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47 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

hyperbole aside, Bernie does have the right ideas on some areas, US prison reform is a good example. Unless you think jailing minorities for profit is a good idea "because capitalism". 

There are some good ideas in his platform, implementation of those ideas is a different story.

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25 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Adoring al the "Bernie is a socialist" talk right now

It's pretty ridiculous.

25 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

From a group who has seen literally hundreds of billions in socialist aid go to farmers, corporations and the wealthy.

Not to mention the nearly $649,000,000,000 in military spending that is conveniently ignored. Somehow that's accepted, but the idea of helping people with medical and education, which would only make things better is somehow communist?

25 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

I want Bernie to win, I want the pendulum to swing wildly in the other direction in America.  After the swinging has stopped it will land somewhere closer to centre again as it should.

Same. The US has had it's swing to the right, under a megalomaniac bent on using the office to enrich himself. Time for a shift.  

25 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

But man oh man are people falling all over themselves to make Sanders out to be some sort of freaking commie loving fascist admiring thot as though the guy currently in power ISN'T some sort of Russian asset himself

Exactly. And how CNN has gone after him lately is pathetic. They are seemingly aping that idiot Clinton's warped opinion. So many people in the US are so gullible and easily distracted.

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Some might feel that i was hard on the Beaver.....i mean Bernie I am offering my endorsement of BS as the president of U.S bank. That way he can pay of my mortgage with them as well as credit card debt. If he pays me my college debt retroactively, I will get feel the Bern tatoo on my ass.

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15 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

There are some good ideas in his platform, implementation of those ideas is a different story.

exactly, which is why people don't need to bring up ideas of socialism and communism. We're talking about things on a policy level here, not a radical shift in how the US is run. 

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10 hours ago, Chicken. said:

Just for fun;

 

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Ya sure, let's talk about "socialism"

 

But ignore that capitalism has left Americans as the G20 nation with the most

 

Childhood poverty

Childhood obesity

Lowest levels of healthcare

Highest levels of illiteracy

Largest growing homeless population

Highest suicide rates

Highest rate of bankruptcies

 

And completely ignore the fact that like almost every other nation America intruded on; Venezuela was NOT perfect but was at least stable prior to America sticking its nose in it.  But yes, Bernie Sanders...socialism....completely ignoring that Venezuela has not been a socialist democracy since the mid 2000s and is instead now run in a dictatorial style of governance.

 

it's like, just posting memes as "fact" completely allows the poster to walk away without being questioned about the glaring ignorance and inconsistent truth of said memes

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10 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

It's pretty ridiculous.

Not to mention the nearly $649,000,000,000 in military spending that is conveniently ignored. Somehow that's accepted, but the idea of helping people with medical and education, which would only make things better is somehow communist?

Same. The US has had it's swing to the right, under a megalomaniac bent on using the office to enrich himself. Time for a shift.  

Exactly. And how CNN has gone after him lately is pathetic. They are seemingly aping that idiot Clinton's warped opinion. So many people in the US are so gullible and easily distracted.

I have my history of statements against the DNC.  They're no better than the GOP.  The last nomination run more than highlighted that.  The people wanted X, the DNC decided no

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12 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

I have my history of statements against the DNC.  They're no better than the GOP.  The last nomination run more than highlighted that.  The people wanted X, the DNC decided no

They're really nothing more than a shadowy reflection of the GOP. How the DNC are cowtowing to that useless crone Hillary is pathetic. They're desperately trying any angle to ensure Bernie doesn't make it, seemingly against the will of their voting populace.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

They're really nothing more than a shadowy reflection of the GOP. How the DNC are cowtowing to that useless crone Hillary is pathetic. They're desperately trying any angle to ensure Bernie doesn't make it, seemingly against the will of their voting populace.

 

 

Open it up

Let people vote

Put it on paper

 

The constant "issues" and locking convention halls during voting or disallowing voters in is crazy, removing names off of ballots and more.  The biggest fallacy in the west is that America is an actual democracy where the people have the power.

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5 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said:

They're really nothing more than a shadowy reflection of the GOP. How the DNC are cowtowing to that useless crone Hillary is pathetic. They're desperately trying any angle to ensure Bernie doesn't make it, seemingly against the will of their voting populace.

