Warhippy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: Bernie always had a soft spot for Fidel. Florida Dems in uproar after Sanders’ Cuba comments https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/24/florida-dems-uproar-sanders-cuba-comments-117213 Snowflakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: I said after the last Democratic debate that the candidates made a tactical error by concentrating on Michael Bloomberg.... All along, candidates other than Bernie Sanders (and to an extent, Elizabeth Warren) have been trying to promote themselves as the best candidate to beat Donald Trump. Now it looks like they're going to have to shift their strategy to try and portray themselves as the one who can beat Bernie for the nomination. It may be too late: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/483944-rivals-worry-sanders-building-insurmountable-super-tuesday-lead The good news for Bernie's challengers is that as the front runner, he's under more scrutiny and has to answer tougher questions. He's already made a problematic statement about Fidel Castro, but the thing that the "moderate" candidates will likely hammer away at is his inability to explain to Anderson Cooper how he plans to pay for the promises he's been making: https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/24/politics/bernie-sanders-donald-trump-2020/index.html I don’t really give a &^@# about Bernie nut huggers and their pipe dreams. But what I do care is about Trump not getting re elected. They should have never let him run on the Democratic ticket since he is not a democrat. DNC better figure out a way to stop him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Warhippy said: I want Sanders to win. He exemplifies the pendulum swinging dramatically in the direction opposite it did with trump. In 4-8 years it will or should start balancing out more to the centre In the meantime America runs the risk of its democracy being replaced by a true oligarchy I'd be fine with a Sanders win as well. I think he might run into some economic realities when he tries to implement some of his ideas, but I think he truly has the interests of middle and lower income Americans at heart. That being said, beating Bone Spurs is the singular issue in the upcoming election, IMHO. I don't care which candidate does it, as all of them are far superior to that lying, racist, corrupt blowhard. The trick is going to be picking the candidate who can do so. Logically, any of them should be able to, but logic left the building 4 years ago.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Just now, CBH1926 said: I don’t really give a &^@# about Bernie nut huggers and their pipe dreams. But what I do care is about Trump not getting re elected. They should have never let him run on the Democratic ticket since he is not a democrat. DNC better figure out a way to stop him. It's a slippery slope.... They put their thumb on the scale in 2016 and it cost them a lot of Bernie supporters. Someone needs to step up and garner the nomination without interference from the DNC, otherwise, the Bernie Bros will stay home again and hand another term to Bone Spurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, RUPERTKBD said: It's a slippery slope.... They put their thumb on the scale in 2016 and it cost them a lot of Bernie supporters. Someone needs to step up and garner the nomination without interference from the DNC, otherwise, the Bernie Bros will stay home again and hand another term to Bone Spurs. It’s a lose lose situation, even if Sanders looses fair and square. I guarantee you some of his supporters will feel like he was shafted again and stay home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: It’s a lose lose situation, even if Sanders looses fair and square. I guarantee you some of his supporters will feel like he was shafted again and stay home. Well, if that's their attitude, they deserve another 4 years of Trump. Honestly, this is all the incentive anyone should need. They should get out and vote in droves to evict Bone Spurs, even if the Dems nominate a shaved monkey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 CNN et al, really aren't helping the situation here..... Main page of CNN.com has more than one story about how establishment Democrats are "freaking out" about Bernie's big lead. What better way to convince moderates that Sanders is unelectable? Those dolts are making it into a self-fulfilling prophecy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 15 hours ago, CBH1926 said: Bernie always had a soft spot for Fidel. Florida Dems in uproar after Sanders’ Cuba comments https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/24/florida-dems-uproar-sanders-cuba-comments-117213 Apparently so did the Trudeau’s, especially Mom! