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2 hours ago, Chicken. said:

No need to be sorry pal.. no sore spot... no offence... just laughter at your choice of words :)  I do not claim to be a voice of reason, I believe I said something like providing balance to the ideological forces in the Trump thread since I like to see posts on both sides rather than the echo chamber the thread has become. it is what it is.

 

Okay here is an MSM (or far right?) piece saying the same thing as the far-right publication... content is virtually the same... point being the GOP strategy is all about Biden succumbing to the far-left with his word for word copying. look forward to seeing if the verbatim wording makes it to the official platform.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/kevin-mccarthy-biden-socialist-surrender-bernie-sanders 

 

Kevin McCarthy: Biden showing he'll 'surrender' to Bernie-led 'socialist wing' of the party

 

 

Cool, I'm fully on board if Biden is surrendering to Bernie. ;)

 

They'll slowly learn that socialism is becoming more of a badge of honor than a boggyman as the younger generations become eligible voters and the boomers and gen xers start dying off. 

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3 hours ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

Depends on who his VP is.  Donnie is actually probably more rational than the hypocrite Jeebus lover Pence.  THAT is the scary part.

Surprised to hear you say that. I thought Pence handled the Covid briefings pretty well. Carried his thoughts forward in a consistent manner. That is all I have ever heard him talk. Trump on the other hand seems to lose his line of thought and just starts to ad lib.   

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4 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said:

Cool, I'm fully on board if Biden is surrendering to Bernie. ;)

 

They'll slowly learn that socialism is becoming more of a badge of honor than a boggyman as the younger generations become eligible voters and the boomers and gen xers start dying off. 

Possibly. There is some buzz about Gen Z being the most conservative younger generation to date though.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#25dc061c7878 

 

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While Millennials still remember cassette players and dial-up Internet, Generation Z grew up hounded by perpetual terrorist threats and school shootings reflecting on them from their Macbook and iPad screens.

They grew up watching Millennials entering the work force with thousands of dollars in school debt, and it seems that they are intent on not making the same mistakes as us.

According to research, Gen Z is more individualistic, more conservative both socially and fiscally, and they’re already making waves of impact on our political system. Gen Z, those born in 1995 or later, is possibly the most conservative generation since World War II, and it is worrying that their impact has been completely overlooked during this election. While our fears might be preemptive, we should not make the mistake of disregarding the intriguing yet also possibly worrying world views of Generation Z.

 

Oftentimes Millennials have been criticized for being notoriously liberal, but it looks like the generation right behind us has completely rebelled. A U.K. Study at The Gild did a survey of almost 2,000 adults and found that on issues like gay marriage, marijuana legalization, transgender rights, and even tattoos, 59% of Gen Z respondents described their views as ‘conservative’ and ‘moderate’.

 

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2 minutes ago, Boudrias said:

Surprised to hear you say that. I thought Pence handled the Covid briefings pretty well. Carried his thoughts forward in a consistent manner. That is all I have ever heard him talk. Trump on the other hand seems to lose his line of thought and just starts to ad lib.   

It's all part of an act imho (not surprised he's in the WWE hall of fame heh).  

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13 minutes ago, Chicken. said:

Possibly. There is some buzz about Gen Z being the most conservative younger generation to date though.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#25dc061c7878 

 

 

Ehh, not surprised, generational left and right view tends to ping pong between generations as the child tend to like rebelling against their parents. 

Thing is, don't think even with the conservative view, socialism is going to be a taboo word for generations that didn't experience the cold war. 

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9 minutes ago, gurn said:

8 years is a bit light, imo. 

I think this is one of the things that makes widespread voter fraud extremely far fetched....

 

In a country of 330 million, how many people would risk a lengthy jail sentence, just to cast an extra vote or two? It makes zero sense.....

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5 hours ago, Chicken. said:

No need to be sorry pal.. no sore spot... no offence... just laughter at your choice of words :)  I do not claim to be a voice of reason, I believe I said something like providing balance to the ideological forces in the Trump thread since I like to see posts on both sides rather than the echo chamber the thread has become. it is what it is.

