coryberg Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 49 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Baertschi has only played in 79 games over the last 2 years and couldn't finish out the year. I don't think his market value is as high as you think. Basically the same games and points as Marcus Johansen over those 2 years. The market showed him to be worth 4.5mil x 2. Baer at 3.36 x2 would be considered bargain. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, coryberg said: Basically the same games and points as Marcus Johansen over those 2 years. The market showed him to be worth 4.5mil x 2. Baer at 3.36 x2 would be considered bargain. Johansen previously has put up much better numbers, a 24 goal year and a 20 goal year and is a Stanley Cup champ. He can also play centre so is a more versatile player and is 6'1" 205 pounds. I don't believe he has concussions issues either. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, aGENT said: Even still, his cap and term are low enough that he be a good gamble for another team (just as he is for us). He might not return much on trade but if you're aim is to clear cap/roster space, I don't think there's any need to retain. Not saying we necessarily have to retain, if we don't all the better. I'd just rather deal with this in the summer versus going into the season with Baertschi locked into our top 6 with no contingency plan if he gets injured again. Leivo already has the 3rd line left wing role locked down, plus we still have Roussel whenever he comes back to play on the 3rd line as well. We don't need Baertschi as a 3rd line winger, so if he can't play in our top 6 then we need to part ways with him. Edited July 6, 2019 by Elias Pettersson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Just now, Elias Pettersson said: Not saying we necessarily have to retain, if we don't all the better. I'd just rather deal with this in the summer versus going into the season with Baertschi locked into our top 6 with no contingency plan if he gets injured again. Leivo already has the 3rd line left wing role locked down. I don't think Baer's at all locked in to a top 6 role. He's going to have to compete with Goldobin, Leivo, Virtanen, Gaudette etc for that spot. Rome doesn't need to be built in a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rekker Posted July 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, aGENT said: I don't think Baer's at all locked in to a top 6 role. He's going to have to compete with Goldobin, Leivo, Virtanen, Gaudette etc for that spot. Rome doesn't need to be built in a day. True. But Rome can be erroneously suspended in the finals in a day. Ugh. 2 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 31 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Johansen previously has put up much better numbers, a 24 goal year and a 20 goal year and is a Stanley Cup champ. He can also play centre so is a more versatile player and is 6'1" 205 pounds. I don't believe he has concussions issues either. Not sure where you got your info from but Johansson has had multiple concussions in his career. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lonny_Bohonos_14 Posted July 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) Wonder if there has been any discussion about loaning Eriksson to Europe? Chicago did that with Huet way back to get out from his contract. I believe we would negotiate a deal with a team where they take over a portion of his contract and we front the rest, but that would be a way around the mutual termination. Loui gets his money and we get rid of him and his cap hit. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/blackhawks/ct-xpm-2010-11-20-chi-101120-cristobal-huet-blackhawks-hersh-story,amp.html&ved=2ahUKEwj_yduVmKHjAhXvUN8KHUlnAngQFjACegQICBAI&usg=AOvVaw3GABueE3LTQNHA-3std1NG&cf=1 Edited July 6, 2019 by Lonny_Bohonos_14 1 5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 1 hour ago, aGENT said: I don't think Baer's at all locked in to a top 6 role. He's going to have to compete with Goldobin, Leivo, Virtanen, Gaudette etc for that spot. Rome doesn't need to be built in a day. I don’t think Benning’s plan is to have 3rd liners play with BO. I’m hoping he can figure it out and get another top 6 forward into the mix while keeping our 3rd line strong. Let’s see what he does. A 3rd line of Leivo Sutter Virtanen would be ideal. Goldobin is basically insurance for injuries. Gaudette can start in Utica and move into the 3C when Sutter gets his next injury. Eriksson can ride the buses in Utica. So that leaves Basrtschi. Like I said I’d be hesitant to role with him as our top 6 winger with BO. I’d rather seek out other options while we can in the summer. If you think he can be traded with no salary retention then that would be the best case scenario for Benning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 I can’t see how some people here are thinking LE will be riding busses at a 6M salary. The most the Canucks save is 1M off the cap space and like some have pointed out, that would be spent on a plug called up in his place. LE won’t retire either. That’s 3M per year paycheques he would be throwing away. There is no way he gets that anywhere, not in Europe nor in Russia. No one wants him so he can’t be traded. Even if we retain half his salary in a trade, todays NHL players at 3M are way better that LE. As as much as I detest LE, I think this team is stuck with him unless we trade a bad contract for another bad one like Lucic. The hope in this move would be a resurgence in the players for both teams making the trade. I think this is the only realistic option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 51 