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 15 hours ago, CBH1926 said: I don’t really give a &^@# about Bernie nut huggers and their pipe dreams. But what I do care is about Trump not getting re elected. They should have never let him run on the Democratic ticket since he is not a democrat. DNC better figure out a way to stop him. Sorry but if I had a pick between Bernie or Trump I am voting Trump. What is worst a blowhard or someone willing to make promises he knows he cannot keep. Both deal in deception and the ability to exploit people. Anyone who suggests that socialists/communists are not in the business of deception and exploitation are naive. Trump has many faults but to an extent has delivered. He has been cast as a war monger, Russian stooge, sex pervert, fake businessman etc...... Yet he delivers a robust economy, record jobs, higher pay, more capital investment and a stronger military. He holds allies to account for not pulling their weight. All of this is popular with most Americans I talk to. Does this mean Trump is the saviour of America? I do expect Trump to be re-elected. I also expect a major financial crisis during his 2nd term. It will be a worldwide crisis which could take decades to overcome. Many will take comfort in blaming Trump for this. While he did nothing to help the situation it began decades earlier with governments who consistently deficit spent. They never made their citizens make hard choices. Trump will become a footnote as all politicians should be. At some point it has to be the people who step up and not the father figures they so easily abdicate their responsibilities too. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 16 hours ago, CBH1926 said: I don’t really give a &^@# about Bernie nut huggers and their pipe dreams. But what I do care is about Trump not getting re elected. They should have never let him run on the Democratic ticket since he is not a democrat. DNC better figure out a way to stop him. then they'll definitely lose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Boudrias said: Sorry but if I had a pick between Bernie or Trump I am voting Trump. What is worst a blowhard or someone willing to make promises he knows he cannot keep. Both deal in deception and the ability to exploit people. Anyone who suggests that socialists/communists are not in the business of deception and exploitation are naive. Trump has many faults but to an extent has delivered. He has been cast as a war monger, Russian stooge, sex pervert, fake businessman etc...... Yet he delivers a robust economy, record jobs, higher pay, more capital investment and a stronger military. He holds allies to account for not pulling their weight. All of this is popular with most Americans I talk to. Does this mean Trump is the saviour of America? I do expect Trump to be re-elected. I also expect a major financial crisis during his 2nd term. It will be a worldwide crisis which could take decades to overcome. Many will take comfort in blaming Trump for this. While he did nothing to help the situation it began decades earlier with governments who consistently deficit spent. They never made their citizens make hard choices. Trump will become a footnote as all politicians should be. At some point it has to be the people who step up and not the father figures they so easily abdicate their responsibilities too. Your entire message is so adorably laughable. I'll vote for trump because screw that socialist. Trump will be in charge during a major decades long financial crisis. Which, contrary to your ending statement is in fact going to be largely caused by him by pretty much every credible economists statements. But ya, fear the socialist. Edited February 25, 2020 by Warhippy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Your entire message is so adorably laughable. I'll vote for trump because screw that socialist. Trump will be in charge during a major decades long financial crisis. Which, contrary to your ending statement is in fact going to be largely caused by him by pretty much every credible economists statements. But ya, fear the socialist. Ya, I wonder how much socialism is going to be required with this economic collapse he predicts. With TRUMP at the helm, it'll be corporate welfare socialism as opposed to socialism for the average Joe. But hey, Socialism is BAD!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Just now, thedestroyerofworlds said: Ya, I wonder how much socialism is going to be required with this economic collapse he predicts. With TRUMP at the helm, it'll be corporate welfare socialism as opposed to socialism for the average Joe. But hey, Socialism is BAD!!! I just have to laugh at anyone who thinks a literal world wide decades long economic collapse is a good thing and worth voting for the guy economists predict will be the epicentre of. Trumps policies are literally hyper inflating a bubble that was never actually popped during 2008. The belief that the world came out of that recession is ridiculous we just survived it. Any and almost all processes put in placer to mitigate or avoid another failure of that type have ben stripped away and exacerbated by Trumps policies. But omg socialist might win, better double down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Boudrias said: Sorry but if I had a pick between Bernie or Trump I am voting Trump. What is worst a blowhard or someone willing to make promises he knows he cannot keep. - Repeal and replace - Build the Wall - Lock her up And that was with all three branches of government under the control of the GOP. Edited February 25, 2020 by RUPERTKBD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Watching Joe Biden is painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Bernie reminds me of the partisan commissar from the old country. Warren and Steyer should drop out. Pete can actually carry a conversation without looking like he has an aneurism. Mike looks like a used car salesman but he is weathering attacks well. I like Joe but he is slowing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Looks like Sleepy Joe is making a comeback: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/poll-biden-crushing-sanders-in-south-carolina/ar-BB10tOQd?li=AAggFp4 Quote Joe Biden has a massive lead over Bernie Sanders and the rest of the