aGENT Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 1 hour ago, oldnews said: Are they (or others) seriously calling them/selves Stanley Cup favorites again? If so, please link - that kind of stuff is always fun to read/here. Aren't you the one who posted the thread on Sportsnet declaring them the most improved Canadian team? I mean they were already Canada's team/perennial playoff/cup favourites... now most improved on top of that!! .... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danmancanuckfan88 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 How about that buffalo D ristolainen for tanev and either one of jake virtanen or goldobin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Haha, no I think it's just a few CDC posters in this thread... The entirety of the Canadian sports media and the GTA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) On 8/12/2019 at 11:49 AM, grandmaster said: As much as I hate the Leafs, I would say those guys are the fav to win the Cup this coming year. They look pretty powerful on paper...just hate the thought of Leaf fans going nuts if they do win Actual odds makers disagree with you by quite a bit: But then....the odds makers don't get lots of things right!! Edited August 14, 2019 by Kanukfanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 11 hours ago, Danmancanuckfan88 said: How about that buffalo D ristolainen for tanev and either one of jake virtanen or goldobin if we can get Ristolainen for Tanev and Goldobin, you do that deal in a heartbeat. i prefer to keep Virtanen if possible. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, N4ZZY said: if we can get Ristolainen for Tanev and Goldobin, you do that deal in a heartbeat. i prefer to keep Virtanen if possible. I would love it if Buffalo would take our scraps for Risto. Tanev is good but oft hurt as everyone knows. Not much value there anymore unfortunately. Goldy is....meh. Come on Buffalo....take them!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: I would love it if Buffalo would take our scraps for Risto. Tanev is good but oft hurt as everyone knows. Not much value there anymore unfortunately. Goldy is....meh. Come on Buffalo....take them!! I think that at this point Ristolainen won't be getting full value due to the mediatization of his current situation. Although I don't personally believe Tanev and Goldobin will get it done, I wouldn't be surprised if a decent package that doesn't involve our important pieces (Bo, Brock, EP, Hughes, Woo, Demko, DiPietro, Podkolzin) could possibly get it done. Tanev solves their RHD situation in the short term, and with a sign-and-trade option it could be a decent move for Buffalo. They need to accept that they won' win with the Risto situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: I think that at this point Ristolainen won't be getting full value due to the mediatization of his current situation. Although I don't personally believe Tanev and Goldobin will get it done, I wouldn't be surprised if a decent package that doesn't involve our important pieces (Bo, Brock, EP, Hughes, Woo, Demko, DiPietro, Podkolzin) could possibly get it done. Tanev solves their RHD situation in the short term, and with a sign-and-trade option it could be a decent move for Buffalo. They need to accept that they won' win with the Risto situation. What RHD situation do they have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorvatToBaertschi Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, theo5789 said: What RHD situation do they have? I meant they acquire a RHD to offset losing Ristolainen, himself a RHD. Risto is by far the better dman but Tanev brings stability on the defensive end of the puck. They also acquired Colin Miller to help that right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 43 minutes ago, HorvatToBaertschi said: I meant they acquire a RHD to offset losing Ristolainen, himself a RHD. Risto is by far the better dman but Tanev brings stability on the defensive end of the puck. They also acquired Colin Miller to help that right side. They have Miller, Montour and Bogosian as RD. Risto doesn't need to be "replaced". They also have Jokiharju that is a right shot D, but he is listed as a LD. I don't see a need for Tanev for them. We do need to move Tanev if we acquire Risto, but I don't think it'll be in this deal. