PhillipBlunt Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, Alflives said: So you’re saying Loui is a whiner, who (because he’s not getting to play the role he expects) won’t try to help his team win? Not really. It just seems familiar in the sense that now that he sees the lay of the land with the direction Green is taking the team in, and the influx of new and better players, he might not be willing to accept his diminishing role. 16 minutes ago, Alflives said: To me that’s way worse than skills just not being good enough anymore. I don't think so. If he's traded to a team that can utilize him higher up in the lineup, those still intact skills can come in handy. 16 minutes ago, Alflives said: Why would any team want him? That’s clearly behaviour of a room cancer. Because he can still play. I wouldn't classify him as a cancer though. That term gets used way too often on these forums. In my opinion, a locker room cancer is someone who undermines the team actively by playing teammates against each other, and attempts to spread their discourse. I can't see Loui being the type who would go into the locker room and try to muster up support for himself over the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 43 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Not really. It just seems familiar in the sense that now that he sees the lay of the land with the direction Green is taking the team in, and the influx of new and better players, he might not be willing to accept his diminishing role. I don't think so. If he's traded to a team that can utilize him higher up in the lineup, those still intact skills can come in handy. Because he can still play. I wouldn't classify him as a cancer though. That term gets used way too often on these forums. In my opinion, a locker room cancer is someone who undermines the team actively by playing teammates against each other, and attempts to spread their discourse. I can't see Loui being the type who would go into the locker room and try to muster up support for himself over the team. No way he'll be a locker room cancer...believe it has him who took care of EP over Christmas and had him over for Christmas dinner etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostsOf1994 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 49 minutes ago, coastal.view said: i think we need to re-shape the narrative on loui Timråfan is right about him i'm sure he is out there on other team's boards convincing them all about how loui is a top notch elite player who has simply been misused by the nucks i'm soon expecting some sort of bidding war from other teams and at least a 1st rounder being offered in exchange for him i mean, excellent contract for an elite player who is only being paid 3 million aav for the next 3 seasons and can certainly play 1st line minutes I hope this song makes it to LE so he can see how sweet Utica really is. https://youtu.be/Rhd3a9UvBww Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garthsbutcher Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Louie Louie, oh no, you gotta go Long bus rides in the A wait for you For three years now the fans you did screw Time to waive that no trade or go back home You Swedish meatball get your agent on the phone Louie Louie oh no, you gotta go 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 send him to the ECHL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, spook007 said: No way he'll be a locker room cancer...believe it has him who took care of EP over Christmas and had him over for Christmas dinner etc. There, he invested some of his earnings towards our top future player. He's inching back closer to his contract worth! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 31, 2019 Author Share Posted July 31, 2019 40 minutes ago, Squamfan said: send him to the ECHL I don't think you actually can... but no need to really. Just make him report to Utica, attend all practices, ride the bus... and not get any playing time I don't see a veteran player with a young family thousands of miles away lasting that long under those circumstances before he gets himself suspended. He has put himself in a position with his play, his publict statements, his agent's public statements, and "reportedly" blocking other NHL options... that no one will feel like he is being hard done by from the team's perspective. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 On 7/28/2019 at 8:08 PM, Silver Ghost said: It could make sense if Kesler never plays again like it seems is the case. It puts the Canucks right at the cap ceiling so couldnt they put him on ltir and gain that cap space back? Kesler has little incentive to retire as he still stands to make a ton. Even if he did though, it would not hurt the Canucks. I think too many have become enamoured with Wunderboy Dubas in regards to this LTIR business. It's akin to big-spending Keynesians claiming that the more debt you have the more wealthy you are. Dubas is doing whatever he can to get himself out of a jam; we are in no such trouble and don't need to start skirting around cap mechanics trying to use any desperation measures when they aren't necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Ghost Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 26 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: I think too many have become enamoured with Wunderboy Dubas in regards to this LTIR business. It's akin to big-spending Keynesians claiming that the more debt you have the more wealthy you are. Dubas