 

 

Bernie's the only one that can get the vast majority of U35 voters. That group is now bigger than the boomers. Bernie with the correct running mate is the dem's best shot imo

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17 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Ya sure, let's talk about "socialism"

 

But ignore that capitalism has left Americans as the G20 nation with the most

 

Childhood poverty

Childhood obesity

Lowest levels of healthcare

Highest levels of illiteracy

Largest growing homeless population

Highest suicide rates

Highest rate of bankruptcies

 

And completely ignore the fact that like almost every other nation America intruded on; Venezuela was NOT perfect but was at least stable prior to America sticking its nose in it.  But yes, Bernie Sanders...socialism....completely ignoring that Venezuela has not been a socialist democracy since the mid 2000s and is instead now run in a dictatorial style of governance.

 

it's like, just posting memes as "fact" completely allows the poster to walk away without being questioned about the glaring ignorance and inconsistent truth of said memes

I guess instead of letting Sanders turn the US into Venezuela, some prefer Trump and the GOP turn it into Somalia instead. I don't think they have gun regulations. Or universal healthcare. Or gay marriage.

 

Not to mention the whole reason the US took such a commanding lead had a lot to do with every other country being decimated by WWII. The US won by default, but its people think they're the greatest nation on earth, in spite of all evidence to the contrary. 

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1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

Open it up

Let people vote

Put it on paper

Exactly. Practice what is preached.

1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

The constant "issues" and locking convention halls during voting or disallowing voters in is crazy, removing names off of ballots and more.  The biggest fallacy in the west is that America is an actual democracy where the people have the power.

The US wants people to believe it, hence the rampant, steady jingoism prevalent in that country. It's an empire, that is going into decline, bent on world domination, addicted to debt and hypocrisy. There are a lot of great people living there, and some beautiful places to visit. It's just that the government is a wolf in sheep's clothing. A despotic regime dressed up like a democracy designed to dupe it's own people.

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7 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

Bernie's the only one that can get the vast majority of U35 voters. That group is now bigger than the boomers. Bernie with the correct running mate is the dem's best shot imo

Without a doubt. They believe in him because he's always been consistent, always for the people. Warren's fake homely projections cover up the fact that she's just another shill for the DNC, who actually was a Republican up until she was 47.

 

His ideal running mate is Tulsi Gabbard.

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1 minute ago, Lockout Casualty said:

I guess instead of letting Sanders turn the US into Venezuela, some prefer Trump and the GOP turn it into Somalia instead. I don't think they have gun regulations. Or universal healthcare. Or gay marriage.

 

Not to mention the whole reason the US took such a commanding lead had a lot to do with every other country being decimated by WWII. The US won by default, but its people think they're the greatest nation on earth, in spite of all evidence to the contrary. 

This is one of the statements Americans make that always irks me....(along with calling their President "The leader of the free world")

 

"The greatest country on earth" does not put refugee children in cages as a deterrent, it does not experience a mass shooting at an average of once per day, it does not run a "for profit" prison system (or healthcare system, for that matter) and it certainly doesn't believe that it's head of state is above the law....

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1 minute ago, PhillipBlunt said:

Without a doubt. They believe in him because he's always been consistent, always for the people. Warren's fake homely projections cover up the fact that she's just another shill for the DNC, who actually was a Republican up until she was 47.

thats it Phil, she's a terrible choice, in some ways worse than Clinton. 

 

Bernie's the only one with true momentum potential. Biden is the so-called "safe" choice that older democrats want to feel safe with and beat Trump, but you can't have both. Pick one. 

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10 minutes ago, Lockout Casualty said:

Not to mention the whole reason the US took such a commanding lead had a lot to do with every other country being decimated by WWII. The US won by default, but its people think they're the greatest nation on earth, in spite of all evidence to the contrary. 

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What has Sanders done in his long political career to actually help people of this country, from legislative point of view? What positive change he brought on large scale? Lip service, oposing this and that, protesting, filibustering etc. doesn't count.

Couldn't even get medicaid for all passed in Vermont. 

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4 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

What has Sanders done in his long political career to actually help people of this country, from legislative point of view? What positive change he brought on large scale? Lip service, oposing this and that, protesting, filibustering etc. doesn't count. 

Are...you serious?

 

Genuinely curious.  His voting record on major issues is out there.  His movements and campaigning are public knowledge.  People state he has been on the right side of history more often than not.  It might be worth looking in to it yourself instead of just asking people to tell you.

 

For the record though, many people refuse to look once their minds are made up.  Your statements kind of suggest not much will change your stance so I have opted to add some link regarding his position and voting history

 

https://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/27110/bernie-sanders/?p=1

 

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/bernard_sanders/400357

 

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/S000033-bernard-sanders/compare-votes/115

 

https://www.congress.gov/member/bernard-sanders/S000033?q={"bill-status":"law"}&searchResultViewType=expanded&KWICView=false

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