bishopshodan Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 46 minutes ago, Chicken. said: Gruesome video of apparently HK police putting a protestor who is in the hospital 'in his place' … That's sickening. What kind of human could commit torture? Such an awful weak piece of scum a person must be to participate in hurting a defenceless old man. I don't care what side you're on. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleysteamersmyl Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 6 hours ago, bishopshodan said: That's sickening. What kind of human could commit torture? Such an awful weak piece of scum a person must be to participate in hurting a defenceless old man. I don't care what side you're on. Even worse. China forcefully harvests organs from detainees, tribunal concludes China's organ transplant trade is worth $1 billion a year, according to a tribunal. This story contains details some may find distressing. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-forcefully-harvests-organs-detainees-tribunal-concludes-n1018646 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted August 21, 2019 Author Share Posted August 21, 2019 13 hours ago, stanleysteamersmyl said: Even worse. China forcefully harvests organs from detainees, tribunal concludes China's organ transplant trade is worth $1 billion a year, according to a tribunal. This story contains details some may find distressing. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-forcefully-harvests-organs-detainees-tribunal-concludes-n1018646 But but but.... (choose the following excuses): A: We have raised more people out of poverty than anywhere else (never mind the fact how they got into said poverty to begin with... cultural revolution, "Great Leap Forward", etc). B: This is an internal matter, please do not interfere. C: All this is a conspiracy by "Western forces" to challenge the legitimacy of China D: This is fake news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted August 21, 2019 Share Posted August 21, 2019 1 minute ago, Lancaster said: But but but.... (choose the following excuses): A: We have raised more people out of poverty than anywhere else (never mind the fact how they got into said poverty to begin with... cultural revolution, "Great Leap Forward", etc). B: This is an internal matter, please do not interfere. C: All this is a conspiracy by "Western forces" to challenge the legitimacy of China D: This is fake news Well it is NBC news so the obvious answer is D is it not or was that last week?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 Chinese more troops "rotating" into HK... China rotates new troops into Hong Kong amid mass protests China's military deployed to Hong Kong China's military deployed troops to Hong Kong early in what it called a routine rotation amid speculation it might interfere with protests. CTV National News: The Crisis in Hong Kong What started as outcry against a controversial bill in Hong Kong has evolved into a pro-democracy movement. Genevieve Beauchemin reports Ken Moritsugu and Yanan Wang, The Associated PressPublished Thursday, August 29, 2019 3:11AM EDT Last Updated Thursday, August 29, 2019 7:52AM EDT HONG KONG -- China's military deployed fresh troops to Hong Kong on Thursday in what it called a routine rotation amid speculation that it might intervene in the city's pro-democracy protests. Video broadcast on China Central Television showed a long convoy of armoured personnel carriers and trucks crossing the border at night and troops in formation disembarking from a ship. Earlier, scores of soldiers ran in unison onto trucks, which the state broadcaster said were bound for ports and entry points into Hong Kong. A handover ceremony was held before dawn. "This time the task has a glorious mission. The responsibility is great. The job is difficult," an unnamed major said to troops before they departed. "The time for a true test has arrived!" RELATED STORIES Hong Kong leader starts dialogue but not budging on demands Split emerges in Chinese-Canadian community amid Hong Kong protests Police defend warning shot as Hong Kong divide widens PHOTOS Armored personnel carriers of China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) pass through the Huanggang Port border between China and Hong Kong on Aug. 29, 2019. (Yuan Junmin / Xinhua via AP) In this photo released by China's Xinhua News Agency, trucks carrying soldiers from China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) pass through the Huanggang Port border between China and Hong Kong, on Aug. 29, 2019. (Yuan Junmin / Xinhua via AP) The official Xinhua News Agency said it was the 22nd rotation of the People's Liberation Army's garrison in Hong Kong. The previous one was in August 2018. Nearly three months of fiery anti-government demonstrations have sparked concerns that the military will be deployed in the semi-autonomous Chinese city. The Hong Kong garrison earlier published a promotional video with scenes of soldiers facing off with people dressed like protesters. Chinese Defence Ministry spokesman Ren Guoqiang told reporters in Beijing on Thursday that the demonstrators must abide by Hong Kong's laws. A leader of 2014 pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong said the city's government is using the same tactics as five years ago. "The government is just trying to threaten people with emergency law, with the entrance of the People's Liberation Army," Yvonne Leung said at a news conference. A former British colony, Hong Kong was returned to China in 1997 under a "one country, two systems" framework, which promises the city certain democratic rights that are not afforded to the mainland. In recent years, however, some Hong Kong residents have accused Beijing of steadily eroding their freedoms. The newly arrived Chinese troops have been educated on Hong Kong's laws and vowed to defend the nation's sovereignty, Xinhua said. "We will firmly implement the guideline of 'one country, two systems' and the Basic Law and the Garrison Law of Hong Kong," Liu Zhaohui, the garrison's deputy chief of staff, said on CCTV. The Garrison Law allows the Hong Kong-stationed troops to help maintain public order at the request of the city government. That has never happened, and Hong Kong authorities have said they can handle the situation themselves. Troops stationed in Macao, another special administrative region, also completed a rotation Thursday. The Xinhua report on the previous rotation in August 2018 did not mention "one country, two systems" or national sovereignty. ------ Wang reported from Beijing. Associated Press videojournalist Johnson Lai contributed to this report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 HK police just attacking people in the train at random now. Plus many of the "violent" protesters labeled by those pro-Chinese are actually just undercover cops. Here's one throwing a molotov cocktail..