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I don’t think Benning’s plan is to have 3rd liners play with BO. I’m hoping he can figure it out and get another top 6 forward into the mix while keeping our 3rd line strong. Let’s see what he does. A 3rd line of Leivo Sutter Virtanen would be ideal. Goldobin is basically insurance for injuries. Gaudette can start in Utica and move into the 3C when Sutter gets his next injury. Eriksson can ride the buses in Utica. So that leaves Basrtschi. Like I said I’d be hesitant to role with him as our top 6 winger with BO. I’d rather seek out other options while we can in the summer. If you think he can be traded with no salary retention then that would be the best case scenario for Benning. Who said anything about 3rd liners? Baer is very much a 2nd line player now as long as he's healthy. If one of those other guys earns that spot it would stand to reason they out played Baer for it. Which would make them...? By all means, I'm not opposed to trading him and replacing him as well, as per your outline there. I just don't think it's anything resembling emergent. It's a 'want', not a 'need'. We don't need to have our future, contending top 6 together before camp opens...or even this year. We have time to fill in that blank (which may already have been filled with 10th or 40th OA at this year's draft regardless). It's simply not a pressing concern IMO. 1 hour ago, Lonny_Bohonos_14 said: Wonder if there has been any discussion about loaning Eriksson to Europe? Chicago did that with Huet way back to get out from his contract. I believe we would negotiate a deal with a team where they take over a portion of his contract and we front the rest, but that would be a way around the mutual termination. Loui gets his money and we get rid of him and his cap hit. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/blackhawks/ct-xpm-2010-11-20-chi-101120-cristobal-huet-blackhawks-hersh-story,amp.html&ved=2ahUKEwj_yduVmKHjAhXvUN8KHUlnAngQFjACegQICBAI&usg=AOvVaw3GABueE3LTQNHA-3std1NG&cf=1 Enjoy the SHL Loui! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, grandmaster said: I can’t see how some people here are thinking LE will be riding busses at a 6M salary. The most the Canucks save is 1M off the cap space and like some have pointed out, that would be spent on a plug called up in his place. While any cap savings would be nice if it can be arranged, if we're past that phase, simply opening the roster spot and doing away with his $6m arse is good enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Something will be done, and it sounds like there are plenty of options. Not even penciling him into lineup projections, same for Schaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Lonny_Bohonos_14 said: Wonder if there has been any discussion about loaning Eriksson to Europe? Chicago did that with Huet way back to get out from his contract. I believe we would negotiate a deal with a team where they take over a portion of his contract and we front the rest, but that would be a way around the mutual termination. Loui gets his money and we get rid of him and his cap hit. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/blackhawks/ct-xpm-2010-11-20-chi-101120-cristobal-huet-blackhawks-hersh-story,amp.html&ved=2ahUKEwj_yduVmKHjAhXvUN8KHUlnAngQFjACegQICBAI&usg=AOvVaw3GABueE3LTQNHA-3std1NG&cf=1 That loophole was closed years ago.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: I don’t think Benning’s plan is to have 3rd liners play with BO. I’m hoping he can figure it out and get another top 6 forward into the mix while keeping our 3rd line strong. Let’s see what he does. A 3rd line of Leivo Sutter Virtanen would be ideal. Goldobin is basically insurance for injuries. Gaudette can start in Utica and move into the 3C when Sutter gets his next injury. Eriksson can ride the buses in Utica. So that leaves Basrtschi. Like I said I’d be hesitant to role with him as our top 6 winger with BO. I’d rather seek out other options while we can in the summer. If you think he can be traded with no salary retention then that would be the best case scenario for Benning. If Gaudette starts in the AHL I’ll eat my socks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonny_Bohonos_14 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 4 hours ago, coryberg said: That loophole was closed years ago.... Too bad. Would have been a perfect answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviewonder20 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 4 hours ago, J-Dizzle said: If Gaudette starts in the AHL I’ll eat my socks Cleaned or alter a day at the gym? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamhuis Hip Check Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 31 minutes ago, Lonny_Bohonos_14 said: Too bad. Would have been a perfect answer. I would still do it if it kept him out of utica and no one else wants him, we have enough guys who can fill his role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 11 hours ago, coryberg said: Basically the same games and points as Marcus Johansen over those 2 years. The market showed him to be worth 4.5mil x 2. Baer at 3.36 x2 would be considered bargain. Or a discount for his concussion problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 9 hours ago, rekker said: True. But Rome can be erroneously suspended in the finals in a day. Ugh. If they have Rome and Hamhuis, the Canucks are still here at the end of a rebuild and at the dawn of a new Era. But with a Cup. Damn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 59 minutes ago, Me_ said: Or a discount for his concussion problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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