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, theo5789 said: They have Miller, Montour and Bogosian as RD. Risto doesn't need to be "replaced". They also have Jokiharju that is a right shot D, but he is listed as a LD. I don't see a need for Tanev for them. We do need to move Tanev if we acquire Risto, but I don't think it'll be in this deal. I'm surprised that Winnipeg hasn't tried to get Risto.... but then again he's pricey and not all that good in his own end. I'd like to see a Tanev deal with Winnipeg, we could even retain 1/2 Tanev's salary for their 2020 1st and really make it hard to say no to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I'm surprised that Winnipeg hasn't tried to get Risto.... but then again he's pricey and not all that good in his own end. I'd like to see a Tanev deal with Winnipeg, we could even retain 1/2 Tanev's salary for their 2020 1st and really make it hard to say no to. I don't think he's amazing defensively, but I also think his defense was magnified because of how poor Buffalo has been. Something hasn't been right with that team for whatever reason just like Edmonton. They need some veteran stability IMO even if that means overpaying guys for their roles (eg Beagle, etc). The fact that Risto isn't being pushed out and simply wants out despite getting all the prime minutes is pretty telling. Tanev to Winnipeg is a possibility. I'm fine with a 2nd and 3rd/prospect if they don't want to give up their 1st. Much rather take on less "value" and give up the entire cap if possible. If we do add Risto, depending on how much cap is going back the other way, we can't really retain on Tanev as we are close enough to the cap as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, theo5789 said: I don't think he's amazing defensively, but I also think his defense was magnified because of how poor Buffalo has been. Something hasn't been right with that team for whatever reason just like Edmonton. They need some veteran stability IMO even if that means overpaying guys for their roles (eg Beagle, etc). The fact that Risto isn't being pushed out and simply wants out despite getting all the prime minutes is pretty telling. Tanev to Winnipeg is a possibility. I'm fine with a 2nd and 3rd/prospect if they don't want to give up their 1st. Much rather take on less "value" and give up the entire cap if possible. If we do add Risto, depending on how much cap is going back the other way, we can't really retain on Tanev as we are close enough to the cap as it is. maybe something like Virtanen + for Risto, Tanev to Winnipeg? probably too many moving parts but you never know. I suppose some sort of 3 way trade is possible too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: maybe something like Virtanen + for Risto, Tanev to Winnipeg? probably too many moving parts but you never know. I suppose some sort of 3 way trade is possible too. I'd be game. Lot's of pieces to that puzzle to sort out though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, aGENT said: I'd be game. Lot's of pieces to that puzzle to sort out though. You have to think Tanev at a 2.2 mil cap hit would be something quite valuable to Winnipeg, given how weak they are on the right side, and with Buffy inevitably going down to injury at some point too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: You have to think Tanev at a 2.2 mil cap hit would be something quite valuable to Winnipeg, given how weak they are on the right side, and with Buffy inevitably going down to injury at some point too. Unfortunately, we're not presently in a place to retain on him without moving other cap. Tanev at $4.4 is still good value anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 24 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: maybe something like Virtanen + for Risto, Tanev to Winnipeg? probably too many moving parts but you never know. I suppose some sort of 3 way trade is possible too. I've thought about that. I'd prefer to keep Virtanen if possible, but Risto is one of the few available players that I'd consider moving him for. However, I wouldn't give much more than Virtanen for Risto though. If we are to retain on Tanev, we would need some significant cap going back to Buffalo. Or there would have to be another moving part to make it all work out. Assuming Buffalo is looking for another top/middle 6 winger, hopefully someone like Pearson intrigues them and I much rather add a 2nd/Lockwood/Lind-type prospect if they would bite on that. I'd give a 2nd and Lind if they would take Schaller as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuck1991 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Tanev + 2nd rounder or similar prospect like gaudette. Canucks need to get tanev off the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 (edited) I’m still all in for Risto but had another thought. Trade Eriksson and Goldobin for futures to a team like Ottawa and sign Gardiner for 5-6 per year over 3-4 years. Gives us a ton of options on D and gets Eriksson out of town: Edler Myers Hughes Tanev Gardiner Stecher Hughes and Gardiner on PP Edited August 19, 2019 by Kobayashi Maru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 41 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: I’m still all in for Risto but had another thought. Trade Eriksson and Goldobin for futures to a team like Ottawa and sign Gardiner for 5-6 per year over 3-4 years. Gives us a ton of options on D and gets Eriksson out of town: Edler Myers Hughes Tanev Gardiner Stecher Hughes and Gardiner on PP Yuck. Benn is a far better option than a defenseman who can't play defense, especially giving Gardiner any kind of term. That pylon would quickly turn into another Eriksson. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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