fish I hope we don't sign a bunch of medium/small fish to significant term.

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1 hour ago, Zhukini said:

So many mistakes to be made with the secondary free agent market whether it be Eberle, Gardiner, Ferland or Simmonds. 

 

Go big game hunting with Karlsson, if you can't don't spend money to spend money. 

Very concerned that they will make a big free agency mistake . Maybe a couple . Was only hoping to go hard after stone but that’s out the window .

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Andreas Johnsson (4x3.5)-Pettersson-Boeser (8x6.5)

Ferland(5x5)-Horvat-Levio(2x1.5)

Baertschi-Gaudette-Virtanen

Roussel-Beagle-Motte

 

Edler(3x4.5)-Karlsson(7x11)

Hughes-Stecher

Hutton (3x3)-Schenn (1x1.25)

 

Marky

Demko

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Move out 

 

 

Sutter 4.3 mill for picks 

Tanev 4.4 mill to Leafs for Johnsson (They won't be able to sign him) Leafs need Dman still under good contract before they can win

 Eriksson 6 mill for whatever I'd include 2nd rounders to get rid of him (ARI maybe?) 2 rounders?

Pearson 3.7 for picks (Unless he works out really well with Bo or Petey 

Spooner 3.1 for someone throw in some late round picks to get rid of him 

Schaller 1.9  try to try or throw in AHL

 

MOVE OUT 20 mill argument sake we take back 10 million we can then move those pieces out for picks

 

 

Sign 

 

Erik Karlsson - 7x11 - We need a true #1 Dman that can play 20+ a night. Moves puck great. Will be valuable for Hughes to learn from. Our defence becomes really mobile. 

Micheal Ferland 5x5 - We are lacking toughness upfront and he brings this with about 40 pts 20~goals. Playoff type players thats what we are building towards. Will help Jake learn to be a mean SOB.

 

Then sign depth players to 1 yr deals to fill in if we get injuries.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I think they re-sign Edler and sign some lower key guys like they did this year. My guesses are Anton Stralman and Marcus Johansson.

 

Draft pick I think we draft around 8 and I’ll be sad when we pass on Krebs and maybe even Boldy because Benning is positionally hunting a dman and selects Broberg or Soderstrom.

 

Side note I do really like Soderstrom and have him in my top 10 just have him a few spots behind the forwards.

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1 hour ago, Silky mitts said:

Very concerned that they will make a big free agency mistake . Maybe a couple . Was only hoping to go hard after stone but that’s out the window .

I have it at about a 75% chance, they’re like kids who can’t sit still

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2 hours ago, Lui's Knob said:

Elliotte Friedman has suggested Canucks will be major players and will have 20-30 million in cap space to spend. It's likely the Canucks will drop out of the playoff race and then we wait for the lottery balls (Edmonton, Ott/Col and New York Rangers, Detroit likely in top 4 slots). 

 

Canucks need top 6 wingers (scorers), size and a D overhaul. About 20 games left in the season, predict the UFA signings and for fun guess their 1st round pick selection.

 

2019-2020 Roster

 

Pearson - Horvat - Boeser

_______ - Petterson - Leivo

Roussel - Beagle - ______

Eriksson - Gaudette - Motte

 

Extras: Spooner, MacEwen, _____

 

____ - Stecher

Hutton - ______

____ - Hughes*

 

Extras: Juolevi* (starts in AHL again), Sautner, Biega, Brisebois, Chatfield

 

Markstrom

Demko

 

Utica - Leighton (1 year contract vet to replace Bachman) or Mazanec 

Kalamazoo - Kublakov/DiPietro 

 

Draft

 

Picking #7 - Bowen Byram

 

UFA Targets

 

Defense

- Chara (it's Benning and co....I think they'll try 1-2 year $$$ incentive based contract ONLY if Bruins don't bring the 42 year old back)

- Brad Hunt (pp unit 2 or depth dman)

- Tyler Myers (Benning connection)

- Jake Gardiner (Canucks new whipping boy)

- Ben Chiarot

 

Forwards

- Micheal Haley (Benning loves a feisty player...see Marchand, Dorsett, Roussel)

- Michael Raffl

- Anders Lee (LW big body)

- Jeff Skinner (was rumored Benning had interest; will throw term likely)

- Michael Ferland (another LW big body; BC connections)

- Joonas Donskoi (putting up good numbers but only if they let Leivo go UFA)

 

Big name UFA Canucks will try to sign (but will fall short) = one of Karlsson + Panarin 

 

Trades

Edler's rights to be dealt for a pick before UFA, one or 2 of Goldobin/Virtanen/Sutter traded at the draft or July. Schaller bought out. Gaunce/Eriksson/Biega kept for Seattle expansion. Baer retires due to concussions. 

