The Vancouver Connection Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) https://www.coastmountainnews.com/news/saddest-part-of-our-lives-guatemalan-workers-describe-aquilini-groups-b-c-farm/ https://twitter.com/AshDKelly/status/1133437056753971200 After reading this, I'm beyond disgusted, I think it's time to think twice before purchasing tickets to support this family. Such a shame. Edited May 29, 2019 by The Vancouver Connection 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob_Zepp Posted May 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, The Vancouver Connection said: https://www.coastmountainnews.com/news/saddest-part-of-our-lives-guatemalan-workers-describe-aquilini-groups-b-c-farm/ After reading this, I'm beyond disgusted, I think it's time to think twice before purchasing tickets to support this family. Such a shame. Maybe you should read more about the issue and the attempted extortion by said workers. Such a shame only one side of the story is being portrayed. Alternative is this business doesn't have to employ people and pay them for the hours they worked. https://twitter.com/fr_aquilini/status/1130983997608157184/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1130983997608157184|twgr^363937393b70726f64756374696f6e&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.coastmountainnews.com%2Fnews%2Fsaddest-part-of-our-lives-guatemalan-workers-describe-aquilini-groups-b-c-farm%2F 1 2 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) I doubt the family had first hand knowledge of this considering the size of their holdings. If true they have liability here no doubt but the management are the ones who should be held accountable if proven to be criminal. Edited May 29, 2019 by Gnarcore 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhuis Hip Check Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Hopefully its not true or not 100 % true but damn its a bad day for the aqualinis if it turns out to be correct, ill still be a canucks fan of course but my financial support will definitely take a nose dive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Worst thing about that article is only a $500 fine for that much in unpaid wages. If anything, that will serve to convince others that it's worth the risk to attempt similar shadiness. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vancouver Connection Posted May 29, 2019 Author Share Posted May 29, 2019 https://twitter.com/AshDKelly/status/1133437056753971200 - Here's the thread posted from today's findings. The accusations are pretty major. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bissurnette Posted May 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Maybe you should read more about the issue and the attempted extortion by said workers. Such a shame only one side of the story is being portrayed. Alternative is this business doesn't have to employ people and pay them for the hours they worked. https://twitter.com/fr_aquilini/status/1130983997608157184/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1130983997608157184|twgr^363937393b70726f64756374696f6e&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.coastmountainnews.com%2Fnews%2Fsaddest-part-of-our-lives-guatemalan-workers-describe-aquilini-groups-b-c-farm%2F Read both sides of the story people. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said: Maybe you should read more about the issue and the attempted extortion by said workers. Such a shame only one side of the story is being portrayed. Alternative is this business doesn't have to employ people and pay them for the hours they worked. https://twitter.com/fr_aquilini/status/1130983997608157184/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1130983997608157184|twgr^363937393b70726f64756374696f6e&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.coastmountainnews.com%2Fnews%2Fsaddest-part-of-our-lives-guatemalan-workers-describe-aquilini-groups-b-c-farm%2F Dude, you should get your facts straight as well. The Acquilini group 'called' the settlement demand 'exhortative'. In other words that is their 'opinion/view' and not necessarily fact. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 This is why we have government people. The letter by the Aquilini group contends that they don't think their interpretation of the work contract was incorrect, nonetheless they will abide by the decision. They have also said they are addressing the safety and work conditions. So in other words an admission that things were not up to standard. I have experienced far worse conditions tree planting - one shower for 40 people, no hot water, no warm food, paid at times lower than the minimum wage, 10-12 hour work days, no regular days off, non road worthy trucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Channelling their inner Orangeogre. Must be a rich thing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, samurai said: This is why we have government people. The letter by the Aquilini group contends that they don't think their interpretation of the work contract was incorrect, nonetheless they will abide by the decision. They have also said they are addressing the safety and work conditions. So in other words an admission that things were not up to standard. I have experienced far worse conditions tree planting - one shower for 40 people, no hot water, no warm food, paid at times lower than the minimum wage, 10-12 hour work days, no regular days off, non road worthy trucks. Contra proferentem would dictate if the contract was open to interpretation, the Aquilini's interpretation wasn't correct. Their lawyer would have doubtlessly advised them of this. In non-legalese: it's up to the party who wrote the contract to remove any ambiguity from the contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhuis Hip Check Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Contra proferentem would dictate if the contract was open to interpretation, the Aquilini's interpretation wasn't correct. Their lawyer would have doubtlessly advised them of this. In non-legalese: it's up to the party who wrote the contract to remove any ambiguity from the contract. Definitely, cant expect the poor migrants workers to have the best legal minds helping them like the aqualinis do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Salary cap violation? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JM_ Posted May 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2019 3 hours ago, The Vancouver Connection said: https://www.coastmountainnews.com/news/saddest-part-of-our-lives-guatemalan-workers-describe-aquilini-groups-b-c-farm/ https://twitter.com/AshDKelly/status/1133437056753971200 After reading this, I'm beyond disgusted, I think it's time to think twice before purchasing tickets to support this family. Such a shame. I think you should put "alleged" in the title and wait for all the evidence before passing judgment. I doubt we know everything yet. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted May 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2019 Right...because no one ever had the idea to extort from rich people. I will reserve judgement...but there are always two sides. And if you read the whole story, some may have come here with intentions to do more than work for a few months. I guess the truth will come out and is likely somewhere in the middle. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 minute ago, debluvscanucks said: Right...because no one ever had the idea to extort from rich people. I will reserve judgement...but there are always two sides. And if you read the whole story, some may have come here with intentions to do more than work for a few months. I guess the truth will come out and is likely somewhere in the middle. the right thing to do here is wait for the facts and whatever legal actions come from this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 Premier of Alberta Jason Kenney and his Neocon Conservative lapdogs were responsible for this unpopular TFW program. I recall back around 2014 it was probably the number one issue in the country as Harper's Conservatives were collapsing. The debate went something like this... "Canadians losing their jobs so that TFWs can be hired, creating higher unemployment as more TFWs flood into Canada, keeping wages low in these industries, and reducing the job opportunities for summer students who need the jobs so they can afford to finish their education. ( I'm not gonna argue TFW's, I'm just saying it was very controversial then ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DADDYROCK Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) Typical wealthy greedy people,but of course they fined them 500 dollars,what a joke how about 500 thousand dollars, for abusive behavior towards workers in general. These well educated wealthy people only care about money and there is NEVER ENOUGH. It's all about the greed,instead of sharing the wealth,they hoard it all for themselves those selfish B$%^ards. I don't know what these universities and colleges are teaching these people but a bit of ethics and empathy and morals toward there fellow humans is sadly lacking,in the wealthy population.Just look how much the top CEO WAGES HAVE GONE UP IN THE LAST 30 YEARS IN COMPARISON TO THE MIDDLE CLASS WAGE EARNERS., YOU WILL PLAINLY SEE THE AMOUNT OF GREED IS JUST RAMPANT. Edited May 29, 2019 by DADDYROCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, DADDYROCK said: Typical wealthy greedy people,but of course they fined them 500 dollars,what a joke how about 500 thousand dollars, for abusive behavior towards workers in general. These well educated wealthy people only care about money and there is NEVER ENOUGH. It's all about the greed,instead of sharing the wealth,they hoard it all for themselves those selfish B$%^ards. I don't know what these universities and colleges are teaching these people but a bit of ethics and empathy and morals toward there fellow humans is sadly lacking,in the wealthy population.Just look how much the top CEO WAGES HAVE GONE UP IN THE LAST 30 YEARS IN COMPARISON TO THE MIDDLE CLASS WAGE EARNERS., YOU WILL PLAINLY SEE THE AMOUNT OF GREED IS JUST RAMPANT. IMO the main problem is in the middle class and their incompetence in wealth acclamation or earning potential.... The mindset of most of not all rich people is to try to amass as much assets as possible usually working in different fields/and or jobs; where as middle class plebs are entering fields that might have a good job title, but earn less than say a bus driver or some other blue collar field.. For example people would rather work as an accountant and be paid much less than say a janitor or other blue collar worker (plumber etc..) who could be paid more. I know someone personally who earns more money as a janitor than as a bank teller at the bank.. I blame the school system for brainwashing middle class children and parents into thinking being a doctors or engineer is the only option in life.. Edited May 29, 2019 by drummer4now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 The family made their money as slumlords, so this is no surprise. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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