Tomatoes11 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/20/2019 at 6:42 PM, Salacious Crumb said: The great thing about this forum is that we can continue to have these discussions. Let’s see what happens July 1 and at the draft. I’m definitely wxcited for next year as the team is definitely on the uptick. Karlsson, Myers, Stone and others are UFA’s, the draft is here so I suspect JB will be working on a trade or 2. JB has proven he is willing to move on from his missteps so maybe a Virtanen, LE and a later pick to move up at the draft or for a solid young prospect move the needle for you at all? Having said that look at the career arc of a Bertuzzi or Benn could be throwing Jake away before he fully comes into his own. It’s a beautiful day - enjoying the Sun, the cherry blossoms and a Canucks victory tonight with an adult beverage on the first day of Spring. Glass half full or half empty, it’s all how you look at it amigo. Zero percent chance Virtanen becomes Benn or Bertuzzi. Yes, Benn was drafted low but he played pretty well from the start even if his numbers didn’t show it right away. JV neither has the numbers or the play. Plays instantly die once the puck hits his stick. Not so much with Benn or Bertuzzi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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-DLC- Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 13 hours ago, Tomatoes11 said: Zero percent chance Virtanen becomes Benn or Bertuzzi. Yes Benn was drafted low but he played pretty well from the start even if his numbers didn’t show it right away. Jv neither has the numbers or the play. Plays instantly die once the pick hits his stick. Not so much with Benn or Bertuzzi. This is such BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/20/2019 at 10:49 AM, appleboy said: With Petey , Hughes , Demko and Gaudette graduating to the NHL our prospect pool is middle of the road or lower end. This year we will be probably drafting outside of the top ten. I dunno, we’ll still have pretty nice pieces in Juolevi, Madden, Rathbone, MacEwen, Lockwood, Karlsson, DiPietro and Woo starting in the minors. All those guys have NHL - upside. Bolded players I can see being real difference makers. Then we’re looking for bounce back years from Lind and Gadj. Toss in our draft battery from 2019 which will likely have another relatively high 1st. Its kinda early in the day to be pouting about a lack of depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 8:15 AM, TheGuardian_ said: Your answer is ridiculous, three years later they got younger, why not ten years later? They said THAT YEAR "get younger", not "sometime in the future". They changed players under the guise of getting younger, younger does not mean better as the Vancouver market learned, 2014 to 2019. Who would complain about 14 of the current Canucks moved on? Complete bull. Your answer is getting younger through younger old players. That getting deceptively younger. I want the team to get younger by actually adding young players with potential that could be around awhile. Which Benning did add. I don't care if the temporary filler guys are 28 or 38 year old free agents back then. They were temps. Adding actual young players is what was, and is, needed. There have been rookies on the starting roster every year. That's where we've been getting younger. In answer to the bold part: you would. It's all you seem to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatoes11 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 https://www.tsn.ca/melnyk-on-leafs-rebuild-mistakes-were-made-and-somebody-forgot-about-defence-1.1277645 Unfortunately, even horrible owners like Melnyk seem to have a better more logical plan than we do for their rebuild. Yes, he shouldn’t have called out the leafs, especially as the last place team in the NHL. But his points about the 5 year window and how critical it is to hoard picks and start the window when the core is young is bang on. Meanwhile Benning and his fans seem to be okay to start the window with older garbage like a baerschi , motte, Sutter, Granlund with a much smaller window instead of hoarding picks. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 11:18 AM, appleboy said: This team has more holes then a stop sign during hunting season. It will take another ten years at this rate. Chicago made a trade that would be a rebuild trade. They landed Strome and Perlini. Young players with room to grow. We are getting 25 to 27 year old duds. Or Vey, Goldy , Dahlen...……… Abysmal They traded a guy a 22 year old coming off a 50 point season and on pace for a 40 point season. They got two 22 year old's in return. How is young for young a rebuild move? Btw, Strome had 16 points in 48 games with Arizona before going to Chicago. Perlini had 57 points in 153 games. It's easy to look at what Strome did after being traded but before the trade he wasn't exactly impressing. I'm not so sure fans would have been elated at that trade here. It would be the equivalent of trading Horvat at 22 coming off his 50 point season. Which would have got the reaction of: Why did we trade Horvat for two 22 year old cast offs from Arizona? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 On 3/22/2019 at 7:30 AM, Tomatoes11 said: https://www.tsn.ca/melnyk-on-leafs-rebuild-mistakes-were-made-and-somebody-forgot-about-defence-1.1277645 Unfortunately, even horrible owners like Melnyk seem to have a better more logical plan than we do for their rebuild. Yes, he shouldn’t have called out the leafs, especially as the last place team in the NHL. But his points about the 5 year window and how critical it is to hoard picks and start the window when the core is young is bang on. Meanwhile Benning and his fans seem to be okay to start the window with older garbage like a baerschi , motte, Sutter, Granlund with a much smaller window instead of hoarding picks. Go figure. "We have eight, actually nine – 10 if you include the goalie – 10 potential stars sitting in Belleville and they're playing and they're playing their hearts out and they want to make the NHL." Did we have that in Utica when Benning took over and needed to replace the whole team? "A lot of people were really upset about us trading away the three in the end - Duchene, and Stone, and Dzingel - and if you think about it, they're all looking for seven, eight-year contracts at the age of 27 and anywhere from $8-$10 million a year." Nor did we have NHL three stars coming up on their first UFA eligible contract to trade away. A far more enviable situation in Ottawa from what Benning started with. Different situations require different paths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 3/20/2019 at 6:42 PM, Salacious Crumb said: The great thing about this forum is that we can continue to have these discussions. Let’s see what happens July 1 and at the draft. I’m definitely wxcited for next year as the team is definitely on the uptick. Karlsson, Myers, Stone and others are UFA’s, the draft is here so I suspect JB will be working on a trade or 2. JB has proven he is willing to move on from his missteps so maybe a Virtanen, LE and a later pick to move up at the draft or for a solid young prospect move the needle for you at all? Having said that look at the career arc of a Bertuzzi or Benn could be throwing Jake away before he fully comes into his own. It’s a beautiful day - enjoying the Sun, the cherry blossoms and a Canucks victory tonight with an adult beverage on the first day of Spring. Glass half full or half empty, it’s all how you look at it amigo. The thing with Bertuzzi is that he put up 39 points as a 19/20 year old (rookie year). I’m not sure why the Islanders gave up on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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