RUPERTKBD Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 20 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: Looking at the Democratic field, it just looks so scattered, heading in no reasonable direction. The Warren's and Sanders are too far left, and their platforms are too aggressive. It makes me wonder, who is giving them their direction. Neither ask, why Biden is still getting support. I mean, I don't think he is the strongest candidate, but he is the most moderate, which is where, the Democrats can find most of the swing votes. IMO, that is so simple, I can not fathom, how Warren and Sanders can not see that, and adjust their platforms accordingly. The reason, it mystifies me so much, is that I have done enough collective bargaining to know that you do not get everything you ask for all at once, nor will you get the support you need if you do. There is always Hawks and Moderates. The Democrats, by their very nature should know that. It seems to me, that a much more pragmatic approach would be one where, the Dems go after the drug companies, and hospitals to lower their prices substantially, or increase their taxes, and increase the Billionaire tax (as stated), then use the moneys to fund better programs. I think that would be aggressive enough, and do some really positive things for the people of the good ole US of A. I personally think, that trying to get Universal Health Care, all in one bite, is a way too aggressive, but a stated goal of getting there over time, would be palatable to moderates on the left and right. Most people in the middle are fed up with Trump. but if they are put in a position of picking between the economy and Trump or the Dems far left agenda. Those moderates will pick Trump and hold their nose. The other thing I am a little uneasy with is the current back stabbing the Democratic candidates are doing to each other in public......no need to make it personal, but Trump has desensitized the world, and I expect better. They are turning this into an ego, issue, instead of a beat Trump issue. To me, they need to show they are the party of reason and solidarity. To me, a year out from the election, I would role out a entire candidate slate...aka whole holds what position, etc. and respond like Nancy does, every time Trump does something stupid, every time he says something stupid. Just say....."he said that? Did he?. Really?. Be the voice of reason and calm, and the people will follow (IMO) It just doesn't appear the Democrats are getting that...…….It is hard to believe they could loose the election...but they could, out of their own stupidity Many of us have made that same statement. Just last night, Anthony Scaramucci said much the same on Cuomo Primetime. Bill Maher held a similar panel discussion on Real Time. It's an issue that seems to be obvious to everyone, except the idealists within the Democratic party. Personally, I see Mayor Pete and Amy Klobuchar as the best candidates, although it's possible that Bloomberg overtakes them as the nomination process moves along. But these candidates, as well as all of the others, are up against a problem: How can you be far enough left to win the nomination, yet close enough to the center, to win a general election against Donald Trump? If Warren or Sanders wins, the GOP will start pounding the "Socialist" drum and it doesn't matter that even Donald Trump is engaging in Socialism by bailing out the farmers that his trade war screwed over, Americans will run screaming as if it means bread lines and Gulags if the Dems win. Medicare for All is a wonderful idea, but it's pie in the sky and many Americans are more than happy with their current medical coverage. There's no reason to force them to change. In fact, people still point to Obama's "You can keep your doctor" quote as the biggest lie of his 8 year tenure. What Dems should be talking about instead, is expanded Medicaid, common sense approaches to combating Climate Change, beginning with reaffirming the commitment to the Paris Accord. They should be talking about Education and infrastructure....traditional Democratic polices, but ones that independents and moderate Republicans can get behind. In the final analysis, there should only be one goal for the Democrats in 2020 and that's unseating Donald Trump. They can start working on all of the fundamental changes, once they take the Presidency back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said: Many of us have made that same statement. Just last night, Anthony Scaramucci said much the same on Cuomo Primetime. Bill Maher held a similar panel discussion on Real Time. It's an issue that seems to be obvious to everyone, except the idealists within the Democratic party. Personally, I see Mayor Pete and Amy Klobuchar as the best candidates, although it's possible that Bloomberg overtakes them as the nomination process moves along. But these candidates, as well as all of the others, are up against a problem: How can you be far enough left to win the nomination, yet close enough to the center, to win a general election against Donald Trump? If Warren or Sanders wins, the GOP will start pounding the "Socialist" drum and it doesn't matter that even Donald Trump is engaging in Socialism by bailing out the farmers that his trade war screwed over, Americans will run screaming as if it means bread lines and Gulags if the Dems win. Medicare for All is a wonderful idea, but it's pie in the sky and many Americans are more than happy with their current medical coverage. There's no reason to force them to change. In fact, people still point to Obama's "You can keep your doctor" quote as the biggest lie of his 8 year tenure. What Dems should be talking about instead, is expanded Medicaid, common sense approaches to combating Climate Change, beginning with reaffirming the commitment to the Paris Accord. They should be talking about Education and infrastructure....traditional Democratic polices, but ones that independents and moderate Republicans can get behind. In the final analysis, there should only be one goal for the Democrats in 2020 and that's unseating Donald Trump. They can start working on all of the fundamental changes, once they take the Presidency back. Yes, it seems Democrats are just as blind as Republicans It is why Bloomberg is entering the race Could be just to have a voice, and bring it back to the center a little Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Joe Biden: "We have to keep punching away at the problem of violence towards women"... