CBH1926 Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 Political "dirt" has no expiration date. If stories of Fred Trump's KKK arrest in 1927 are somehow relevant, or Biden bussing stance in 1970s. Surely we can apply the same principle to good ol' Bernard. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 On 2/2/2020 at 7:37 PM, bishopshodan said: PolitiFact? I thought you had issues with them... I have issues with everyone! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Rob_Zepp said: I have issues with everyone! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 where is abe lincoln when you need him, and pearson in canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) Just for fun; Edited February 4, 2020 by Chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curmudgeon Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 37 minutes ago, Chicken. said: Just for fun; So much oil revenue and they couldn't manage to run a functional country. And they don't even have the lIberals to blame for their own mismanagment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockout Casualty Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) On 2/2/2020 at 9:11 AM, CBH1926 said: He sure did lot of talking back in the day. “She fantasizes being raped by 3 men”: Bernie Sanders’s bizarre 1972 essay on gender https://www.vox.com/2015/5/28/8682503/bernie-sanders-rape-fantasy POLITICS JULY 6, 2015 “You Might Very Well Be the Cause of Cancer”: Read Bernie Sanders’ 1970s-Era Essays https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/07/bernie-sanders-vermont-freeman-sexual-freedom-fluoride/ I'm curious, what is the issue with these essays? As I read them, the first juxtaposes the taboo sexual thoughts of a man and a woman that are a church-going, god-fearing, and presumably wholesome couple. Is there something you inferred from it that I don't see? As for the second, the cancer doesn't seem to be the main thesis of his, but he was wrong on that point. That said, the larger point he was making is still relevant today. And for added context, we're talking about a time when Freud was still relevant and half the people questioned the cigarette and cancer link. Wrong, but hardly misguided. 18 hours ago, CBH1926 said: Political "dirt" has no expiration date. If stories of Fred Trump's KKK arrest in 1927 are somehow relevant, or Biden bussing stance in 1970s. Surely we can apply the same principle to good ol' Bernard. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander. One thing Sanders has on anyone, is his decades of serving his constituents with integrity. This is how the US can fix what I see as the root problem - self-serving, spineless representatives on all sides of the isle. Not by letting another establishment politician in who will just kick the proverbial can down the road, while the world watches the US' slow circling of the drain. Or I suppose one could stay home on election day, let Trump win again, and watch it circle the drain much quicker. 15 flushes quicker, to be exact. Whatever comes out the other end can't possibly be as bad. Right? Edited February 4, 2020 by Lockout Casualty 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Lockout Casualty said: I'm curious, what is the issue with these essays? As I read them, the first juxtaposes the taboo sexual thoughts of a man and a woman that are a church-going, god-fearing, and presumably wholesome couple. Is there something you inferred from it that I don't see? As for the second, the cancer doesn't seem to be the main thesis of his, but he was wrong on that point. That said, the larger point he was making is still relevant today. And for added context, we're talking about a time when Freud was still relevant and half the people questioned the cigarette and cancer link. Wrong, but hardly misguided. One thing Sanders has on anyone, is his decades of serving his constituents with integrity. This is how the US can fix what I see as the root problem - self-serving, spineless representatives on all sides of the isle. Not by letting another establishment politician in who will just kick the proverbial can down the road, while the world watches the US' slow circling of the drain. Or I suppose one could stay home on election day, let Trump win again, and watch it circle the drain much quicker. 15 flushes quicker, to be exact. Whatever comes out the other end can't possibly be as bad. Right? I am not going to waste time on the two articles, i will let Sanders campaign speak for it. Bernie Sanders distances himself from 'dumb' 1972 essay on rape https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2015/05/28/politics/bernie-sanders-rape-essay-1972/index.html Sanders is political demagogue, that has talked "bigly" all his life but has little to show for. Career politician that belongs to dreadful 1% in America. From his days at marxist kibbutz to his life long love affair with communist nations. Campaining for Socialist Workers Party in the U.S, praising Soviets, Cubans etc. The bottom line, he praised China for lifting millions out of poverty, too bad it was capitalism that did that. Western europe today is not the same place as it was in the 70s, social programs have been drastically reduced. Forcing people on medicaid or rent control is something that free market doesn't do plus I am not even getting into how much all free stuff would cost and who would pay for it. BS has talked about how bad things are since the 60s, while his country is still global power number 1. Just another guy full of utopian ideas that will never come to a fruition, vote for him in the primaries is vote for Trump. Edited February 4, 2020 by CBH1926 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Now that we've established that Bernie is an evil communist, who will turn the US into Venezuela and is worse than Trump, I'd like to offer some criticism for the nomination process... ....it isn't just the fact that the DNC has