Alflives Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Wanless said: Why 2 years I see that we are 3 pieces away from competing for playoffs An offensive right side dman that can play top 4 Top line left winger Second line right winger If a miracle happened, and we got EK we are a playoff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Alflives said: If a miracle happened, and we got EK we are a playoff team. Not necessarily, if injuries continue to dog him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 minute ago, NaveJoseph said: Not necessarily, if injuries continue to dog him. EK Edler Hughes Tanev Stecher Hutton Schenn OJ in Utica pushing for a spot. Having a true number one D man makes a big impact on the rest of our D, and their minutes. Yes, injuries would derail our chances for the playoffs for sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 54 minutes ago, ilduce39 said: If we can make Loui float away with a 3rd round pick or B prospect sweetener to a cap floor team and throw that money (plus maybe half a mil more) at Myers I still think that’s the easiest way to get better. If we’re willing to sink that money into another useless player like Lucic, why not spend it on a guy who actually makes our team better at our weakest position? I’d do Loui+3rd for a 9 goal, 30 point 29 year old #4 RHD. I mean, if it's that easy to trade LE, I'm all for it. But I have my doubts. I've been one of the people saying a Lucic + for Eriksson swap would be good for us but obviously Myers would provide more value. I just don't think a LE trade is going to be that simple. Hopefully I'm wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: EK Edler Hughes Tanev Stecher Hutton Schenn OJ in Utica pushing for a spot. Having a true number one D man makes a big impact on the rest of our D, and their minutes. Yes, injuries would derail our chances for the playoffs for sure. Looks like a damn good D corps. There's also the possibility that Tryamkin comes back; not this year, but sooner than later. Signing EK could put us over the threshold of being a playoff team. Our PP would be so much better with EK, Edler, Hughes, and Boeser on the points. I think we should focus on getting a big piece on defense by trade or free agency, and get a forward with the 10th pick of the draft. Getting Boldy could fill our need of a top 6 left winger. There are some good centers with the flexibility of playing wing as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, NaveJoseph said: Looks like a damn good D corps. There's also the possibility that Tryamkin comes back; not this year, but sooner than later. Signing EK could put us over the threshold of being a playoff team. Our PP would be so much better with EK, Edler, Hughes, and Boeser on the points. I think we should focus on getting a big piece on defense by trade or free agency, and get a forward with the 10th pick of the draft. Getting Boldy could fill our need of a top 6 left winger. There are some good centers with the flexibility of playing wing as well. If we could get Trouba here (providing the cost isn’t crazy) I wonder if him playing with Hughes, Demko, Gaudette, and other US guys might get him to extend with us? EK or Trouba would be fantastic for our D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, Alflives said: If a miracle happened, and we got EK we are a playoff team. The problem I have with signing Karlsson is I don't think the team has a legit shot of anything but playoffs, with Karlsson in the lineup, for another 2-4 years, at that point Karlsson would likely be declining. The team is now at a point where using draft picks in trades for players 22-25 is the best option. Use picks from the next three drafts to complete the roster and then go back to filling the cupboards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Alflives said: If we could get Trouba here (providing the cost isn’t crazy) I wonder if him playing with Hughes, Demko, Gaudette, and other US guys might get him to extend with us? EK or Trouba would be fantastic for our D. Trouba would be perfect Dougie Hamilton went for a first and two seconds Trouba would fetch more, possibly Stetcher aAfirst and two seconds is a price I'd pay for a top pairing RHD that is in the same age group as our core Edited June 15, 2019 by Wanless Had Stetcher twice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Just now, Alflives said: If we could get Trouba here (providing the cost isn’t crazy) I wonder if him playing with Hughes, Demko, Gaudette, and other US guys might get him to extend with us? EK or Trouba would be fantastic for our D. Trouba apparently wants to return to the US. Custance says in the past he was connected to the Red Wings. His fiancée is studying in Florida and there's the belief that he would like to either sign with Tampa or Florida. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Wanless said: Trouba would be perfect Dougie Hamilton went for a first and two seconds Trouba would fetch more, possibly Stetcher A first and two seconds plus Stetcher is a price I'd pay for a top pairing RHD that is in the same age group as our core I think Trouba only gets that return if he’s agreed to an extension with us. Otherwise he’s only a rental. Sure would be great to have a top pair of Trouba and Hughes though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Wanless said: The problem I have with signing Karlsson is I don't think the team has a legit shot of anything but playoffs, with Karlsson in the lineup, for another 2-4 years, at that point Karlsson would likely be declining. The team is now at a point where using draft picks in trades for players 22-25 is the best option. Use picks from the next three drafts to complete the roster and then go back to filling the cupboards. Great point. Like acquiring the Troubas, Dumbas, of the NHL. Tough to do but maybe there are teams flush with D and tight to the cap that need to offload a dman for picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, Alflives said: If we could get Trouba here (providing the cost isn’t crazy) I wonder if him playing with Hughes, Demko, Gaudette, and other US guys might get him to extend with us? EK or Trouba would be fantastic for our D. Trouba would be my first choice. RH D, young. If he came with an extension he would be worth the picks. Offer sheet him? Jets have a lot of signing to do and not much space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Alflives said: I think Trouba only gets that return if he’s agreed to an extension with us. Otherwise he’s only a rental. Sure would be great to have a top pair of Trouba and Hughes though. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 31 minutes ago, Alflives said: EK Edler Hughes Tanev Stecher Hutton Schenn OJ in Utica pushing for a spot. Having a true number one D man makes a big impact on the rest of our D, and their minutes. Yes, injuries would derail our chances for the playoffs for sure. Yes injuries would keep us out of the playoffs for sure, just like it has for awhile now. These 2 ensure that. If we field a healthier top 4, our chances go way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 19 hours ago, babalu said: I don't think Meyers is a top pairing guy. Although he's going to be paid like one He’s not a top pairing guy, we dont have a top pairing guy, we pretty much have to spread it around evenly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 10 hours ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: Go on capfriendly.com and check out TO’s cap situation. It might help enlighten 95% of transaction rumours coming out of Toronto. TO is rumored to be looking at Colin Miller who is rhd on a similar contract. Cap reasons aren't the only reason they want to get rid of him. They are look8ng to upgrade because Zaitsev kinda sucks especially for the contract he has. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, rekker said: Zaitsev > Guddy. IMHO Maybe slightly. They play different styles. But Zaitsevs contract is worse. Edited June 15, 2019 by babalu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, mpt said: He’s not a top pairing guy, we dont have a top pairing guy, we pretty much have to spread it around evenly As I said he is going to be paid like a top pair D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I don't get Ghost, just like I don't get Gardiner? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeback_Kings Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: I think that is posturing by the other clubs, and by JB as well As posted above, those teams exceeding cap, will need to be looking for outs Vancouver has excess cap and retention spots So what I see are trades where excess cap teams upgrade with players from teams that are over cap, who do not want to just pack it in Tanev @ 50% will have huge value to a team like Vegas, where they do a slight down grade in talent, but get to keep their talent level near normal These types of trades will need to be made when Vegas starts to squeak Same goes for Toronto, who it appears will be just about totally rebuilding their defense Just like Old News says, wait them out Let's do Andreas Johnsson (LW) + Zaitsev (RHD) + 2020 2nd + 2019 3rd for Baertschi @ 50% + Hutton @ 50% (sign and trade) (3M) + (4.5M) for (1.7M) + (est 1.6M) This saves Toronto 4.2 Million and with no big down grade in play, for a 2020 2nd +2019 3rd This is only an example of the type of trade that I see goes down with these top teams (don't get hooked up in values....I am crappy at it) Just look at the structure of the deal, using our excess cap, and our retention spots It may even have 1st round draft pick value, I don't know, but if it does, great! The other thing is...….I would not just make it to one team, I would make a similar deal with every team I could that needs cap relief, and then wait it out If it happens great! If it doesn't, but I would make it clear to every team, I have multiple offers out and first come first serve I would ask for the extra to be a first, but would take less...don't know how much less 2 X 2's?...…..I don't know. I agree. Canucks management needs to wait it out and weaponize the cap space, not blow their load on expensive ufa's. Edited June 15, 2019 by Comeback_Kings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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