Alflives Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Rough Neck said: I really don't want to lose Jake, but this seems like the deal would end up making. Not sure how I feel about it though. 1 minute ago, Zhukini said: I mean he has shown a good tendency to move on from his mistakes 1 minute ago, CaptainLinden16 said: No thank you. I don't want this to happen. I'm suggesting this might happen. It provides a top six F and a top 4 D for JB (not that I agree with those valuations) The Leafs dump salary to sign their UFA, and to extend Trouba - if they do trade for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bissurnette Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: Love to dump Loui. How the heck can we? I can only think of sending him to Utica. One way or another. After the bonus is paid out on July 1st, he gets 9 million over the next 3 years with a 6 million cap hit. If we can offload him to a team like OTT who NEED players without it costing us an arm and a leg, then that's one possible outcome. If not, there's always the option of retaining 50% of his contract, giving him a 3 mill cap hit for the team that's picking him up. That's actually decent value for what he brings which is a bottom 6 forward who's decent on the penalty kill. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Utica 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ossi Vaananen Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 Jake is not a mistake, and I hope he isn't going anywhere. Reaves getting traded twice for a first round pick should tell you all you need to know about big guys who can actually play. Jake will get there, and has already outscored Reaves. 6 3 1 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 Just now, Vanuckles said: One way or another. After the bonus is paid out on July 1st, he gets 9 million over the next 3 years with a 6 million cap hit. If we can offload him to a team like OTT who NEED players without it costing us an arm and a leg, then that's one possible outcome. If not, there's always the option of retaining 50% of his contract, giving him a 3 mill cap hit for the team that's picking him up. That's actually decent value for what he brings which is a bottom 6 forward who's decent on the penalty kill. Don't forget guys, Eriksson has a full NTC. He can't be traded unless he gets the final say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riffraff Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 Just now, Dazzle said: Don't forget guys, Eriksson has a full NTC. He can't be traded unless he gets the final say. 1 minute ago, riffraff said: Utica 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, mll said: Don't think it's possible if he intends to stay in the NHL. Eriksson would have earned 27M over 3 years - i.e. an average of 9M but the cap hit was only 6M. Would be too easy for teams to structure contracts that way and agree at signing date that in 3 years they part ways. Would be a similar issue as those recapture contracts - artificially reduce the cap hit while knowing full well that it's not the intent to play the full length of the contract. I think that's a stretch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bissurnette Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Dazzle said: Don't forget guys, Eriksson has a full NTC. He can't be traded unless he gets the final say. Somehow I don't see him blocking too many trades. He's desperately looking for a fresh start as well, I don't think he cares too much about the where. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 The comment about top 6 forwards and top 4 defensemen is scary to me mostly because of who Benning might identify in those roles. Hopefully it's not anyone like Zaitsev, Myers or Ferland. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Zhukini said: I mean he has shown a good tendency to move on from his mistakes I don't agree that Jake is a 'mistake' but I do agree that Jim is making better decisions on the pro-scouting and roster side of things. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: The comment about top 6 forwards and top 4 defensemen is scary to me mostly because of who Benning might identify in those roles. Hopefully it's not anyone like Zaitsev, Myers or Ferland. He said he wanted experienced guys in those roles to cushion our younger players. That's why I mentioned JB could be considering both Zaitsev and Marleau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: The comment about top 6 forwards and top 4 defensemen is scary to me mostly because of who Benning might identify in those roles. Hopefully it's not anyone like Zaitsev, Myers or Ferland. if you take a longer look at Zaitsev's time in TO its not the train wreck being suggested, yeah he's overpaid by 1 to 1.5 mil but if we can get an asset back with him it does balance things out. I'm starting to think he'd be a good fit with Edler. Zaitsev was a + player with Gardiner for 2 seasons and Edler would be a big improvement as a partner for him. Edited June 5, 2019 by Jimmy McGill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Horvat is a Boss said: The comment about top 6 forwards and top 4 defensemen is scary to me mostly because of who Benning might identify in those roles. Hopefully it's not anyone like Zaitsev, Myers or Ferland. Zucker 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Ossi Vaananen said: Jake is not a mistake, and I hope he isn't going anywhere. Reaves getting traded twice for a first round pick should tell you all you need to know about big guys who can actually play. Jake will get there, and has already outscored Reaves. Why is this the bar? So if 5 years from now if whoever we draft in the 2019 draft ends up on the same career trajectory as Jake we can just compare them to a 5th round pick who has found a niche role and be okay with it? Jake is better than a whole lot of players in the league, but his measuring stick shouldn't be 3 feet underground just to make him look better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bree2 Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 I like the way that Jim Benning is so down to earth and honest. I hope that the big guy Tram comes back soon, and that this year we get lucky and get the players to help us progress. I am excited for the new season to start and that all our players stay healthy. it is such a long summer without hockey. 2 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Zhukini said: Why is this the bar? So if 5 years from now if whoever we draft in the 2019 draft ends up on the same career trajectory as Jake we can just compare them to a 5th round pick who has found a niche role and be okay with it? Jake is better than a whole lot of players in the league, but his measuring stick shouldn't be 3 feet underground just to make him look better. Lol, i meant it as a compliment to Jake. Reaves being worth two firsts should extend to Jake being worth more. Don't distort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Zhukini said: Why is this the bar? So if 5 years from now if whoever we draft in the 2019 draft ends up on the same career trajectory as Jake we can just compare them to a 5th round pick who has found a niche role and be okay with it? Jake is better than a whole lot of players in the league, but his measuring stick shouldn't be 3 feet underground just to make him look better. given where he went it was fair to expect more for sure. My feeling is the guy isn't what you'd call a 'fast learner' but there were flashes of him having some dominant shifts last season, and he hasn't actually taken a step back he's slowly getting better. So i have hope he can still turn into a top 6 F. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhodgejr Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 25 minutes ago, Alflives said: Here it comes guys: Tanev + Jake for Zaitsev + Marleau + Nylander. Nylander Pettersson Boeser Pearsons Horvat Marleau Leivo Gaudette Granlund Roussel Beagle Motte Edler Stetcher Tyramkin Zeitsev Hughes Schenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coastal.view Posted June 5, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: given where he went it was fair to expect more for sure. My feeling is the guy isn't what you'd call a 'fast learner' but there were flashes of him having some dominant shifts last season, and he hasn't actually taken a step back he's slowly getting better. So i have hope he can still turn into a top 6 F. well he certainly is slow cooking in terms of his development the worry is he might not be fully baked till he is 30 and then will be past his peak but he is an nhl caliber player which means that so far jb has not missed on any 1st round draft pick that is important giving the past management 1st round picks Edited June 5, 2019 by coastal.view 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 5, 2019 Share Posted June 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: if you take a longer look at Zaitsev's time in TO its not the train wreck being suggested, yeah he's overpaid by 1 to 1.5 mil but if we can get an asset back with him it does balance things out. I'm starting to think he'd be a good fit with Edler. Zaitsev was a + player with Gardiner for 2 seasons and Edler would be a big improvement as a partner for him. I don't know how, in any way, that it would make sense to take TO's SCRAPS and bail them out of their Cap trouble to boot. How about everyone wait them out and "steal" their FA's that they are unable to pay. That would be the smart move to make and the most advantageous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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