PDSF: (P2) San Jose Sharks vs. (P3) Vegas Golden Knights | Sharks win series 4-3

[Alflives]

4 minutes ago, stawns said:

I don't like Vegas, but that was one of the worst calls I've ever seen.  Sure, your pk sucked, but that shouldn't even have been a minor penalty.

Is there a rule that allows refs to review a penalty call?  

[KelownaCanucksFan]

I don’t understand how so many people here are saying that Vegas got screwed, they did it to the themselves:

 

- they had a 3-1 series lead and blew it, including giving up a short handed winner in game 6

- the 5 min major was absolutely deserved, if the act is worth a minor it clearly states in the rulebook that a 5 min major shall be called if there is a serious injury, it was a penalty for cross checking and in real time looked like it had been to the face. if that was Petey a lot of people here would be calling for a major penalty (ie look at when Kotkenemi injured Petey)

- one of the linesman may have made the call, they are allowed to call penalties as long as they are 4 or 5 min, the protocol for this is to go to the ref at the next whistle and call the penalty, the refs have final say on whether to make the call. I refereed major junior and junior A and only 3 times in 6 seasons did I make a call when a linesman came to me with what he thought was a penalty, most of the time I never called it

- you don’t give up 4 power play goals, the refs didn’t shoot the puck into the net, Vegas got complacent, got cocky and thought they had it in the bag

 

i hate San Jose as much as any Canucks fan should but I'm kinda glad to see Vegas get knocked out, they had to much success too fast, their fan base needs to feel the pain

[Ghostsof1915]

Gee, I wonder what it's like to have your series decided on one call......

 

 

 

I feel more proud of the Canucks. Even with Kesler and Burrows the Canucks didn't whine like Vegas did.

 

 

[Baer.]

On 3/31/2019 at 8:45 PM, Baer. said:

Sharks in 7

Damn right

[spook007]

Diving fish moves on...

Lets hope the ref are less likely too give them soft calls like these clown... Sharks diving all over the place as usual...

 

5x2 + 1X5 v 2x2.... rubbish...

 

Guess Vegas now knows, how it feels like, when you've been robbed....

[spook007]

21 hours ago, Dombrova22 said:

What a $&!#ty night of hockey. Two of my most hated teams move onto the 2nd round. 

I'll support you in wanting them destroyed in the next round...

Edited April 25, 2019 by spook007

[stawns]

27 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Gee, I wonder what it's like to have your series decided on one call......

 

 

 

I feel more proud of the Canucks. Even with Kesler and Burrows the Canucks didn't whine like Vegas did.

 

 

That was a legit major.....maybe not a suspension, but a legit call.  The call last night wasn't even a penalty.

[spook007]

8 hours ago, Bob.Loblaw said:

I don't get the hate for Couture.  He's soft-spoken, a hard-working, clean two-way player.  He's ugly, but we have ugly players too.  He is nothing like Marchand.

Diver.... 

 

9 hours ago, ForsbergTheGreat said:

I smell a rule change in the making for a new coaches challenge. No way Vegas or the league allows this, the amount of revenue it just costed the owners is more than enough to push a change. It’s appalling that a call like that could be made without clear evidence of an action. Unless you see it happen you can’t call it a major. 

 

These refs should never ref another game in the league. And as harsh as that sounds, just think of any other company that has an employee screw up costing a business millions of dollars. I can’t imagine how upset this board would be if that just happened to canucks. 

Think its fair to say the Canucks have been jobbed on more than a few occasions.... 

That said, You're spot on. Of course this board would go off the rails, and rightly so... like when we got jobbed by Sharks diving and their 1001 PP's....

[Hairy Kneel]

This is why we need to get bigger at the draft, size ad skill. Playoffs are a different animal.

[Elias Pettersson]

Not only was it not a penalty the guy they sent off didn't even do anything wrong.  It was a push, not even to the head.  Stastny is the one who actually gave him the extra "push" which made him fall and hit his head.  So they called a 5 minute major for a "push" and they called it on the wrong guy. 

 

The Sharks are done anyways but Vegas had a legit shot at going all the way, especially if Gusev was available for the second round...

[mll]

From the 2018/19 NHL Rulebook - the referee has the latitude to decide whether the cross check is a minor penalty or a major penalty.  

 

Rule 59 – Cross-checking

59.1 Cross-checking - The action of using the shaft of the stick between the two hands to forcefully check an opponent.

 

59.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty, at the discretion of the Referee based on the severity of the contact, shall be imposed on a player who “cross checks” an opponent.

