CBH1926 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Expect a few more to end their campaigns. It's hard to for voters in the next batch of states to take a candidate seriously who couldn't get north of 5 to 10 %. That means Warren and Biden have some work to do. The rest might as well join Yang. Biden and Warren’s campaign is stuck in neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 41 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: Biden and Warren’s campaign is stuck in neutral. Ya, I would have thought they would have done better. Jim being a former VP and her being a prominent senator from the region. They better do better soon or they are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 As the Democrats have been trying to get endorsement from the most powerful union in Nevada which has 130k members. It looks like Medicare for all proposal is not sitting well. To be clear, 130k members and their families have their own medical fund that they have fought for since the 1960s. In new flyer, Culinary Union warns members Sanders would ‘end’ their health care if elected president https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/in-new-flyer-culinary-union-warns-members-sanders-would-end-their-health-care-if-elected-president https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/in-new-flyer-culinary-union-warns-members-sanders-would-end-their-health-care-if-elected-presidenthttps://thenevadaindependent.com/article/in-new-flyer-culinary-union-warns-members-sanders-would-end-their-health-care-if-elected-president Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I wonder if this is the same magic wand they were going to wave to get 20-30 trillions to cover this pipe dream? AOC lowers expectations on Medicare for All, admitting Sanders 'can't wave a magic wand' to pass it https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/aoc-lowers-expectations-on-medicare-for-all-admitting-sanders-cant-wave-a-magic-wand-to-pass-it/ar-BB100My5?li=BBnbcA1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: I wonder if this is the same magic wand they were going to wave to get 20-30 trillions to cover this pipe dream? AOC lowers expectations on Medicare for All, admitting Sanders 'can't wave a magic wand' to pass it https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/aoc-lowers-expectations-on-medicare-for-all-admitting-sanders-cant-wave-a-magic-wand-to-pass-it/ar-BB100My5?li=BBnbcA1 Already paying 20-30 plus trillions in the form of premiums, deductibles and copays. Add in the price gouging on things like insulin and EpiPens and the current system is way more expensive to just keep doing. But hey, socialism is bad. Edit: the magic pen refers to the party that is against reforming the system. All evidence points to that party wanting to take healthcare from people. Edited February 15, 2020 by thedestroyerofworlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: Already paying 20-30 plus trillions in the form of premiums, deductibles and copays. Add in the price gouging on things like insulin and EpiPens and the current system is way more expensive to just keep doing. But hey, socialism is bad. Edit: the magic pen refers to the party that is against reforming the system. All evidence points to that party wanting to take healthcare from people. The difference between what is projected to be spent on health care from 2020-2029 vs. projected cost of Medicare for all is 34 trillion. I am not sure where people think that money will come from, unless of course we raise taxes. Edited February 15, 2020 by CBH1926 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: The difference between what is projected to be spent on health care from 2020-2029 vs. projected cost of Medicare for all is 34 trillion. I am not sure where people think that money will come from, unless of course we raise taxes. Just so we're clear. Are you under the impression that this is a one time lump sum payment of said estimated $34 trillion? As well, what is the math on 327 million people in which 34 TRILLION is the estimated number for healthcare? As I kind of think that number has to be a shade high and at the most extreme end of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 “Sleep” (or is it creepy) Joe Biden gets shut out in the first two primaries. How long before he calls it quits and drops out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: The difference between what is projected to be spent on health care from 2020-2029 vs. projected cost of Medicare for all is 34 trillion. I am not sure where people think that money will come from, unless of course we raise taxes. You already have private taxes in the form of premiums, deductibles and copays. Along with inflated administrative costs and price gouging. Instead of your private taxes fattening the wallets of the Martin Shkreli's of the world, that money in the form of public taxes goes towards healthcare. Even on the conservative estimates money will be saved. The costs you are complaining about are not new, on top of what's already being paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 57 minutes ago, CBH1926 said: I wonder if this is the same magic wand they were going to wave to get 20-30 trillions to cover this pipe dream? AOC lowers expectations on Medicare for All, admitting Sanders 'can't wave a magic wand' to pass it https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/aoc-lowers-expectations-on-medicare-for-all-admitting-sanders-cant-wave-a-magic-wand-to-pass-it/ar-BB100My5?li=BBnbcA1 I like Bernie. I think he’s one of the very few politicians who is honest. It’s his philosophical beliefs that I think are so far left that no way will the US voters elect him as President. The Dems will screw Bernie again in 2020, just like they did in 2016, because they also know his views are just too crazy left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Light Racicot Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, CBH1926 said: I wonder if this is the same magic wand they were going to wave to get 20-30 trillions to cover this pipe dream? AOC lowers expectations on Medicare for All, admitting Sanders 'can't wave a magic wand' to pass it https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/aoc-lowers-expectations-on-medicare-for-all-admitting-sanders-cant-wave-a-magic-wand-to-pass-it/ar-BB100My5?li=BBnbcA1 AOC is simply stating what was already the case as far as I can tell. Bernie is going to need a ton of help in order to implement Medicare for all, millions of people are going to have to want this to happen. Pharmaceutical companies are extremely powerful and influential entities. America spends more money then any other country on healthcare, yet the people who live there can't even go to a hospital for fear of going bankrupt. Its obscene. Edited February 15, 2020 by Red Light Racicot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Red Light Racicot said: America spends more money then any other country on healthcare, yet the people who live there can't even go to a hospital for fear of going bankrupt. Its obscene. No hyperbole to see here, people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Alflives said: I like Bernie. I think he’s one of the very few politicians who is honest. It’s his philosophical beliefs that I think are so far left that no way will the US voters elect him as President. The Dems will screw Bernie again in 2020, just like they did in 2016, because they also know his views are just too crazy left. Hillary is already getting her "ducks" in a row. Campaign header "The Revenge Tour". Bloomberg will top off her "shadow bank accounts". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Kragar said: No hyperbole to see here, people. Only slightly. People ignoring health problems until they become dire, because they can't afford to see a doctor, is an issue here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: Only slightly. People ignoring health problems until they become dire, because they can't afford to see a doctor, is an issue here. Budget and Buy health insurance; it’s available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: Budget and Buy health insurance; it’s available. My insurance currently costs $321 a month and for that, I get the privilege of paying a $35 to $70 copay for a doctors visit with a $2500 deductible on top of that if I actually need serious care. Despite making pretty good money, if I wasn't being reimbursed for the majority of my premiums through my job, I could not afford that. What's your MSP costing you per month, Alf? Edited February 15, 2020 by HerrDrFunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: My insurance currently costs $321 a month and for that, I get the privilege of paying a $35 to $70 copay for a doctors visit with a $2500 deductible on top of that if I actually need serious care. Despite making pretty good money, if I wasn't being reimbursed for the majority of my premiums through my job, I could not afford that. What's your MSP costing you per month, Alf? In taxes, unless one believes the political propaganda, thousands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canorth Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 24 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said: My insurance currently costs $321 a month and for that, I get the privilege of paying a $35 to $70 copay for a doctors visit with a $2500 deductible on top of that if I actually need serious care. Despite making pretty good money, if I wasn't being reimbursed for the majority of my premiums through my job, I could not afford that. What's your MSP costing you per month, Alf? MSP premiums were eliminated at the start of 2020. Prior to that I believe it was about 37.50 per person/month. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: In taxes, unless one believes the political propaganda, thousands. Yeah, I guess when you’re health insurance costs way less than mine, rhetoric is all that remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Canorth said: MSP premiums were eliminated at the start of 2020. Prior to that I believe it was about 37.50 per person/month. Nice! Wow, no wonder Alf didn’t want to give an actual answer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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