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 12 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said: Joe Biden: "We have to keep punching away at the problem of violence towards women"... Haha was that the highlight of the debate ? Just saw the clip now.. even the audience laughs at his gaffe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Chicken. said: Haha was that the highlight of the debate ? Just saw the clip now.. even the audience laughs at his gaffe Booker asking Bernie if he was high was pretty good too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Booker asking Bernie if he was high was pretty good too.... Hmm.. looks like he was calling out Biden for being high too when he said he wouldn't legalize marijuana this week lol excuse the tweet sources.. is it true that Andrew Yang didn't get asked question until like 32 minutes in ? talk about suppressing the yanggang… my favorite candidate to listen to 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chicken. said: Hmm.. looks like he was calling out Biden for being high too when he said he wouldn't legalize marijuana this week lol excuse the tweet sources.. is it true that Andrew Yang didn't get asked question until like 32 minutes in ? talk about suppressing the yanggang… my favorite candidate to listen to I didn't watch the entire thing, but I heard that was the case. From what I read, his biggest soundbite of the debate was when he defended Tom Steyer for being rich. The gist was, we shouldn't criticize TS for "buying" his way into the nomination process, when he's using his money to combat Climate Change as well. Steyer seemed genuinely shocked that anyone would defend him.... Edited November 21, 2019 by RUPERTKBD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canorth Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 17 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said: Joe Biden: "We have to keep punching away at the problem of violence towards women"... Definitely earned a cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) Billionaire media mogul Michael Bloomberg, the former mayor of America’s largest city, jumped into the race for the Democratic U.S. presidential nomination on Sunday as a moderate with deep pockets unabashedly aiming to beat fellow New Yorker Donald Trump in the November 2020 election. Mr. Bloomberg’s belated entry into the race - just three months before the first of the state-by-state party nominating contests - reflects his skepticism that any of the other 17 Democratic candidates can unseat the Republican president. “I’m running for president to defeat Donald Trump and rebuild America,” Mr. Bloomberg, a 77-year-old former Republican, said in a statement launching his campaign. “We cannot afford four more years of President Trump’s reckless and unethical actions,” he said. The move represents an about-face for Mr. Bloomberg, who had said in March he would not run for president. He will compete with former Vice President Joe Biden and Mayor Pete Buttigieg of South Bend, Indiana, to become the moderate alternative to liberal U.S. Senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. Mr. Bloomberg, founder and CEO of prominent media company Bloomberg LP and a leading philanthropist, has a financial advantage over his Democratic rivals. It already is on display as he has spent at least US$31 million in television ads that will run in states across the country over the next two weeks, a campaign spokesman said. He has won allies in the party with his advocacy and philanthropy on climate change and in fighting gun violence, pouring millions of dollars into groups pushing for more restrictive gun laws. Mr. Bloomberg will face significant disadvantages because of his late start, which means he will be playing catch-up with rivals who have been putting together campaign staffs for months. Ranked by Forbes as the eighth-richest American with an estimated worth of US$53.4 billion, Mr. Bloomberg joins activist and former hedge fund investor Tom Steyer as the second billionaire to enter the Democratic race and will have the advantage of being able to self-finance his campaign and pour millions of dollars into advertising and hiring staff. He announced earlier in November a US$100 million online ad campaign targeting Mr. Trump in four battleground states. We do not believe that billionaires have the right to buy elections,” Mr. Sanders said in a Twitter post on Sunday. “That is why multi-billionaires like Michael Bloomberg are not going to get very far in this election.” ’I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES’ While some Democratic candidates had warned against making the election all about Mr. Trump, Mr. Bloomberg kept the focus squarely on the president, with whom he has been well acquainted for decades. Mr. Trump was a notable New York real estate developer during Mr. Bloomberg’s three terms as mayor from 2002 to 2013. “I know what it takes to beat Trump, because I already have. And I will do it again,” Mr. Bloomberg said, stressing his success as a self-made businessman who came from humble roots. Mr. Bloomberg called himself a “doer and a problem solver - not a talker.” Mr. Bloomberg, who filed paperwork on Thursday with the U.S. Federal Election Commission to run for president, previously had filed paperwork to be eligible for the Democratic primaries in Alabama and four other states with early deadlines for ballot qualification. To counter his late campaign start, he plans to pursue the unorthodox strategy of skipping the four states with early nominating contests in February, beginning on Feb. 3 in Iowa, and focus primarily on states