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On 5/30/2019 at 6:42 PM, VancouverHabitant said:
Rk Player Age Tm Pos GP G A PTS +/- PIM PS EV PP SH GW EV PP SH S S% TOI ATOI BLK HIT
FOW FOL FO%
1 Ryan Reaves 32 VEG RW 80 9 11 20 1 74 1.6 6 3 0 2 11 0 0 95 9.5 870 10:52 24 305 40 54 42.6
2 Lawson Crouse 21 ARI LW 81 11 14 25 5 67 2.6 9 0 2 1 14 0 0 131 8.4 1049 12:57 44 288 24 34 41.4
3 Brandon Tanev 27 WPG LW 80 14 15 29 9 41 2.7 12 0 2 0 14 0 1 127 11.0 1129 14:07 81 278 3 5 37.5
4 William Carrier 24 VEG LW 54 8 1 9 -4 29 0.7 8 0 0 1 1 0 0 85 9.4 537 9:57 13 277 0 0  
5 Matt Martin 29 NYI LW 67 6 8 14 5 53 1.0 6 0 0 1 8 0 0 62 9.7 766 11:26 42 275 6 9 40.0
6 Cedric Paquette 25 TBL C 80 13 4 17 7 80 1.4 11 0 2 1 4 0 0 87 14.9 960 12:00 61 269 404 364 52.6
7 Milan Lucic 30 EDM LW 79 6 14 20 -9 91 0.5 4 2 0 0 12 2 0 74 8.1 1046 13:14 22 259 25 20 55.6
8 Robert Hagg 23 PHI D 82 5 15 20 -3 63 3.3 5 0 0 1 15 0 0 86 5.8 1390 16:57 158 258 0 0  
9 Adam Larsson 26 EDM D 82 3 17 20 -28 44 1.8 3 0 0 0 16 0 1 117 2.6 1773 21:37 128 256 0 0  
10 Radko Gudas 28 PHI D 77 4 16 20 6 63 3.9 4 0 0 0 16 0 0 136 2.9 1376 17:53 133 255 0 0  
11 Chris Wagner 27 BOS C 76 12 7 19 3 51 1.6 12 0 0 1 7 0 0 135 8.9 1022 13:27 38 247 54 66 45.0
12 Rasmus Ristolainen 24 BUF D 78 5 38 43 -41 38 4.3 4 1 0 2 22 16 0 182 2.7 1922 24:38 121 235 0 0  
13 Jack Johnson 32 PIT D 82 1 12 13 -4 41 1.8 0 1 0 0 9 1 2 86 1.2 1581 19:17 147 233 0 0  
14 Nikita Zadorov 23 COL D 70 7 7 14 19 75 4.4 7 0 0 0 7 0 0 100 7.0 1204 17:12 67 228 0 0  
15 Blake Coleman 27 NJD C 78 22 14 36 -19 71 3.3 16 3 3 3 12 0 2 213 10.3 1327 17:01 44 225 109 153 41.6
16 Adam Lowry 25 WPG LW 78 12 11 23 6 33 1.8 11 0 1 3 9 0 2 105 11.4 1142 14:38 49 223 643 473 57.6
17 Alex Ovechkin 33 WSH LW 81 51 38 89 7 40 11.0 33 18 0 5 28 10 0 338 15.1 1695 20:55 41 223 1 4 20.0
18 Noel Acciari 27 BOS C 72 6 8 14 -3 47 0.4 6 0 0 2 8 0 0 99 6.1 935 12:59 36 221 200 203 49.6
19 Josh Anderson 24 CBJ RW 82 27 20 47 25 60 6.2 22 3 2 5 15 4 1 230 11.7 1396 17:01 40 214 12 26 31.6

 

 

One thing that was forgotten when discussing Louie's 3 hits last year is that Milan was 7th in the entire league in hits with 259.  It goes along with the fact that his foot speed is fine, but that his confidence with his hands was gone last season.  

Lucic does hit as that was and is a big part of his game/effectiveness.  But just because he hits that doesn't equate to foot speed. The reason he is hitting more is because he isn't being put in an offensive role but more of an "identity" role as Hitchjock so clearly stated.  Meaning Lucic was told to play a physical heavy game and was deployed that way.

 

I think he was deployed this way because he was ineffective offensively.  He couldn't keep up with McDavid et al and struggled to get opportunities to finish because of it.  The games I watched Lucic was never an offensive threat and when he hit someone was usually in danger of being caught out of position when play went the other way.  20 points in 79 games and  a -9.  Not really effective.  

 

 

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a lot depends on that ntc ...     if coilers sweeten with that 1st round pick or pool party , I would be happy .   

 

Wouldn't surprise me if he comes and is revitalized .  He could also be left for the expansion draft 

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1 minute ago, Lulover88 said:

a lot depends on that ntc ...     if coilers sweeten with that 1st round pick or pool party , I would be happy .   