is doing whatever he can to get himself out of a jam; we are in no such trouble and don't need to start skirting around cap mechanics trying to use any desperation measures when they aren't necessary. The cap oberage comes with risks of its own so i agree that we dont need to do it. But it would be ok if it moved Eriksson out lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, spook007 said: No way he'll be a locker room cancer...believe it has him who took care of EP over Christmas and had him over for Christmas dinner etc. So I guess we keep Loui because he’s a good Girl Guide, and 6 million Brownie points for baby sitting is a bargain? Ep does not need Eriksson for anything.. he is the consummate professional you could only wish Eriksson could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, SilentSam said: So I guess we keep Loui because he’s a good Girl Guide, and 6 million Brownie points for baby sitting is a bargain? Ep does not need Eriksson for anything.. he is the consummate professional you could only wish Eriksson could be. I'm thinking that spook was referring to what Eriksson had already done this past Christmas and not what his place on the team would be going forward. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, SilentSam said: So I guess we keep Loui because he’s a good Girl Guide, and 6 million Brownie points for baby sitting is a bargain? Ep does not need Eriksson for anything.. he is the consummate professional you could only wish Eriksson could be. I don't think you've followed me on this Sam. I am 100% in the good bye LE camp... But there is a difference between not being able to perform to your contract and being a locker room cancer, si? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Squamfan said: send him to the ECHL 57 minutes ago, Provost said: I don't think you actually can... Any one way contract signed in the NHL has a provision where a player can only be assigned to the ECHL with their permission. Jordan Binnington used his right to refuse assignment a few years ago when he was squeezed out and was subsequently lent to the bruins AHL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MystifyNCrucify Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, coryberg said: Any one way contract signed in the NHL has a provision where a player can only be assigned to the ECHL with their permission. Jordan Binnington used his right to refuse assignment a few years ago when he was squeezed out and was subsequently lent to the bruins AHL team. Interesting. Maybe thats why gagner got stuck on the marlies....benning wanted him down as far as the echl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 46 minutes ago, spook007 said: I don't think you've followed me on this Sam. I am 100% in the good bye LE camp... But there is a difference between not being able to perform to your contract and being a locker room cancer, si? The problem is the garbage LE spewed to the media, completely separate from his unwillingness to put in an acceptable effort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Ghost Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, King Heffy said: The problem is the garbage LE spewed to the media, completely separate from his unwillingness to put in an acceptable effort. His comments to the media were not as bad as you claim, not by a longshot. He stated the obvious, aka Green doesnt trust him as much as he was previously trusted on other teams. And he stated, also quite obviously, that its a struggle to put up the offense he still feels he is capable of while playing a defensive role. His comments were from his own perspective. He did not say anything all that bad about Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, King Heffy said: The problem is the garbage LE spewed to the media, completely separate from his unwillingness to put in an acceptable effort. Agree... he should have kept his mouth shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Ghost Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, spook007 said: Agree... he should have kept his mouth shut. He probably should have. But people are making a far bigger issue of it than it actually is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Silver Ghost said: He probably should have. But people are making a far bigger issue of it than it actually is. Possibly... but nothing good ever come out from criticising your coach usage of you... In particular if you are not performing to standards that could be expected. There has been nothing to suggest he has been a locker room cancer. He is a player, who hasn't lived up to his cap hit... and at times not looked like he had much interest in trying to do so neither... Best for all parties if he departs... Edited July 31, 2019 by spook007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Ghost Posted July 31, 2019 Share Posted July 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, spook007 said: Possibly... but nothing good ever come out from criticising your coach usage of you... In particular if you are not performing to standards that could be expected. There has been nothing to suggest he has been a locker room cancer. He is a player, who hasn't lived up to his cap hit... and at times not looked like he had much interest in trying to do so neither... Best for all parties if he departs... I agree. People saying he is a cancer are just reaching too far. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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