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5 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Expect a few more to end their campaigns.   It's hard to for voters in the next batch of states to take a candidate seriously who couldn't get north of 5 to 10 %.  That means Warren and Biden have some work to do.  The rest might as well join Yang.

Biden and Warren’s campaign is stuck in neutral.

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I wonder if this is the same magic wand they were going to wave to get 20-30 trillions to cover this pipe dream?


AOC lowers expectations on Medicare for All, admitting Sanders 'can't wave a magic wand' to pass it

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/aoc-lowers-expectations-on-medicare-for-all-admitting-sanders-cant-wave-a-magic-wand-to-pass-it/ar-BB100My5?li=BBnbcA1

 

 

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9 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

I wonder if this is the same magic wand they were going to wave to get 20-30 trillions to cover this pipe dream?


AOC lowers expectations on Medicare for All, admitting Sanders 'can't wave a magic wand' to pass it

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/aoc-lowers-expectations-on-medicare-for-all-admitting-sanders-cant-wave-a-magic-wand-to-pass-it/ar-BB100My5?li=BBnbcA1

 

 

Already paying 20-30 plus trillions in the form of premiums, deductibles and copays.   Add in the price gouging on things like insulin and EpiPens and the current system is way more expensive to just keep doing.  But hey, socialism is bad. 

 

Edit:  the magic pen refers to the party that is against reforming the system.  All evidence points to that party wanting to take healthcare from people.

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18 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Already paying 20-30 plus trillions in the form of premiums, deductibles and copays.   Add in the price gouging on things like insulin and EpiPens and the current system is way more expensive to just keep doing.  But hey, socialism is bad. 

 

Edit:  the magic pen refers to the party that is against reforming the system.  All evidence points to that party wanting to take healthcare from people.

The difference between what is projected to be spent on health care from 2020-2029 vs. projected cost of Medicare for all is 34 trillion.

I am not sure where people think that money will come from, unless of course we raise taxes.


 

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8 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

The difference between what is projected to be spent on health care from 2020-2029 vs. projected cost of Medicare for all is 34 trillion.

I am not sure where people think that money will come from, unless of course we raise taxes.


 

Just so we're clear.

 

Are you under the impression that this is a one time lump sum payment of said estimated $34 trillion?  

 

As well, what is the math on 327 million people in which 34 TRILLION is the estimated number for healthcare?  As I kind of think that number has to be a shade high and at the most extreme end of things.

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17 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

The difference between what is projected to be spent on health care from 2020-2029 vs. projected cost of Medicare for all is 34 trillion.

I am not sure where people think that money will come from, unless of course we raise taxes.


 

 

 

You already have private taxes in the form of premiums, deductibles and copays.  Along with inflated administrative costs and price gouging.   Instead of your private taxes fattening the wallets of the Martin Shkreli's of the world, that money in the form of public taxes goes towards healthcare.   Even on the conservative estimates money will be saved.  The costs you are complaining about are not new, on top of what's already being paid.  

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57 minutes ago, CBH1926 said:

I wonder if this is the same magic wand they were going to wave to get 20-30 trillions to cover this pipe dream?


AOC lowers expectations on Medicare for All, admitting Sanders 'can't wave a magic wand' to pass it

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/aoc-lowers-expectations-on-medicare-for-all-admitting-sanders-cant-wave-a-magic-wand-to-pass-it/ar-BB100My5?li=BBnbcA1

 

 

I like Bernie.  I think he’s one of the very few politicians who is honest.  It’s his philosophical beliefs that I think are so far left that no way will the US voters elect him as President.  The Dems will screw Bernie again in 2020, just like they did in 2016, because they also know his views are just too crazy left.  

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2 hours ago, CBH1926 said:

I wonder if this is the same magic wand they were going to wave to get 20-30 trillions to cover this pipe dream?


AOC lowers expectations on Medicare for All, admitting Sanders 'can't wave a magic wand' to pass it

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/aoc-lowers-expectations-on-medicare-for-all-admitting-sanders-cant-wave-a-magic-wand-to-pass-it/ar-BB100My5?li=BBnbcA1

 

 

AOC is simply stating what was already the case as far as I can tell.

 

Bernie is going to need a ton of help in order to implement Medicare for all, millions of people are going to have to want this to happen. Pharmaceutical companies are extremely powerful and influential entities.

 

America spends more money then any other country on healthcare, yet the people who live there can't even go to a hospital for fear of going bankrupt. Its obscene.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Red Light Racicot said:

America spends more money then any other country on healthcare, yet the people who live there can't even go to a hospital for fear of going bankrupt. Its obscene.

No hyperbole to see here, people.

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8 hours ago, Alflives said:

I like Bernie.  I think he’s one of the very few politicians who is honest.  It’s his philosophical beliefs that I think are so far left that no way will the US voters elect him as President.  The Dems will screw Bernie again in 2020, just like they did in 2016, because they also know his views are just too crazy left.  

Hillary is already getting her "ducks" in a row. Campaign header "The Revenge Tour". Bloomberg will top off her "shadow bank accounts". 

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6 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Budget and Buy health insurance; it’s available.  

My insurance currently costs $321 a month and for that, I get the privilege of paying a $35 to $70 copay for a doctors visit with a $2500 deductible on top of that if I actually need serious care.  Despite making pretty good money, if I wasn't being reimbursed for the majority of my premiums through my job, I could not afford that. 

 

What's your MSP costing you per month, Alf?

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20 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said:

My insurance currently costs $321 a month and for that, I get the privilege of paying a $35 to $70 copay for a doctors visit with a $2500 deductible on top of that if I actually need serious care.  Despite making pretty good money, if I wasn't being reimbursed for the majority of my premiums through my job, I could not afford that. 

 

What's your MSP costing you per month, Alf?

In taxes, unless one believes the political propaganda, thousands. 

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24 minutes ago, HerrDrFunk said:

My insurance currently costs $321 a month and for that, I get the privilege of paying a $35 to $70 copay for a doctors visit with a $2500 deductible on top of that if I actually need serious care.  Despite making pretty good money, if I wasn't being reimbursed for the majority of my premiums through my job, I could not afford that. 

 

What's your MSP costing you per month, Alf?


MSP premiums were eliminated at the start of 2020. Prior to that I believe it was about 37.50 per person/month.

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