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46 minutes ago, DonLever said:

Sanders is registered as an Independent.  The Democratic Party support because him because his political views aligned with a some in the Democratic Party - mainly the progressive wing.

Yep.  But as far as I know, the only time he is a Dem is when he runs for Prez.  That can't endear him all that much with the Party.  Didnt they try sometime to force him into the party, even if he didnt get the nomination?  That sounds a little familiar, but I'm not 100% sure what the deal was.

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Just now, Ronaldoescobar said:

When Biden is charged by the DoJ and Barr will he have to drop out?

 

Should be coming shortly with all the info Rudy has. 

Innocent until proven guilty.. :)

 

Not to worry polling suggest Dems have it in the bag no matter who they pick..

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Among all registered voters, Democratic candidates lead President Trump in general election matchups by between 4 and 9 percentage points, with Bloomberg claiming the biggest numerical lead against Trump:

  • Bloomberg tops Trump 51 - 42 percent;
  • Sanders defeats Trump 51 - 43 percent;
  • Biden beats Trump 50 - 43 percent;
  • Klobuchar defeats Trump 49 - 43 percent;
  • Warren wins narrowly over Trump 48 - 44 percent;
  • Buttigieg is also slightly ahead of Trump 47 - 43 percent.

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3655 

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Here's a little article for those that are / were making the claim that the American healthcare system is superior to the one in Canada:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/county-in-kansas-is-jailing-people-over-unpaid-medical-debt/ar-BBZQ9Fz?li=AAggFp4
 

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There is at least one issue a divided electorate can come together on this election year: A recent poll finds 90% of those surveyed agreed on the importance of making health care more affordable.

Millions of Americans remain uninsured.

As Meg Oliver reports in partnership with ProPublica, some people are even going to jail because they're squeezed by a system that's putting new demands on overburdened incomes.

Tres and Heather Biggs' son Lane was diagnosed with leukemia when he was five years old. At the same time, Heather suffered seizures from Lyme disease.  

"We had so many — multiple health issues in our family at the same time, it put us in a bracket that made insurance unattainable," Heather Biggs said. "It would have made no sense. We would have had to have not eaten, not had a home."

Tres Biggs was working two jobs but they fell behind on their medical bills, then the unthinkable happened.

 "You wouldn't think you'd go to jail over medical bills," Tres Biggs said.  

Tres Biggs went to jail for failing to appear in court for unpaid medical bills. He described it as "scary." 

"I was scared to death," Tres Biggs said. "I'm a country kid  — I had to strip down, get hosed and put a jumpsuit on." 

Bail was $500. He said they had "maybe $50 to $100" at the time. 

In rural Coffeyville, Kansas, where the poverty rate is twice the national average, attorneys like Michael Hassenplug have built successful law practices representing medical providers to collect debt owed by their neighbors. 

"I'm just doing my job," Hassenplug said. "They want the money collected, and I'm trying to do my job as best I can by following the law." 

That law was put in place at Hassenplug's own recommendation to the local judge. The attorney uses that law by asking the court to direct people with unpaid medical bills to appear in court every three months and state they are too poor to pay in what is called a "debtors exam."

If two hearings are missed, the judge issues an arrest warrant for contempt of court. Bail is set at $500.

Hassenplug said he gets "paid on what's collected." If the bail money is applied to the judgment, then he gets a portion of that, he said. 

"We're sending them to jail for contempt of court for failure to appear," Hassenplug said. 

In most courts, bail money is returned when defendants appear in court. But in almost every case in Coffeyville, that money goes to pay attorneys like Hassenplug and the medical debt his clients are owed.

"This raises serious constitutional concerns," said Nusrat Choudhury, the deputy director of the ACLU. "What's happening here is a jailhouse shake-down for cash that is the criminalization of private debt."

CBS News went to court on debt collection day. They wouldn't allow our cameras in, but we watched more than 60 people swear they didn't have enough money to pay, and only one of them had an attorney representing them. 

Michael Hassenplug continues to operate.

 

I think it's fairly obvious that the Biggs would not be in their current situation if they lived in Canada.

 

What's ironic, is that they live in Trump country. The same guy who's currently in court to overturn Obamacare and has been trying to deny pre-existing conditions since he took office.

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42 minutes ago, Chicken. said:

Innocent until proven guilty.. :)

 

Not to worry polling suggest Dems have it in the bag no matter who they pick..

