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15 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

St. Louis and Dallas.

 

Man, hate both clubs. Can both lose? 

Stars can lose vs the Blues and the Blues can lose next. 

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Hate Seguin.  He’s a little punk - puke. :sick:

For the life of me I can’t figure why I wanted Dallas to this series.  I don’t hate any Nashville player.  I just think they are way overrated, and wanted to see them out.  The Blues will beat Dallas handily.  

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On 4/6/2019 at 8:27 PM, Baer. said:

Nashville in 5

 

Both goalies choke in their respective losses.

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Worst PP in the league and only team to not have scored a PP goal in the post-season.  

 

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1 hour ago, mll said:

Worst PP in the league and only team to not have scored a PP goal in the post-season.  

 

To illustrate how awful that is. Each game is usually 60 minutes long and each powerplay is usually 2 minutes long. If you were on the powerplay the entire game you'd have 60/2 = 30 powerplays. 30 x 0.123 = 3.69 goals. Tampa Bay averaged 3.96 goals per game this year.

 

Even if Nashville played on the powerplay the whole entire game, you could still expect them to score less goals than TB playing a normal game 5 on 5.

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During the regular season Poile said he was concerned with their 2nd line.  He never expected his 1st line to be shutdown.  Arvidsson went scoreless.  Forsberg, Johansen both have 1 goal and 1 assist.

 

Turris continued to struggle and ended up on the 4th line. Poile says he is convinced that Fiala will be a 30 goal scorer but that Granlund fit their window better.  He had 5pts in 16 games to finish the year and 1 goal / 1 assist in the playoff.  


Nashville kept the same core since they went to the finals in 2017 and last summer told Poile to keep the group intact because they felt they had something special going on.  Don't see Poile keeping the status quo this time around.   They just didn't look like a strong contender in the regular season already.  

 

Wonder how he's going to move out of the Turris contract but I expect him to do all he can to try and sign Duchene.  He really wanted Duchene but then settled for Turris.  In hindsight that was a mistake.  Girard would have looked good right now. 

 

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Time for Nashville to blow it up and not hold onto the core too long like that Canucks did.

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4 minutes ago, kurtis said:

Time for Nashville to blow it up and not hold onto the core too long like that Canucks did.

Other than rinne, the oldest member of their core is 29 (turris/subban). Rinne will be replaced by saros.

 

Granlund 

Forseberg

Johanssen 

Arvidsson

 

Are all 26 and under.

 

They still have many years left before a "blow up".

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Gotta wonder if the preds would of been better with S Weber and Seth Jones. Not a fan of either Johansson and PK. Sprinkle in some lame play by Turris and maybe the GM's moves have backfired. 

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1 hour ago, rekker said:

Gotta wonder if the preds would of been better with S Weber...

Nah.

 

1 hour ago, rekker said:

...and Seth Jones...

Hell yeah - Jones looks like he may end up the best of all of them.

 

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3 minutes ago, D-Money said:

Nah.

 

Hell yeah - Jones looks like he may end up the best of all of them.

 

Yip. Seth Jones for Johansson right now? Not a chance in hell .

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4 hours ago, rekker said:

Gotta wonder if the preds would of been better with S Weber and Seth Jones. Not a fan of either Johansson and PK. Sprinkle in some lame play by Turris and maybe the GM's moves have backfired. 

They would still be in need of a C1.

 

Before the trade they were caught in no man's land.  Solid D but not enough up front to do much in the post-season.  Poile said he knew he was trading a future D1 and Norris contender for years to come but that it wasn't working to not have a C1.  He talked about how they had been looking for a C1 ever since their inception some 17 years before.

 

Over 2017 and 2018 Johansen was a PPG for them in the playoffs - this year their whole 1st line struggled and behind them the 2nd line was inexistent.


In the 2016 playoffs Anaheim said they focused on Josi because they knew that Weber would not skate the puck out.  They ended up spending more time defending than playing in the o-zone.  They knew they would be giving up some defence but believed that on balance it would work in their favour to spend more time in the o-zone.  It did - they scored more goals and allowed less than with Weber in the lineup.

 

Issue is that now more and more teams are making that same calculation so what was a distinct advantage is no longer one.   

 

They have always been somewhat sloppy with passes not always crisp but their speed allowed them to compensate and be first to the puck - it's no longer the case with everyone now faster. 

 

They can't come back with the same group because this playoff exit is not like last season.  The team was just not clicking all season and mostly benefited from a weak central division.  

 

 

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7 minutes ago, mll said:

They would still be in need of a C1.

 

Before the trade they were caught in no man's land.  Solid D but not enough up front to do much in the post-season.  Poile said he knew he was trading a future D1 and Norris contender for years to come but that it wasn't working to not have a C1.  He talked about how they had been looking for a C1 ever since their inception some 17 years before.

 

Over 2017 and 2018 Johansen was a PPG for them in the playoffs - this year their whole 1st line struggled and behind them the 2nd line was inexistent.


In the 2016 playoffs Anaheim said they focused on Josi because they knew that Weber would not skate the puck out.  They ended up spending more time defending than playing in the o-zone.  They knew they would be giving up some defence but believed that on balance it would work in their favour to spend more time in the o-zone.  It did - they scored more goals and allowed less than with Weber in the lineup.

 

Issue is that now more and more teams are making that same calculation so what was a distinct advantage is no longer one.   

 

They have always been somewhat sloppy with passes not always crisp but their speed allowed them to compensate and be first to the puck - it's no longer the case with everyone now faster. 

 

They can't come back with the same group because this playoff exit is not like last season.  The team was just not clicking all season and mostly benefited from a weak central division.  

 

 

I agree it isnt clicking. Just a hunch but I'm betting PK is not well liked in that locker room. I'm betting he gets traded this off season. Would also free up a lot of cap space for the players they need to re-sign going forward. 

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On 4/24/2019 at 3:17 AM, rekker said:

I agree it isnt clicking. Just a hunch but I'm betting PK is not well liked in that locker room. I'm betting he gets traded this off season. Would also free up a lot of cap space for the players they need to re-sign going forward. 

 

He looks to be well appreciated in Nashville.   Could still be on his way out though.

 

Poile yesterday said there will be changes but didn't want to go into specifics.   Will be an interesting off season because their window is wide open.

 

In their top-4 the left side is probably staying intact.  Poile wants to extend Josi this summer.  Ekholm had poor playoffs but he was their steadiest D all season and he's signed at only 3.75M.  

 

On the right side.  Laviolette says he thought Fabbro was excellent and sees him taking on a bigger role next season.  This could push Nashville to trade either Ellis or Subban.

 

Ellis is one of theirs but he had such an average season and his new contract has not yet started.  Last summer McKenzie said that both Toronto and Edmonton were particularly interested in Ellis but he extended in Nashville. 

 

Poile all season admitted being concerned with his 2nd line.  So wouldn't be all that surprised if he trades either Subban or Ellis for proven scoring help for their 2nd line.

 

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