 

59.3  Major Penalty - A major penalty, at the discretion of the Referee based on the severity of the contact, shall be imposed on a player who “cross checks” an opponent (see 59.5).

 

59.4  Match Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a match penalty if, in his judgment, the player attempted to or deliberately injured his opponent by cross-checking.

 

59.5  Game Misconduct Penalty - When a major penalty is assessed for cross-checking, an automatic game misconduct penalty shall be imposed on the offending player.

 

59.6  Fines and Suspensions - When a major penalty is imposed under this rule, an automatic fine of one hundred dollars ($100) shall also be imposed. If deemed appropriate, supplementary discipline can be applied by the Commissioner at his discretion (refer to Rule 28).

 

 

[73 Percent]

12 minutes ago, mll said:

From the 2018/19 NHL Rulebook - the referee has the latitude to decide whether the cross check is a minor penalty or a major penalty.  

 

Rule 59 – Cross-checking

59.1 Cross-checking - The action of using the shaft of the stick between the two hands to forcefully check an opponent.

 

59.2 Minor Penalty - A minor penalty, at the discretion of the Referee based on the severity of the contact, shall be imposed on a player who “cross checks” an opponent.

 

59.3  Major Penalty - A major penalty, at the discretion of the Referee based on the severity of the contact, shall be imposed on a player who “cross checks” an opponent (see 59.5).

 

59.4  Match Penalty – The Referee, at his discretion, may assess a match penalty if, in his judgment, the player attempted to or deliberately injured his opponent by cross-checking.

 

59.5  Game Misconduct Penalty - When a major penalty is assessed for cross-checking, an automatic game misconduct penalty shall be imposed on the offending player.

 

59.6  Fines and Suspensions - When a major penalty is imposed under this rule, an automatic fine of one hundred dollars ($100) shall also be imposed. If deemed appropriate, supplementary discipline can be applied by the Commissioner at his discretion (refer to Rule 28).

 

 

I'm not blaming the entire series on this call. I wanted SJ to win anyway. But just because the ref can make this call doesnt make it the right call. There has been hundreds of crosschecks of this caliber or worse this year that wasn't called  a major.

 

All we want is consistency. 

[PhillipBlunt]

1 hour ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

Gee, I wonder what it's like to have your series decided on one call......

 

 

 

I feel more proud of the Canucks. Even with Kesler and Burrows the Canucks didn't whine like Vegas did.

 

 

Yeah. Hearing Gallant and Marchessault bitch and moan is tiresome. Suck on it, Vegas.

[PhillipBlunt]

6 minutes ago, 73 Percent said:

I'm not blaming the entire series on this call. I wanted SJ to win anyway. But just because the ref can make this call doesnt make it the right call. There has been hundreds of crosschecks of this caliber or worse this year that wasn't called  a major.

 

All we want is consistency. 

And as hockey fans, we will get consistency..................

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Yeah. Hearing Gallant and Marchessault bitch and moan is tiresome. Suck on it, Vegas.

Agreed.  Cup winning teams overcome adversity.  The game was 3-0 when the call was made.  PK better.

[PhillipBlunt]

1 minute ago, Alflives said:

Agreed.  Cup winning teams overcome adversity.  The game was 3-0 when the call was made.  PK better.

Exactly. I seem to remember the Canucks being down to 5 on 3 for 4 minutes this season, and not letting the other team score.

[mll]

15 minutes ago, 73 Percent said:

I'm not blaming the entire series on this call. I wanted SJ to win anyway. But just because the ref can make this call doesnt make it the right call. There has been hundreds of crosschecks of this caliber or worse this year that wasn't called  a major.

 

All we want is consistency. 

The ref told Gallant it was a cross-check to the head.   

 

 

[Alflives]

2 minutes ago, mll said:

The ref told Gallant it was a cross-check to the head.   

 

 

Guys taking draws are in a vulnerable position.  Eakin, after losing the draw, went after Pavelski.  It was a stupid, and dangerous play by Eakin.  No need to attack the other center on that play.  

Still just PK.  Fleury didn’t play great either. 

[PhillipBlunt]

Just now, Alflives said:

Guys taking draws are in a vulnerable position.  Eakin, after losing the draw, went after Pavelski.  It was a stupid, and dangerous play by Eakin.  No need to attack the other center on that play.  

Still just PK.  Fleury didn’t play great either. 

Fleury went from world beater, to beaten. Exactly why Pittsburgh traded him.

[73 Percent]

9 minutes ago, mll said:

The ref told Gallant it was a cross-check to the head.   

 

 

And was it?