that hold primaries and caucuses starting on so-called Super Tuesday on March 3. Mr. Bloomberg already has come under fire from liberal critics who say he would be the wrong choice for a Democratic Party turning against corporate money in politics and dedicated to ending income inequality in America. He apologized this month for New York’s “stop and frisk” policy that allowed police to stop and search people on the street, which was decried by critics as racist for overwhelmingly targeting black men. Black voters are a critical Democratic voting bloc. Mr. Bloomberg also has been mocked by some critics for attempting to ban sodas sold in cups larger than 16 ounces (473 milliliters) in an effort to reduce sugar consumption at a time of high rates of obesity in the United States. The proposal was struck down by New York courts. Mr. Bloomberg will face questions about his decision to run for New York mayor in 2001 as a Republican. He switched to independent before a run for a third term in 2009. In 2018, while weighing whether to run for president, he switched his party registration again and became a Democrat. He will be the second-oldest candidate among the Democrats in the race, as the party debates whether it is time for a new generation of leadership. Mr. Sanders, who took time off from the campaign trail after a heart attack in October, is the oldest at 78, followed by Mr. Biden (76) and Ms. Warren (70). Trump is 73. Bloomberg News said on Sunday it will not investigate its founder, continuing a policy of limiting coverage of him. Edited November 26, 2019 by DonLever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lancaster Posted November 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2019 Interesting world.... Michael Bloomberg, old rich white billionaire with checkered past, originally Republican but now Democrat is going to be running to challenge Donald Trump, old rich white billionaire with checkered past, originally Democrat but now Republican. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 11/21/2019 at 10:15 AM, Chicken. said: Hmm.. looks like he was calling out Biden for being high too when he said he wouldn't legalize marijuana this week lol excuse the tweet sources.. is it true that Andrew Yang didn't get asked question until like 32 minutes in ? talk about suppressing the yanggang… my favorite candidate to listen to While Fox News is a deplorable news outlet, MSNBC is no better and proves just how the media is full of $&!#. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said: While Fox News is a deplorable news outlet, MSNBC is no better and proves just how the media is full of $&!#. yeah, you're right on that Phil. There isn't much redeeming about what passes for media these days. You really have to look for stories with actual factual references or any kind of depth of analysis. Its out there with a few individuals but not many. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: yeah, you're right on that Phil. There isn't much redeeming about what passes for media these days. You really have to look for stories with actual factual references or any kind of depth of analysis. Its out there with a few individuals but not many. FAIR is a great site. https://fair.org/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph. Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 30 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: FAIR is a great site. https://fair.org/ Cool. Favourited. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Lancaster said: Interesting world.... Michael Bloomberg, old rich white billionaire with checkered past, originally Republican but now Democrat is going to be running to challenge Donald Trump, old rich white billionaire with checkered past, originally Democrat but now Republican. How come all the leading contenders are so old? Bernie Sanders 78 Michael Bloomberg 77 Joe Biden 77 Elizabeth Warren 70 And Trump is relatively young compared to some of them. Do you realize if Sanders, Biden, or Bloomberg win 2nd terms, those guys will be in their mid 80's. How the heck can Septuagenarians and Octogenarians relate to voters in late teens, 20's, 30's? These elderly people belong in nursing homes. Its time for the younger generation to take over. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 30 minutes ago, DonLever said: How the heck can Septuagenarians and Octogenarians relate to voters in late teens, 20's, 30's? These elderly people belong in nursing homes. Its time for the younger generation to take over. Obama was in his 40's when he became president. He was a mediocre president. He could have been better had he not spent his first 6 years trying to kiss the opposing party's rumps in an effort to gain a consensus that would, and never did, come. Age has little to do with ability when it comes to the presidency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitecarnage Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) Edited December 3, 2019 by infinitecarnage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/clinton-still-disappointed-sanders-held-off-on-endorsing-her-in-2016/ar-BBXLU2c?ocid=ientp As much as I hate Dulltard Trump, I hate Shillary Clinton just as much. The gall of this assclown to state that Sanders hurt her feelings by not endorsing her, after the DNC (under her guidance, which her gutless ass would never admit) screwed him over. Do the world a favor, Hillary. Grab Trump and jump off the highest cliff you can find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 I am saddened, that Kamala was not able to advance her presidential bid, like she did her political career. Where is Willie when you need him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canorth Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, CBH1926 said: I am saddened, that Kamala was not able to advance her presidential bid, like she did her political career. Where is Willie when you need him? She’s young. She’ll bounce back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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