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=3655 

Going to have to call fake news on that poll. Obviously the hyper liberal fascist socialist communist MSM has gotten a hold of it. I would move a minimum of 25 percentage points from each of the dem candidates over to Trumps side for accurate numbers. In the case of Klobuchar, Buttigieg and Bloomberg  even up to 50 percentage points. 

 

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1 minute ago, Ronaldoescobar said:

Going to have to call fake news on that poll. Obviously the hyper liberal fascist socialist communist MSM has gotten a hold of it. I would move a minimum of 25 percentage points from each of the dem candidates over to Trumps side for accurate numbers. In the case of Klobuchar, Buttigieg and Bloomberg  even up to 50 percentage points. 

 

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15 minutes ago, Ronaldoescobar said:

Going to have to call fake news on that poll. Obviously the hyper liberal fascist socialist communist MSM has gotten a hold of it. I would move a minimum of 25 percentage points from each of the dem candidates over to Trumps side for accurate numbers. In the case of Klobuchar, Buttigieg and Bloomberg  even up to 50 percentage points. 

 

Wasn't Hillary saying the same thing? More money in your pocket is a wonderful thing.

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On 2/7/2020 at 11:36 PM, Lockout Casualty said:

I think what we're seeing is Sanders becoming a cultural icon to the young, left-leaning generation. It's ironic, him being as old as he is, but at least it's someone with a long history of being principled, fighting for the right things, and willing to fight for them and their future. And like I said in another post to you, he's practically single-handedly shifting the Overton window to the left, making socialist policies more palatable to the  American people. Even if he doesn't win, I think he'll have done more for America than any Democratic president has going back 40 years.

 

You're right, Sanders is gonna be tarred and feathered as a commie by the right, but that's why you as Americans need to be smarter than them. Weigh the next four years of a lawless president who's literally destroying your democracy against a socialist president who'll try to force M4A on you, along with reinstating regulations aimed to preserving clean water and air for your kids, work on getting money out of politics, give more power to the working class, protect social security, fight the prison industrial complex, end the war on drugs, etc. etc. etc. There is no comparison. Clearly you don't agree with all of his ideas (and surely nobody expects him to get all his ideas through, only to fight for them), but there is not a single redeemable quality about the Trump presidency. Not one. Both sides are not equal, and your children will pay the price for your choices. Please don't stay home. 

 

Personally, I don't think American people have the luxury of voting their conscience anymore. The door to fascism has been swung wide open and a fascist is already in the white house. Don't let him grow any more roots, before it's too late.

Awesome post. Well said, Lockout. 

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Wasn't sure where to put this. Right here looks like a good place. Having listened to MCC's views on CNBC for 15 years I am shocked to hear she's a Democrat. I would have bet my left arm that she was a Conservative.

 

 

Michelle Caruso Cabrera to challenge Ocasio-Cortez in Democratic primary

Tue 11 Feb 2020 14:54:22 GMT

 

MCC vs AOC battle 

In a bit of a shocker, long time CNBC reporter, anchor, investigative journalist Michelle Caruso Cabrera is announce that she will challenge Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez for congressional 14th district seat in New York.  Caruso Cabrera will run as a Democrat in the primary this year.
 
Cabrera will no longer be a CNBC contributor.
 
Cabrera is known as a skeptic of government and proponent of free markets. In 2010 she published book called "You Know I'm Right: More Prosperity, Less Government".  She's been a registered Democrat for several years. 
 
Ocasio-Cortez the freshman Congresswoman shocked the world when she defeated representative Joe Crowley in the parties congressional primary in 2018. She cruise to a victory in the general election.  She is outspoken for policies such as "Medicare for all".  She has been a big endorser of democratic socialist Bernie Sanders in his run for the presidential nomination.  She has also been a favorite target for Pres. Trump in both tweets and speeches.
 
So the MCC vs AOC battle is on. It will certainly be an interesting one to follow. 
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12 minutes ago, Red Light Racicot said:

82% of votes in:

 

Bernie has 26%

Buttigieg has 24.3?

 

I have no idea why people are voting for Buttigieg.

 

Also Biden has 6.4%. Wow.

Maybe because he is one of the few candidates not eligible to collect social security.

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24 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

Expect a few more to end their campaigns.   It's hard to for voters in the next batch of states to take a candidate seriously who couldn't get north of 5 to 10 %.  That means Warren and Biden have some work to do.  The rest might as well join Yang.

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