 

Canucks trade target - NJ Forward Miles Wood & Jets D Trouba

 

Honorable Mention - Granlund, Biega, Poo are gone. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Lui's Knob said:

Elliotte Friedman has suggested Canucks will be major players and will have 20-30 million in cap space to spend. It's likely the Canucks will drop out of the playoff race and then we wait for the lottery balls (Edmonton, Ott/Col and New York Rangers, Detroit likely in top 4 slots). 

 

Canucks need top 6 wingers (scorers), size and a D overhaul. About 20 games left in the season, predict the UFA signings and for fun guess their 1st round pick selection.

 

2019-2020 Roster

 

Pearson - Horvat - Boeser

_______ - Petterson - Leivo

Roussel - Beagle - ______

Eriksson - Gaudette - Motte

 

Extras: Spooner, MacEwen, _____

 

____ - Stecher

Hutton - ______

____ - Hughes*

 

Extras: Juolevi* (starts in AHL again), Sautner, Biega, Brisebois, Chatfield

 

Markstrom

Demko

 

Utica - Leighton (1 year contract vet to replace Bachman) or Mazanec 

Kalamazoo - Kublakov/DiPietro 

 

Draft

 

Picking #7 - Bowen Byram

 

UFA Targets

 

Defense

- Chara (it's Benning and co....I think they'll try 1-2 year $$$ incentive based contract ONLY if Bruins don't bring the 42 year old back)

- Brad Hunt (pp unit 2 or depth dman)

- Tyler Myers (Benning connection)

- Jake Gardiner (Canucks new whipping boy)

- Ben Chiarot

 

Forwards

- Micheal Haley (Benning loves a feisty player...see Marchand, Dorsett, Roussel)

- Michael Raffl

- Anders Lee (LW big body)

- Jeff Skinner (was rumored Benning had interest; will throw term likely)

- Michael Ferland (another LW big body; BC connections)

- Joonas Donskoi (putting up good numbers but only if they let Leivo go UFA)

 

Big name UFA Canucks will try to sign (but will fall short) = one of Karlsson + Panarin 

 

Trades

Edler's rights to be dealt for a pick before UFA, one or 2 of Goldobin/Virtanen/Sutter traded at the draft or July. Schaller bought out. Gaunce/Eriksson/Biega kept for Seattle expansion. Baer retires due to concussions. 

 

Canucks trade target - NJ Forward Miles Wood & Jets D Trouba

 

Honorable Mention - Granlund, Biega, Poo are gone. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Panarin  Patterson Brock

Goldobin Horvat Leivo

Roussel Beagle Ferland

Motte Gaudette Virtanan

Extras: Spooner Eriksson

 

Karlsson Edler

Tryamkin Hughs

Stecher Juolevi

Extras: Sauntner Chatfeild

 

Marky

Demko

 

Signing Panarin first allows us to entice Tryamkin back along with Goldobins presence for now

With karlsson seeing we sign Panarin he signs

Not sure if this works as far as the cap goes but I think we can squeeze it for a few years with Hughs on entry level

Get rid of Sven, Sutter, Tanev, Granlund, Pearson, Schaller, Biega & Schenn

Vancouver drafts D Bowen Byram

 

Ok boys be nice......:frantic: fire away

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IMO if Pearson finds his scoring touch and Leivo starts to heat up, the Canucks might not need to go out and chase a top UFA fwd.   I 'm hoping those two with Horvat  become something!

 

Give some of the younger guys more opportunity.   If that means making room for them so be it.  This is a team that needs to play fast and with pace.

 

I think Roussel is going to mentor/push Virtanen 

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My fearless predictions. Folks on CDC will be upset at our draft picks, and the UFA's we sign on July 1st. 

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i look at what we have and what we need;

energy guy/pettersson/boeser

roussel/horvat/goal scorer

2 way winger/gaudette/virtanen

defensive winger/beagle/motte

 

edler/fleet 2way rd

hughes/tanev.eventually woo

hutton/stecher

juolevi

 

markstrom/demko

 

we may have some of these players in the organization but maybe not.

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30 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

My fearless predictions. Folks on CDC will be upset at our draft picks, and the UFA's we sign on July 1st. 

Lol and the ones who like it will have all picks slotted in to an imaginary line up  next season!

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Canucks need to a top LW and rebuild the D.

 

Hope they try for any combination of 1 LW and 1 RHD.

 

Panarin/Skinner/Dzingal

Karlsson/Myers

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