Squamfan Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Bure_Pavel said: They are pretty much one right now F the Green party 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solinar Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 we need refineries....and then the pipelines to get the material to those refineries. We shot ourselves in the foot as a country by not investing in more refineries in the first place. Then people are sold that all we need is pipelines....ugh 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fateless Posted June 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2019 Its unbelievable how much misinformation there is surrounding the TMX Pipeline. So many people think there is a direct correlation between the pipeline being built and decreased gas prices. That is completely fabricated and wishful thinking. Just like everyone blamed the carbon tax for the recent fuel price hike, even though its now returning to its lower prices despite the exact same carbon tax remaining in place. The fact is that the oil and refined products coming through the TMX Pipeline is not designed for Canadian consumption. It is for foreign export. There is no significant benefit to British Columbia, yet British Columbia has to accept all the risk. Most of the jobs for the construction are temporary. Canada would be far better off spending the money it spent on the TMX Pipeline and investing it into renewable infrastructure to create permanent long-term solutions for the economy and ecosystem. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Squamfan said: F the Green party yeah who needs clean air, amirtie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, Fateless said: Its unbelievable how much misinformation there is surrounding the TMX Pipeline. So many people think there is a direct correlation between the pipeline being built and decreased gas prices. That is completely fabricated and wishful thinking. Just like everyone blamed the carbon tax for the recent fuel price hike, even though its now returning to its lower prices despite the exact same carbon tax remaining in place. The fact is that the oil and refined products coming through the TMX Pipeline is not designed for Canadian consumption. It is for foreign export. There is no significant benefit to British Columbia, yet British Columbia has to accept all the risk. Most of the jobs for the construction are temporary. Canada would be far better off spending the money it spent on the TMX Pipeline and investing it into renewable infrastructure to create permanent long-term solutions for the economy and ecosystem. well Alberta is spending millions on newspaper and radio ads that are complete bull $&!#. So money well spent? Its the same thing with the "turn off the taps" legislation. Its not to turn off the taps, its to send 100% bitumen for export and totally cut us off if they could for the export market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solinar Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Fateless said: Its unbelievable how much misinformation there is surrounding the TMX Pipeline. So many people think there is a direct correlation between the pipeline being built and decreased gas prices. That is completely fabricated and wishful thinking. Just like everyone blamed the carbon tax for the recent fuel price hike, even though its now returning to its lower prices despite the exact same carbon tax remaining in place. The fact is that the oil and refined products coming through the TMX Pipeline is not designed for Canadian consumption. It is for foreign export. There is no significant benefit to British Columbia, yet British Columbia has to accept all the risk. Most of the jobs for the construction are temporary. Canada would be far better off spending the money it spent on the TMX Pipeline and investing it into renewable infrastructure to create permanent long-term solutions for the economy and ecosystem. We need the money to get to that, which we could have gotten from the oil industry if we had invested the money received from it wisely. Instead, boom or bust, baby! Now we'll be left with all the clean up, none of the money, and the pain of having to transition to a differing energy platform without the benefits of having one industry quietly and smartly phase into another. Of course, that would require leadership, insight, and intelligence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: well Alberta is spending millions on newspaper and radio ads that are complete bull $&!#. So money well spent? Its the same thing with the "turn off the taps" legislation. Its not to turn off the taps, its to send 100% bitumen for export and totally cut us off if they could for the export market. kind of like the environmental groups and US interests have done...... 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trans-mountain-pipeline-expansion-gets-second-green-light-from-ottawa-1.4471048 Officially approved 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 TMX approved, @DonLever might be time to change the title Good to see it. Usually something called a "Grand Bargain" wouldn't have worked out, but seems to be like the carbon tax will be (decently) effective, while the expansion will be built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Stelar said: kind of like the environmental groups and US interests have done...... Sure, but its differnet when its a province lying to another isn't it? is to me anyway. Regardless, Trudeau just approved it so it should be happy days in AB. But they won't give him any credit, none. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Just now, Shift-4 said: https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/trans-mountain-pipeline-expansion-gets-second-green-light-from-ottawa-1.4471048 Officially approved Approved for about one minute then the new lawsuits start again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I wonder how Albertans will turn this into even more hate for Trudeau? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, BPA said: From the Transmountain website... The existing pipeline will carry refined products, synthetic crude oils, and light crude oils with the capability for heavy crude oils The new pipeline will carry heavier oils with the capability for transporting light crude oils. So again... how does a new pipeline reduce gas prices? Cause now we have more of it when it gets built and then finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: Sure, but its differnet when its a province lying to another isn't it? is to me anyway. Regardless, Trudeau just approved it so it should be happy days in AB. But they won't give him any credit, none. Still not convinced it is a done deal. Just looking forward to see the meltdown from @kingofsurrey I'm sure it will include his usual unoriginal rants about big trucks, cowboys, etc..... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Stelar said: Still not convinced it is a done deal. Just looking forward to see the meltdown from @kingofsurrey I'm sure it will include his usual unoriginal rants about big trucks, cowboys, etc..... man you guys in Calgary are a suspicious bunch. This is going to kill Trudeau at the polls in BC, he wouldn't do that if it wasn't a done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted June 18, 2019 Author Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 hours ago, peaches5 said: It's not the NDP it's the Green party. The NDP has shifted policies from protecting workers to protecting the environment in the last 20 years. In the past the NDP has depended on unions like the IWA and the Steel Workers. The NDP is no longer a working class union party that focus on the trades but more a urban focused party that get its support from public unions and special interest groups. The dichotomy of the NDP is who to serve; the intellectual elites vs the working class. Basically the NDP is betraying its roots by stopping mega projects that hired unionized workers. So not surprisingly, in every election, not all blue collar people vote for the NDP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Which pipeline just got the go ahead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boeserker Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 And now for some Canadian Content.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckfromlangley Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 How come almost all the oil going through the pipeline now is sold to the USA? According to everyone it's stupid to sell it at a discount to the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: man you guys in Calgary are a suspicious bunch. This is going to kill Trudeau at the polls in BC, he wouldn't do that if it wasn't a done deal. Trudeau doesn’t need BC to get re-elected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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