ItTakesAnArmy Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 (edited) With all the pressure to not lose 50 games again next year and Benning being on his last year of his contract and the millions now paid for successful GM's and the draft held in Vancouver and that the CBA may cancel the 2021 season in September after the draft and Free Agency day July 1. And the Seattle expansion. With all that happening the value of the 2020 draft must be considered and planned for. Many teams will be (tanking) positioning for higher picks in that year one quick dip into that deep pool and revamped, two to four years (2 1rst - 2 2nds) of rebuilding in one Will Benning trade away 2020 picks for help now, sell out the future, a future he may not see for temporary immediate success, make the playoffs. To help improve his resume for future million dollar contracts? Possibly even Seattle. Having two or three 2020 1rst round picks or even second rounders in the 40's may alter a franchise for years speeding up rebuilds or retools. Already there are 4 or 5 players listed as "can't miss" future super stars and at least one better than Crosby. What do you think Benning should do? What is right for the team and trade for next year's picks? This would solidify the future core for 10 years as all the kids will be within 3 years of age except Horvat. Trade next years picks for players? Many teams are looking to off load contracts so some player may be cheap, a 2020 2nd round or something like that, Zaitsev for a 2020 2nd? Trade FOR next year's picks? Even 2nd/3rd rounders may be like late first rounders and if there is no hockey in 2021 then the next draft will be like the Crosby draft and use the last years standings but all the kids will get that year to bulk up and practice pro hockey. Same all as the last years? Nothing? Benning has been silent in the draft since coming here, i don't think he can do that this year, i think he will want his name remembered for getting the first overall, that undersized guy, Hughes, maybe a Boeser and Horvat for Hughes deal, then he has brothers ala Sedins and the team's first ever #1 drafted player Will he make a splash, sit on his hands and say "they only wanted our good players" Next years draft a #45 might be the same as a #10 this year. Pretty sure this is not a trade forum subject, nor is it a GM/Proposal subject, it is a Canuck disscussion much along the lines of jersey colors, orr vs Boeser, today in history Edited June 1, 2019 by ItTakesAnArmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milk and honey Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 2003 draft I thought was the best draft until 2013 opps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItTakesAnArmy Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, milk and honey said: 2003 draft I thought was the best draft until 2013 opps 2003. Found this about that year and it may be pertinent in 3 weeks. If you were a NHL general manager in ’03, you could probably close your eyes, toss a rock in any direction and hit a stud square in the gullet. Unless you have the worst luck ever or took the Maple Leafs’ ’65 Draft approach. They trade away all their draft picks that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 I don't know about that far back. 2015 was pretty damn good as well. That being said, 2020 looks to be promising. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 They say the same thing every year. I remember hearing about how the '99 draft year was very strong going in too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: 2003. Found this about that year and it may be pertinent in 3 weeks. If you were a NHL general manager in ’03, you could probably close your eyes, toss a rock in any direction and hit a stud square in the gullet. Unless you have the worst luck ever or took the Maple Leafs’ ’65 Draft approach. They trade away all their draft picks that year. Flash forward a few years from 2003. And what do we see? The lockout. It was what followed the lockout that made so many dominant HOCKEY players stand out from that draft. That small window where the refs called everything. The red line offside was eliminated. The game opened up! We saw real hockey players playing hockey for the first time in a long time. Its no secret that the open game is what helped The Sedins take off. It was that 3/4's of a regular season following the dead puck and Devil' trap eras that really made this particular draft group, all hitting their prime at the same time, shine. I want to see a major overhaul in officiating and open the game up again. It was glorious. With all of the speed and pure talent coming up right now, it could be incredibly glorious again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DADDYROCK Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Time to stock up on draft picks and maybe even get the HOCKEY GODS on our side for the lotto draft. The HOCKEY GODS KNOW WE ARE DUE AND COULD REALLY BENEFIT FROM THIS, CONSIDERING WE WENT THE WRONG WAY IN PICKS FOUR STRAIGHT YEARS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DADDYROCK Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 We have to remember that soon Seattle will be coming into the league and we must be very careful with player management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, DADDYROCK said: We have to remember that soon Seattle will be coming into the league and we must be very careful with player management. Seattle can only take one player from us (4th best dman or 8th best forward or supposed backup goalie). We will be fine as long as we don't give up more on top of this to "protect" more players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canckelhead Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Who said? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Haven't heard much about the 2020 draft. Was hoping for more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckster19 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 hour ago, xereau said: Flash forward a few years from 2003. And what do we see? The lockout. It was what followed the lockout that made so many dominant HOCKEY players stand out from that draft. That small window where the refs called everything. The red line offside was eliminated. The game opened up! We saw real hockey players playing hockey for the first time in a long time. Its no secret that the open game is what helped The Sedins take off. It was that 3/4's of a regular season following the dead puck and Devil' trap eras that really made this particular draft group, all hitting their prime at the same time, shine. I want to see a major overhaul in officiating and open the game up again. It was glorious. With all of the speed and pure talent coming up right now, it could be incredibly glorious again. Gone are the days when 31 year olds got 10 million dollar contracts as well, can believe there was such a time not too long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted June 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 1, 2019 If 2020 is going to be a strong draft year (assuming that means a deep draft year) then shouldn't that be more incentive to make the playoffs and get as far as possible because you'll likely still end up with a pretty good player late in the 1st round anyway? For example, in the 2nd half of the 1st round in 2003, there was Parise, Getzlaf, Burns, Kesler, Perry, and Richards with some secondary guys like Stuart, Eaves, Boyle, Fehr and Bernier who had decent lasting careers. There were some major busts still in that top 15. This just goes to show that tanking doesn't really matter still as the top end of the draft wasn't necessarily stronger than the bottom, but there was simply a lot of NHL players to come from the group. And looking at that list, if I had to do a re-draft for 1st overall, I think I would pick Bergeron who was drafted in the 2nd round (middle of the round). 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 Hugh Jessiman here we come! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 1 hour ago, The Lock said: Hugh Jessiman here we come! "With their 1st round pick, the Canucks are proud to select Hugh Jessiman Jr...." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 News to me. Who said it was a strong draft ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 This is all I've found so far. https://puck77.com/2019/03/11/looking-ahead-at-the-top-2020-nhl-draft-prospects/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 7 hours ago, Lancaster said: They say the same thing every year. I remember hearing about how the '99 draft year was very strong going in too. 03 was was when ANA got Getzlaff and Perry E Stall Kesler Shea Weber Bergeron Parise Suter Phaneuf Pavelski and Burns on and on Seabrook Lou Erickson Backes Loaded draft. Easily best draft ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 9 hours ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: 2003. Found this about that year and it may be pertinent in 3 weeks. If you were a NHL general manager in ’03, you could probably close your eyes, toss a rock in any direction and hit a stud square in the gullet. Unless you have the worst luck ever or took the Maple Leafs’ ’65 Draft approach. They trade away all their draft picks that year. It was only deep until the third round. The best player taken in round 3 was Clarke MacArthur. Also, in the second round 23 players didn't even play 100 games in the NHL. So although there were a few studs taken in the 2nd round that would normally have been 1st rounders, it wasn't to the point as you stated that you could throw a rock in any direction and get a legit NHL'er in the second round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Elias Pettersson Posted June 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 2, 2019 10 hours ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: With all the pressure to not lose 50 games again next year and Benning being on his last year of his contract and the millions now paid for successful GM's and the draft held in Vancouver and that the CBA may cancel the 2021 season in September after the draft and Free Agency day July 1. And the Seattle expansion. With all that happening the value of the 2020 draft must be considered and planned for. Many teams will be (tanking) positioning for higher picks in that year one quick dip into that deep pool and revamped, two to four years (2 1rst - 2 2nds) of rebuilding in one Will Benning trade away 2020 picks for help now, sell out the future, a future he may not see for temporary immediate success, make the playoffs. To help improve his resume for future million dollar contracts? Possibly even Seattle. Having two or three 2020 1rst round picks or even second rounders in the 40's may alter a franchise for years speeding up rebuilds or retools. Already there are 4 or 5 players listed as "can't miss" future super stars and at least one better than Crosby. Which player is projected as BETTER than Crosby? Lafreniere? Crosby had 135 points as a 16 year old, didn't turn 17 until the following August. Then he had 168 points as a 17 year old. By contrast Lafreniere is a late birthday, October 11, so as a 16 year old he had only 80 points and this year as a 17 year old he had only 105 points. If he was born one month sooner he'd be eligible for this year's draft. So to say he's better than Crosby at this point is false information. He may be better than Hughes or Kakko but he's not even close to a generational talent. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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