 

Okay here is an MSM (or far right?) piece saying the same thing as the far-right publication... content is virtually the same... point being the GOP strategy is all about Biden succumbing to the far-left with his word for word copying. look forward to seeing if the verbatim wording makes it to the official platform.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/kevin-mccarthy-biden-socialist-surrender-bernie-sanders 

 

Kevin McCarthy: Biden showing he'll 'surrender' to Bernie-led 'socialist wing' of the party

 

 

I think he mistook confederate army for JB.

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2 hours ago, Boudrias said:

Surprised to hear you say that. I thought Pence handled the Covid briefings pretty well. Carried his thoughts forward in a consistent manner. That is all I have ever heard him talk. Trump on the other hand seems to lose his line of thought and just starts to ad lib.   

That's true. Pence definitely spins and lies much more eloquently than Trump, lol. 

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3 minutes ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said:

That's true. Pence definitely spins and lies much more eloquently than Trump, lol. 

IMO, Pence is fine until he starts in with the obligatory sycophantic, "Under the leadership of president Trump" routine. Credibility blown....

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2 hours ago, JoeyJoeJoeJr. Shabadoo said:

That's true. Pence definitely spins and lies much more eloquently than Trump, lol. 

I have a built-in bias against those jeebus lovers.  At least with Donnie, I know he's not religious (he only says that to placate his base).  Bone Spurs is as immoral as Slick Willy.

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22 hours ago, Chicken. said:

Possibly. There is some buzz about Gen Z being the most conservative younger generation to date though.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/#25dc061c7878 

 

 

I’m not sure how much sleep the Dems are going to lose over this.

 

First off, the polling was from the UK, and conducted by The Gild (a strategic brand consultancy). I’m not sure how applicable the data would be. Just because 59% of Zoomers in the UK call themselves “conservative” or “moderate,” when it comes to issues like “gay marriage, marijuana legalization, transgender rights, and tattoos,” doesn’t really mean that Gen Z in the USA is going to vote Republican.
 

It’s also a shame that the original polling is behind a paywall, because I’d really like to see how many of those UK Zoomers actually answered “moderate.” Let’s say, of the 59%, half answered “conservative” and half answered “moderate.” That would  mean that around 70% of those polled would have also answered either “moderate” or “liberal.” 
 

When it comes to Gen Z polling in the USA, most of what I’ve seen tells a very different story than this Forbes article. 
 

Here’s Pew Research:

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/01/17/generation-z-looks-a-lot-like-millennials-on-key-social-and-political-issues/
 

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/essay/on-the-cusp-of-adulthood-and-facing-an-uncertain-future-what-we-know-about-gen-z-so-far/
 

From the above data, we see pretty wide support among Gen Z for an activist government and things like gay marriage, transgender rights, etc. They are certainly the most progressive voting age group in the USA, when it comes to these issues.

 

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Google “Gen Z politics” and you’ll come across a bunch of articles and polling/studies saying the same thing. Generation Z is the most progressive age group in the USA.
 

One article even suggested that AOC’s political positions represent the median attitudes of Zoomers, meaning for Gen Z, AOC is basically a centrist (let that sink in).

 

Also, when you search “Gen Z politics,” every article that mentions Zoomers as “centrist” or “right leaning” is quoting the data from that one UK poll. All the other polling data and articles I’ve seen seem to suggest the exact opposite, especially when it comes to Zoomers in the USA.

 

https://www.niskanencenter.org/the-gops-gen-z-problem-and-path-forward/
 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.voanews.com/student-union/gen-z-politically-leaning-left%3famp
 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.teenvogue.com/story/how-will-gen-z-vote/amp
 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/04/08/gen-z-was-fed-up-with-status-quo-coronavirus-could-reinforce-their-liberal-politics/%3foutputType=amp
 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2020/01/28/the-2020s-can-end-americas-generational-divide-in-politics/amp/

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16 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

TRUMP's path to victory is pretty narrow if he loses Pennsylvania.  

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/15/poll-biden-leads-trump-pennsylvania-363880

Poll: Biden up 13 points on Trump in Pennsylvania

Trump won Pennsylvania by less than one percentage point in 2016.

Just like his mind....

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