Rob_Zepp Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Dazzle said: No. Why should Colorado give all their picks for a position they don't really need filled? ...because it is summer and it is CDC...... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18W-40C-6W Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Live like a Canuck! said: First, I love Bo Horvat, But I think I would trade for Colorados' First round picks: 4, 16 and their 2nd second(47) for Bo Horvat. Colorado is ready now to make a push now. Vancouver needs more quality and depth. This would give us more completion for the rebuild. What do you think? Does it make sense for both sides? Horvat for Makar, #4 and #47 At a minimum, else good bye... click Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18W-40C-6W Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dazzle said: No. Why should Colorado give all their picks for a position they don't really need filled? Colorado needs a true 2c, its well known. I would never want to see him traded but the 'idea' of them wanting him is plausible given their hole there (most teams would want Bo, but you get my point). Only thing that would make me 'consider' it as JB, is, Makar #4 and their 2nd. Then you have to think long and hard. Not sure Colorado would make that move though Edited June 17, 2019 by 18W-40C-6W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 47 minutes ago, 18W-40C-6W said: Colorado needs a true 2c, its well known. I would never want to see him traded but the 'idea' of them wanting him is plausible given their hole there (most teams would want Bo, but you get my point). Only thing that would make me 'consider' it as JB, is, Makar #4 and their 2nd. Then you have to think long and hard. Not sure Colorado would make that move though Colorado hangs up immediately. Imo, Horvat is untradeable because his value to us is far above his value to other teams. This creates a gap that can't be filled. Vancouver would want an insane haul for him that no rational GM would accept. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Seannnp Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, MrCanuck94 said: Doubt Horvat gets their 4th overall alone. Perhaps Horvat + 10th for 4th overall, which doesn't make sense for us. Neither team does a trade around these centre pieces. Horvat gets you the 4th and then some. Why? Because of where Colorado is positioned. Horvat doesn't get you the 5th from LA alone though. The 5th means more to LA then Horvat who likely is in his 30's before they are ready to compete again. Colorado, becomes a favorite in the west and don't give up a roster spot. Colorado is not rebuilding, they are primed to compete and have the necessary pieces in place to make a run. Their biggest need is a 2c. Adding Horvat for their 4th, 16th, and 2nd round pick is something they jump all over. I'd personally want more if I am even thinking about moving the heart and soul of this team. Personally would not do it but if you can potentially get: Byram, Krebs, Seider, Korczak, and Thomspon in one draft, you have to give it some serious thought. Just for fun: Trade Eriksson, grab Lucic without sending over salary and maybe a prospect for 8th OA. You now have 4th, 8th (Boldy), 10th, 16th, and two 2nds. In two years the Canucks are competing for the cup if all hit their ceilings Now think of all the possibilities with 4 1sts, 2nd 2nds. Trade down on the 8th and 10th OA for 11th and 12th and grab two more 2nd rounder's. OH EM GEE we now have 4 1sts and 4 2nds....Byram, Krebs, Newhook, Seider, Korczak, Thompson, Foote, Grewe along with Pettersson, Boeser, Hughes, Demko, Woo, Madden, Gaudette, Virtanen, Trymakin Sorry got carried away. Too bad we don't have a GM that is aggressive in the trade market. Still gotta love JB with how things turned out. HORVAT for CAPTAIN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 2 hours ago, HerrDrFunk said: Or we could just keep Bo, draft at number 10, and get one of the guys ranked 4th to 16th. But where's the fun in that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live like a Canuck! Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, VegasCanuck said: Why do some fans want us to be in a perpetual rebuild. As soon as we get a player performing and entering their prime, its....hey, let's trade him for draft picks and roll the dice again! Guaranteed player, performing in the NHL at a good level, ALWAYS trumps a draft pick where you have no guarantees. Because, our 10th pick in this years draft will likely not mature for 2 more seasons. To me, It makes sense to have our team mature together. Plus as I already stated; we dont have enough depth. Getting 2 to 3 players for one gives us much better opportunity; should we think this years draft depth offerings makes sense. And having a possible 3-5 players ready at the same tine in 2-3years would be impactful. My philosophy... we should never be in the position of a "full" rebuild, But ownership and previous management ficked-up... Building should be in a continious flux to improve, maintain and leverage for best opportunity while being in contention. Ideally, always a minimum of being in the playoffs. Just my two cents.. Edited June 17, 2019 by Live like a Canuck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Live like a Canuck! said: First, I love Bo Horvat, But I think I would trade for Colorados' First round picks: 4, 16 and their 2nd second(47) for Bo Horvat. Colorado is ready now to make a push now. Vancouver needs more quality and depth. This would give us more completion for the rebuild. What do you think? Does it make sense for both sides? So you joined 4 years ago and waited until today to make a proposal to trade off the next Canuck captain? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live like a Canuck! Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, sonoman said: So you joined 4 years ago and waited until today to make a proposal to trade off the next Canuck captain? No, Although I did not start too many threads, I did make others prior to this one. I see no relevance to your line of questioning though? What are you trying to suggest by remarking that I did not start a thread in 4 years? My previous account had been lost. Edited June 17, 2019 by Live like a Canuck! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 48 minutes ago, Live like a Canuck! said: Because, our 10th pick in this years draft will likely not mature for 2 more seasons. To me, It makes sense to have our team mature together. Plus as I already stated; we dont have enough depth. Getting 2 to 3 players for one gives us much better opportunity; should we think this years draft depth offerings makes sense. And having a possible 3-5 players ready at the same tine in 2-3years would be impactful. My philosophy... we should never be in the position of a "full" rebuild, But ownership and previous management ficked-up... Building should be in a continious flux to improve, maintain and leverage for best opportunity while being in contention. Ideally, always a minimum of being in the playoffs. Just my two cents.. We aren't ready for that type of trade. We need to start competing this year and showing improvement. I don't mean competing for the cup, but we should be in the neighborhood of making the playoffs next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Their 4, 16, 47 picks (may be add another prospect which they have a bunch of) could probably net them someone like Kopitar, Getzlaf, Giroux.. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Qwags said: But where's the fun in that? bo, in vancouver, is fun to watch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I hope Pettersson can take 2,000 draws next season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Drakrami said: Their 4, 16, 47 picks (may be add another prospect which they have a bunch of) could probably net them someone like Kopitar, Getzlaf, Giroux.. lol. Getzlaf and Giroux are past their best before dates. Kopitar is still great, but he’s getting older too. The picks have more value than those three guys by a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 3 hours ago, 18W-40C-6W said: Horvat for Makar, #4 and #47 At a minimum, else good bye... click Colorado would laugh their asses off. Bo is valuable. But that is excessive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Is it October yet? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Is it October yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18W-40C-6W Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Colorado would laugh their asses off. Bo is valuable. But that is excessive he's a 24 yr old 2 way all star center who's good at ALL parts of the game from Offense to Defence to faceoffs, special teams and has size aka Ryan O'Reilly/Bergeron lite....and on a very friendly contract, that's his value High quality prospect, first and a 2nd I think you're underrating his value or a player of similar ilk in the league. Whether Colorado would ever pay that, I doubt it but that doesn't change the value of a player such as him around the league Edited June 18, 2019 by 18W-40C-6W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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