screwed up Iowa, it's the fact that we even go through this dopey procedure in the first place. How about we just skip this drawn out, convoluted process and choose the leader in a single event. As it sits right now, the Dems have lost good candidates like Harris, Booker and Castro simply because their campaigns ran out of money. IMO, that's a poor way to choose a leader. Leave everyone on the ballot and then do as many votes as you need to to whittle it down to one. For a party that talks so much about "income inequality", they sure don't have an issue with it when it comes to choosing a nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: Now that we've established that Bernie is an evil communist, who will turn the US into Venezuela and is worse than Trump, I'd like to offer some criticism for the nomination process... ....it isn't just the fact that the DNC has screwed up Iowa, it's the fact that we even go through this dopey procedure in the first place. How about we just skip this drawn out, convoluted process and choose the leader in a single event. As it sits right now, the Dems have lost good candidates like Harris, Booker and Castro simply because their campaigns ran out of money. IMO, that's a poor way to choose a leader. Leave everyone on the ballot and then do as many votes as you need to to whittle it down to one. For a party that talks so much about "income inequality", they sure don't have an issue with it when it comes to choosing a nominee. It's a rigged game. We saw this in 2016 most recently. And it may be happening here again too. But it looks terrible either way and Dotard is going to take full advantage of it. Free ammunition for the orange fat man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 I think we might be making too much of this....sure it's embarrassing, but it's one state and we still have 10 months to go before the general election. Fat Donny will tweet something snarky that his adoring masses think is exceedingly clever, but then he'll do something abysmally stupid and everyone will move on from this unfortunate gaffe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 1 hour ago, RUPERTKBD said: ....it isn't just the fact that the DNC has screwed up Iowa, it's the fact that we even go through this dopey procedure in the first place. We??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 23 hours ago, Rob_Zepp said: I have issues with everyone! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 2 hours ago, CBH1926 said: I am not going to waste time on the two articles, i will let Sanders campaign speak for it. Bernie Sanders distances himself from 'dumb' 1972 essay on rape https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2015/05/28/politics/bernie-sanders-rape-essay-1972/index.html Sanders is political demagogue, that has talked "bigly" all his life but has little to show for. Career politician that belongs to dreadful 1% in America. From his days at marxist kibbutz to his life long love affair with communist nations. Campaining for Socialist Workers Party in the U.S, praising Soviets, Cubans etc. The bottom line, he praised China for lifting millions out of poverty, too bad it was capitalism that did that. Western europe today is not the same place as it was in the 70s, social programs have been drastically reduced. Forcing people on medicaid or rent control is something that free market doesn't do plus I am not even getting into how much all free stuff would cost and who would pay for it. BS has talked about how bad things are since the 60s, while his country is still global power number 1. Just another guy full of utopian ideas that will never come to a fruition, vote for him in the primaries is vote for Trump. hyperbole aside, Bernie does have the right ideas on some areas, US prison reform is a good example. Unless you think jailing minorities for profit is a good idea "because capitalism". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 8 hours ago, Lockout Casualty said: One thing Sanders has on anyone, is his decades of serving his constituents with integrity. if you actually listen to millennial voters, this is what the love about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 9 hours ago, Chicken. said: Just for fun; thats stupid. There was nothing progressive about Venezuela's government. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthMelvin Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 4/25/2019 at 9:13 AM, Whorvat said: Trump is a legitimate candidate, he is the sitting POTUS.. On 4/25/2019 at 9:18 AM, PhillipBlunt said: Every president has had two terms? What do you mean by this Blunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Adoring al the "Bernie is a socialist" talk right now From a group who has seen literally hundreds of billions in socialist aid go to farmers, corporations and the wealthy. I want Bernie to win, I want the pendulum to swing wildly in the other direction in America. After the swinging has stopped it will land somewhere closer to centre again as it should. But man oh man are people falling all over themselves to make Sanders out to be some sort of freaking commie loving fascist admiring thot as though the guy currently in power ISN'T some sort of Russian asset himself 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, DarthMelvin said: What do you mean by this Blunt? You're asking me about a comment made in April of last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Chicken. said: Just for fun; Let's ignore: Sanctions. US meddling in their political system, backing opposition groups. Collapse of oil prices. Oil profits provide a significant portion of their economy. Corruption. Something that is prevalent in the Americas. Something some posters here complain about in our government. In the US government. Nope. It's all socialism that is to blame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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