 

Wouldn't surprise me if he comes and is revitalized .  He could also be left for the expansion draft 

Lucic has a No Move Clause, and an extra year on his contract.  The Oilets would have to add a lot. 

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the more i think about it, the more i am open to a Lucic/Eriksson swap. 

 

cause apparently if he waives his ntc, we wont have to protect him at the expansion draft. 

 

Eriksson just isn't emotionally invested in the team imo like just like Guddy. seeing him play for Sweden is like a totally different player than the one that plays for us.

 

both could use a change of scenery, he had back 2 back 50 point seasons not too long ago in 2016 and 2017. maybe playing for his hometown could re-ignite his passion and provide protection for our young guys.

 

McDavid has missed 2 games in 3 years with Lucic on the team. 

 

the Matheson hit and him not answering the bell when challenged still doesnt sit well with me. Lucic would've beaten his ass wether he liked it or not. 

 

Lucic + 8th or Pulju (wants out) for LE + Goldobin 

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16 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Lucic has a No Move Clause, and an extra year on his contract.  The Oilets would have to add a lot. 

I had read somewhere that if he is moved , the ntc becomes negotiable .. i could be wrong 

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1 minute ago, Lulover88 said:

I had read somewhere that if he is moved , the ntc becomes negotiable .. i could be wrong 

Yup, he can waive it. 

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19 minutes ago, Trebreh said:

the more i think about it, the more i am open to a Lucic/Eriksson swap. 

 

cause apparently if he waives his ntc, we wont have to protect him at the expansion draft. 

 

Eriksson just isn't emotionally invested in the team imo like just like Guddy. seeing him play for Sweden is like a totally different player than the one that plays for us.

 

both could use a change of scenery, he had back 2 back 50 point seasons not too long ago in 2016 and 2017. maybe playing for his hometown could re-ignite his passion and provide protection for our young guys.

 

McDavid has missed 2 games in 3 years with Lucic on the team. 

 

the Matheson hit and him not answering the bell when challenged still doesnt sit well with me. Lucic would've beaten his ass wether he liked it or not. 

 

Lucic + 8th or Pulju (wants out) for LE + Goldobin 

i had the exact same trade in mind

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4 minutes ago, Lulover88 said:

I had read somewhere that if he is moved , the ntc becomes negotiable .. i could be wrong 

Biech said that earlier, but he corrected himself later. Apparently the NMC isn't negotiable. We make this deal, and Lucic has to be protected. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, 48MPHSlapShot said:

Biech said that earlier, but he corrected himself later. Apparently the NMC isn't negotiable. We make this deal, and Lucic has to be protected. 

 

 

Finally some clarity on this. Thanks

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Just now, VIC_CITY said:

Finally some clarity on this. Thanks

I would have actually been for the deal, especially if EDM was to add sweetner, but this kinda puts a dagger into it, unless EDM wants to do something nuts like throw in their 1st.

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5 minutes ago, Nicklas Bo Hunter said:

Couldn't we just buy out lucic before the Seattle draft? 

Great question. 

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On 5/27/2019 at 2:53 PM, Jimmy McGill said:

assuming the deal means Luc waives that NMC for expansion, what would you really be OK with in return if Loui E is going the other way tho? 

 

I'm seeing more comments about people being OK with a player swap. 

If Lucic waives his NMC for a deal and it stays waived for the team picking him up, I doubt there will be much of a sweetner in a deal for Loui. Two older declining players with different skill sets and similar contracts except for the one extra year for Lucic.

 

Loui - can still skate a bit and is good defensively (and good at the little things :ph34r:)

Lucic - a big physical presence that is also good in front of the opposing net; at this point a 3rd or 4th liner same as Loui

 

I think that IF a Canuck / Oiler swap does take place, that at max the Canucks get a 4th round pick or so to make up for the extra year - I was thinking a 3rd but those picks sometimes turn out and might be a bit high.

 

If Pulju is worth about a 3rd now (I saw that either on here or another site) then maybe the Canucks could get Lucic and Pulju for Loui and a 4th. Although, normally teams don't want to trade former high picks in their own division in case it makes them look bad.....or maybe I just think that is true lol.

 

What do you all think?

 

Edit: I just saw the post about the NMC following the player. Can't a player still waive a NMC if they agree to it as part of their contract? I am pretty sure the answer is Yes. Just because Lucic would waive the clause to come to Vancouver in a Loui swap the NMC is still intact. However, if a player chooses to waive a NMC in a contract they can do that. So maybe the Canucks would just have to agree with Lucic that for the expansion a NMC would not protect him. It should be like any other part of a contract. If both parties agree to cancel the clause it is cancelled. Just my 2 cents.

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