Democratic presidential rivals in South Carolina, according to a Monmouth University poll out Thursday. The poll, released two days before the crucial, first-in-the-South primary — shows Biden with a 20-point advantage over Sanders, 36 percent to 16 percent. Billionaire self-funder Tom Steyer, who has spent far more money in South Carolina than any other candidate, is third, with 15 percent — the only other candidate in double-digits or even approaching the critical, 15-percent threshold to earn statewide delegates. A resounding victory in South Carolina would give Biden much needed momentum going into Super Tuesday after his abysmal showings in Iowa and New Hampshire, and distant-second finish in Nevada. Biden is being propelled in South Carolina by African-American voters, who make up a majority of the Democratic primary electorate. He is the first choice of 45 percent of black voters, the poll shows, far more than are backing Steyer (17 percent) or Sanders (13 percent). That could bode well for Biden in a handful of southeastern states with large black populations also holding primaries next month, including Alabama and North Carolina on March 3, Mississippi on March 10 and Georgia on March 24. The Monmouth University poll was conducted Feb. 23-25 — mostly before Tuesday night’s debate in Charleston, S.C., and entirely before Biden officially earned the endorsement of House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn, a long-time black political figure in South Carolina who represents one of only two Democratic-held congressional districts in the state. After the top candidates are three others who have struggled to earn significant support from black voters: Elizabeth Warren at 8 percent, Pete Buttigieg at 6 percent and Amy Klobuchar at 4 percent. Warren, the Massachusetts senator, is winning only 5 percent of African-American voters, but that’s more than Buttigieg’s 2 percent or Klobuchar’s 0 percent. While Sanders cobbled together a cross-section of Democrats to win a blowout victory in Nevada last week, there are signs he is struggling to reassemble that coalition in South Carolina. The Vermont senator lags 25 points behind Biden among women voters, 40 points behind Biden among seniors 65 and older and trails Biden by 24 points among those who describe their political ideologies as moderate or conservative. Biden, meanwhile, leads almost across the board. He’s still the top candidate among voters under 50, leading Sanders, 31 percent to 18 percent, with Steyer at 16 percent. Among voters who describe themselves as liberal, Biden is at 33 percent, to 24 percent for Sanders, 16 percent for Warren and 13 percent for Steyer. The poll surveyed 454 likely Democratic primary voters, sampled from a list of voters who participated in at least one primary or general election in 2018 or 2016. The margin of error is plus or minus 4.6 percentage points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 5:59 PM, CBH1926 said: I don’t really give a &^@# about Bernie nut huggers and their pipe dreams. But what I do care is about Trump not getting re elected. They should have never let him run on the Democratic ticket since he is not a democrat. DNC better figure out a way to stop him. You are right he is way better than a democrat. He actually is for the little guy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Is anyone surprised that the party with the habit of crying "Fake News!" at any story that paints them in a bad light is resorting to a campaign of disinformation about Joe Biden in South Carolina? https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/newspolitics/obama-demands-tv-stations-stop-airing-despicable-anti-biden-ad-from-pro-trump-pac-that-misuses-his-words/ar-BB10tDj7?li=AAggNb9 Quote "Joe Biden promised to help our community. It was a lie. Here's President Obama," the ad begins, then continues to play an audio passage from Obama's 1995 memoir, "Dreams from My Father," to allude that Biden supports "plantation politics" and describes how the black community had been wrongfully treated. The ad simultaneously flashes headlines across the screen that knocked Biden's history on race, and concludes: "Enough. Joe Biden won't represent us, defend us, or help us. Don't believe Biden's empty promises." PolitiFact found that the audio is Obama reading a quotation from a barber about Chicago's first black mayor, Harold Washington, where the man says, “Plantation politics. Black people in the worst jobs.The worst housing. Police brutality rampant. But when the so-called black committeemen came around election time, we’d all line up and vote the straight Democratic ticket. Sell our souls for a Christmas turkey.” The ad comes from the Committee to Defend the President, and aired on local CBS affiliates in South Carolina before Tuesday night's Democratic debate in Charleston. Obama's office said his lawyers would be sending the PAC a cease-and-desist letter. Obama spokeswoman Katie Hill told USA TODAY in a statement that, "[T]his despicable ad is straight out of the Republican disinformation playbook, and it’s clearly designed to suppress turnout among minority voters in South Carolina by taking President Obama’s voice out of context and twisting his words to mislead viewers." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 6 hours ago, spur1 said: You are right he is way better than a democrat. He actually is for the little guy. Another reason for him to run as an independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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