Generational.EP40 Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, mll said: They have MacKenzie Blackwood who is younger and posted better numbers than Demko this season. Can always take out pieces and offer others by mixing and matching. And can never have too many goalies which opens up trading them for other positional needs. The way I see it, 10+Juolevi+Madden and/or Lockwood would be the base. Adding another piece or 2 on top of that could determine if there’s a deal to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tomatoes11 Posted April 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2019 If we can get Hall we should, then we can draft lafreniere next draft with our new lucky charm. 1 1 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generational.EP40 Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Maniwaki Canuck said: Yes, it's a lot but it's an exponential scale to move into franchise player territory, not a linear one. It wouldn't be quite as much as the Lindros trade all those years ago, but they would definitely want one of our core 4 plus other significant pieces. There's no way there wouldn't be some real pain for us in that deal. Franchise yes, that’s what they all say about top picks but not generational as Matthews/McDavid were and certainly not Lindros who was 1 of 1 and no one even close to him. Real pain only if you have limited assets. Thankfully for the Canucks, they’ve built them up over the years and are in a position to maybe package them. And Juolevi is our only real top d prospect so that would hurt to lose him and be left empty handed on the back end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatoes11 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Generational.EP40 said: - Top 10 pick - Juolevi (5th overall) adds to their poor defence prospect pool - Madden/Lockwood are one of the best college prospects with certainly an NHL future - Demko is one of the best goalie prospects ready to become a starter / or a 1st next year which is never bad ...I’d say that’s a fair share of quality and quantity. I don’t think Lockwoods stick is too high, nor Juolevi. Well Juolevi has value but certainly not 5th overall 2016 type value. I think we would have to give them someone they really like plus our 10th, and I am not sure we have that piece. I am guessing they will only consider if we include one of Horvat, Boeser, ep, or Hughes. So I think we are out of luck. They might consider our 10th overall and next years 1st (2020) but that’s not very smart. Could end up much worse than Colorado having Ottawa’s 1st this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Butters Stoch Posted April 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2019 This is how the phone call will go 2 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomatoes11 Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 I could actually live with Boeser and our 10th for their 1st overall and a 3rd or a 4th. Depending on how much Boeser makes on his new contract. I still feel that we are at least 2 years away from really challenging for a cup and Hughes at an entry level contract when we have a chance at a cup vs Boeser at 7 million could be huge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Just now, Tomatoes11 said: I could actually live with Boeser and our 10th for their 1st overall and a 3rd or a 4th. Depending on how much Boeser makes on his new contract. I still feel that we are at least 2 years away from really challenging for a cup and Hughes at an entry level contract when we have a chance at a cup vs Boeser at 7 million could be huge. That’s likely the price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mll Posted April 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2019 13 minutes ago, Generational.EP40 said: Franchise yes, that’s what they all say about top picks but not generational as Matthews/McDavid were and certainly not Lindros who was 1 of 1 and no one even close to him. Real pain only if you have limited assets. Thankfully for the Canucks, they’ve built them up over the years and are in a position to maybe package them. And Juolevi is our only real top d prospect so that would hurt to lose him and be left empty handed on the back end. NJD are planning on packaging players/pick themselves to add more talent. It doesn't make sense for them to do it in reverse. 1st vs 10th. 2007 Patrick Kane - Keaton Ellerby 2008 Stamkos - Hodgson 2009 Tavares - Paajarvi 2010 Hall - McIlrath 2011 RNH - Brodin 2012 Yakupov - Koekkoek 2013 MacKinnon - Nichushkin 2014 Ekblad - Ritchie 2015 McDavid - Rantanen 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tomatoes11 said: I could actually live with Boeser and our 10th for their 1st overall and a 3rd or a 4th. Depending on how much Boeser makes on his new contract. I still feel that we are at least 2 years away from really challenging for a cup and Hughes at an entry level contract when we have a chance at a cup vs Boeser at 7 million could be huge. Boeser is not the top-6 C they have desperately been looking for though. That's one of their biggest need with a legit D1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Would honestly have to be something like: 10 oa 2020 1st horvat markstrom woo for 1 oa maybe take back Schneider so that they don’t have 10million on three goalies basically not worth it 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Stoch Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, mll said: Boeser is not the top-6 C they have desperately been looking for though. That's one of their biggest need with a legit D1. Would be hilarious if they flipped Hall for a legit #1 Dman, which they probably can, while the Oilers only got Larsson for Hall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generational.EP40 Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 27 minutes ago, Tomatoes11 said: I could actually live with Boeser and our 10th for their 1st overall and a 3rd or a 4th. Depending on how much Boeser makes on his new contract. I still feel that we are at least 2 years away from really challenging for a cup and Hughes at an entry level contract when we have a chance at a cup vs Boeser at 7 million could be huge. Never lol. Boeser will make in the $6m-$7.6m range. That’s nothing in today’s nhl and fair. Won’t effect our cap much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SabreFan1 Posted April 13, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2019 Nobody will pay what it would cost to get the first overall pick. I seem to remember years ago a coveted 1st overall player (who was already damaged goods after holding out a season) going for the price of Steve Duchesne, Ron Hextall, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Peter Forsberg, 2 first round picks and $15 million. The Flyers made the mistake of paying that kind of price for Lindros in 1992 which handed the Nordiques enough capital for them to go from last place to winning the Stanley Cup 3 years later as the Colorado Avalanche. The Flyers still haven't won a Cup since 1975. How badly do you all want Jack? 2 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Generational.EP40 said: They’re still very much in a rebuild. Wanting to take the next step just to entice Hall in staying doesn’t mean they are coming out of a rebuild like the Canucks are positioned to. There’s a difference there. The Canucks are not positioned to come out of a rebuild. We're still talking minimum this and next year top 10 picks before pushing to be a sure fire playoff team. People need to slow down, be patient. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runtzguy Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 Jesus Christ, if Benning is really thinking about acquiring the 1st overall because we are hosting it and Jack Hughes is Quinn Hughe's brother then we should fire Benning. It is this kind of sentiment towards players that made us draft Jake Virtanen in his draft year because he is a BC boy and can be like Cam Neely? Wtf? How does this logic make sense? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runtzguy Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, peaches5 said: The only Obvious players who are untouchables are Pettersson and Hughes. Horvat is 100% expendable if you're trading for a 1st overall centre and already have a number 1 two way centre in Pettersson. Markstrom made this team look way better than it actually was. Without Markstrom, this team was last in the NHL. If you give up Horvat + keep your first this year and get the first overall... The rebuild is looking pretty solid. LOL! Horvat expendable? How many times have you hit your head son? Please wear a helmet when walking down the street. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 1 hour ago, naslund.is.king said: Every team will make the phone call Even New Jersey? That might be a little awkward 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generational.EP40 Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share Posted April 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: The Canucks are not positioned to come out of a rebuild. We're still talking minimum this and next year top 10 picks before pushing to be a sure fire playoff team. People need to slow down, be patient. I thought people were saying without the freak injuries and a relatively healthy team we could have been a a playoff team. I don’t see why they don’t push for a spot next year. Especially with young guys only gaining confidence that will perform better. And who knows what FA brings us, especially if we’re able to get both Hughes that would surely up the team’s odds of making it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted April 13, 2019 Share Posted April 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Qwags said: Just doing his job. Would rather stick with 10th overall tbh. I'd rather see what it takes to move up 3-4 spots then for first unless we somehow pull off something ridiculous for it :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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