theo5789 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Let's say Byram falls to where Detroit picks this year. How many would consider trading Hughes and 10th for Zadina and the pick to bring in Byram? I imagine we would have to add a bit to complete the deal as well, unless Detroit has quickly regretted not taking Hughes. Byram replaces Hughes for us and Zadina adds a top end winger. We could obviously stay the course and have Hughes and draft a Caufield/Boldy/whoever, but I'm just curious what the opinion is here for this. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Quinn is too good imo. I am not doubting byram, but quinn has proved that he has the potential to be a star in this league. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Not sure Detroit does that. They chose Zadina over Hughes in the draft and both just got a cup of coffee in the NHL. For me personally, I wouldn't do this because I would rather have Hughes over Byram. I think Quinn is close to, if not already NHL ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 No way I'd do this. We might get a better player than zadina in thus years draft and who knows if byram will even be as good as Hughes is now. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Much rather stay the course. Right side is still a little thin so would definitely like Soderstrom at 10. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughMungus Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Not for Hughes For Julevi yes And a 3rd/4th for stingy GMs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Byram won't make it past CHI. I would trade the #10 for Zadina straight up, but that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, HughMungus said: Not for Hughes For Julevi yes And a 3rd/4th for stingy GMs Joulevi and 3rd/4th doesn't get the job done. The OPs proposal seems like a fair one, but I think each team's personal preferences nullify the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 39 minutes ago, HughMungus said: Not for Hughes For Julevi yes And a 3rd/4th for stingy GMs Good luck with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Blue Jay 22 said: Not sure Detroit does that. They chose Zadina over Hughes in the draft and both just got a cup of coffee in the NHL. For me personally, I wouldn't do this because I would rather have Hughes over Byram. I think Quinn is close to, if not already NHL ready. I personally also believe Detroit themselves wouldn't do it because I think Zadina and Byram will be of more value than Quinn and our #10 pick. Byram would add more size on top of the offense, but Hughes is the more dynamic skater which is important in today's game. Will Hughes' style last into the playoffs though? Byram is also a local boy and aside from that BC has produced many excellent dmen over the years. Quinn may be NHL ready, but Byram isn't far off. Maybe needs another season, but Quinn got an extra year as well of development before making the jump. Zadina can easily be a 1st line winger as well, which makes me less worried about who we lose at 10. So with all this said, I just don't see Detroit accepting it (unless we add more) despite the response so far where many seem to highly regard what Hughes would provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said: Byram won't make it past CHI. I would trade the #10 for Zadina straight up, but that's about it. Well that's why I mentioned if he was available at Detroit's pick. If Byram is a #3 pick, is it a surprise that many here view Hughes as the better player then? Zadina hasn't shown any regression for them to move him for the #10 pick (lower spot than Zadina's pick). The reason why I brought up this discussion is the assumption if Hughes has become more highly regarded though to make this deal potentially happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, sonoman said: Much rather stay the course. Right side is still a little thin so would definitely like Soderstrom at 10. Staying the course is the most likely result, but I'm a bit surprised that people don't think Byram and Zadina has more value than Hughes and #10 (being the lowest pick of the group). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, ReggieBush said: Quinn is too good imo. I am not doubting byram, but quinn has proved that he has the potential to be a star in this league. Quinn may have shown in his 5 games that his potential is shining through, but Byram might just have as much star power, especially considering he's ranked as high as #3 in this upcoming draft. Quinn is excellent, but this wouldn't be a discussion if he wasn't and if Byram wasn't also excellent as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, 73 Percent said: No way I'd do this. We might get a better player than zadina in thus years draft and who knows if byram will even be as good as Hughes is now. This is a lot of what ifs though. The same could be said the other way. Byram may be better overall than Hughes. If Hughes is marginally better or not then, Zadina may be better than whoever is at #10. Based on the what ifs, I'm not sure how such a certain answer could be made. At the end of the day, I know this swap would likely not happen (more so because I feel like Detroit wouldn't accept unless we gave more), but it's something that I personally wouldn't mind keeping an eye on to see how it plays out for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 ah yeah shiny new toys are always more exciting then the not quite as shiny new toys we have already seen in very limited games in the nhl grass is always greener on the other side of the fence well, to some anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 They trade Zadina for a guy they passed on and trade their pick for a lesser pick? Why not just keep Zadina and draft Byram themselves? Instead of I dunno, ripping themselves off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 42 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Staying the course is the most likely result, but I'm a bit surprised that people don't think Byram and Zadina has more value than Hughes and #10 (being the lowest pick of the group). I think you’d have to add for a conversation starter. Not sure what Detroit would want though. No guarantees that Byram is still available at 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, coastal.view said: ah yeah shiny new toys are always more exciting then the not quite as shiny new toys we have already seen in very limited games in the nhl grass is always greener on the other side of the fence well, to some anyway After all, we've had Hughes for almost a year now. Old and stale, the lustre's off. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 No need to trade assets, just wait it out at the draft........ https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2019/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I don't think, at this point anybody would rank Zadina ahead of Hughes. He did mediocre in the AHL. Hughes was considered the 2nd best prospect outside the nhl by espn and is ranked ahead of Zadina on all of the lists I have seen. So, while they took him last year, they would have to know that Hughes has more value at this point. I think that Byram might go 3rd and if he does, the 4th to 10th is a crap shoot. All the remaining US players and Cozens, Krebs, and Dach, along with Soderstrom, Newhook could all be the best player in this draft 5 years from now. I don't think the Canucks should do this. I would be more than happy with whomever the scouting staff thinks is the bpa. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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