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakanucks Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 It’s really tense here now, only passengers and airport staff and airline crews allowed into the airports. The train stations that this happened at last night are ones i pass by to go home. I could have been on one of those trains at that moment, I had to take another line and transfer around to get home last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 30 minutes ago, Kakanucks said: It’s really tense here now, only passengers and airport staff and airline crews allowed into the airports. The train stations that this happened at last night are ones i pass by to go home. I could have been on one of those trains at that moment, I had to take another line and transfer around to get home last night. Stay as safe as you can, and please be careful what you post, if it can in anyway be tracked back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakanucks Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, gurn said: Stay as safe as you can, and please be careful what you post, if it can in anyway be tracked back to you. Thank you, i’m just back in HK for vacation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Lancaster said: HK police just attacking people in the train at random now. Plus many of the "violent" protesters labeled by those pro-Chinese are actually just undercover cops. Here's one throwing a molotov cocktail..... Sometimes don't believe everything you see or hear. According to twitter, that picture of that "gun" in the protestor's hostel is a toy gun; a air gun. You can clearly see it has a tan grip and it looks like it is plastic Real Glocks don't have a tan grip. They are all black. Plus HK police are issued service revolvers, not Glocks. Edited September 1, 2019 by DonLever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakanucks Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 53 minutes ago, DonLever said: Sometimes don't believe everything you see or hear. According to twitter, that picture of that "gun" in the protestor's hostel is a toy gun; a air gun. You can clearly see it has a tan grip and it looks like it is plastic Real Glocks don't have a tan grip. They are all black. Plus HK police are issued service revolvers, not Glocks. Usually i would agree not to believe anything u see, but then this same person was seen later last night arresting protestors on the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kakanucks said: Usually i would agree not to believe anything u see, but then this same person was seen later last night arresting protestors on the street. The pictures do not show the person "arresting" anyone. All the pictures shows are 2 people struggling. Also, in the picture you can see another person wearing a white shoe. Is that person a cop or a protestor? Besides, an undercover cop would not wear gun a in holster that is so visible. If he did carry a gun, it would be hidden away. Having a gun on your hip defeats the purpose of being undercover as everyone will know you are a cop. Edited September 1, 2019 by DonLever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 17 hours ago, DonLever said: Sometimes don't believe everything you see or hear. According to twitter, that picture of that "gun" in the protestor's hostel is a toy gun; a air gun. You can clearly see it has a tan grip and it looks like it is plastic Real Glocks don't have a tan grip. They are all black. Plus HK police are issued service revolvers, not Glocks. Probably a toss-up with the second story... but the first one was more or less just cops beating people. No attempt at any arrest was even made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Some rare good news.. ? https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3025641/hong-kong-leader-carrie-lam-announce-formal-withdrawal Quote Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam announces formal withdrawal of the extradition bill and sets up a platform to look into key causes of protest crisis City’s leader finally agrees to one of protesters’ five demands after weeks of insisting bill would not be withdrawn Five Demands: Complete withdrawal of the extradition bill from the legislative process Retraction of the "riot" characterisation Release and exoneration of arrested protesters Establishment of an independent commission of inquiry into police conduct and use of force during the protests Resignation of Carrie Lam and the implementation of universal suffrage for Legislative Council and Chief Executive elections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 At least they are making some progress. People in this country and south of the border roll over and passively accept whatever the government does. Or, no, wait, sorry, we vote every four years because that makes a huge difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Chicken. said: Some rare good news.. ? https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3025641/hong-kong-leader-carrie-lam-announce-formal-withdrawal Five Demands: Complete withdrawal of the extradition bill from the legislative process Retraction of the "riot" characterisation Release and exoneration of arrested protesters Establishment of an independent commission of inquiry into police conduct and use of force during the protests Resignation of Carrie Lam and the implementation of universal suffrage for Legislative Council and Chief Executive elections According to Lam's wording, it has only been put into motion to the council..... which convenes conveniently after the 70th anniversary of the PRC celebration. Still nothing tangible. There are recordings of Lam wishing to step down. Of course, she denied it by saying she didn't officially request it. Double-speak... of course. The fight isn't over yet. HK will keep striking while the iron is hot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted September 30, 2019 Author Share Posted September 30, 2019 An "Anti-Authoritarianism" Rally in Vancouver today (along with 40 other cities globally). Interestingly enough, I don't see any mentions of it on any local news.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Lancaster said: An "Anti-Authoritarianism" Rally in Vancouver today (along with 40 other cities globally). Interestingly enough, I don't see any mentions of it on any local news.... Vancouver News is a joke. Journalism died in Vancouver about 30 years ago...... Jack retired in 1988 and that was pretty much it for our provinces journalism profession..... Edited September 30, 2019 by kingofsurrey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 The escalation continues.. hard to know what the to believe these days but the officer apparently was in a tough spot surrounded by protestors.. pretext for military intervention maybe Quote The Demosisto protest group shared a video on social media that appeared to show a police officer firing a handgun into the chest of an approaching protester at near-point-blank range. The video, captured and posted online by a Hong Kong University student union group, showed the police officer was surrounded by protesters throwing objects when he opened fire. A police official confirmed an officer had opened fire in the Tsuen Wan area, and that a protester had been hit. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/30/world/asia/china-national-day-hong-kong-protests.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/hong-kong-protests-today-shooting-live-round-china-national-day-a9127561.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtis Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 China sucks. No wonder so many Chinese are coming to Canada and USA and other countries.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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