stawns Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 52 minutes ago, Warhippy said: If we really want an RHD why not shop Boeser to Minni for Dumb and this years first? If Boeser is going to want north of $7 million....addition by subtraction Add Dumba and Seider/Broberg or whoever is available at 11. Go ahead, flame me. But I just don't see the point in parting with the assets it will require to nab Barrie, or Ristolianen, or move up to 6th. This is the year where Benning needs to sit on his hands and just shut up. not jump the gun. I've been on the move Boeser train for awhile now. It's not a dislike of BB, it's just that he's one dimensional and he's going to insist on being paid like a superstar........ something if prefer the Canucks avoid with him. I don't believe he will be good value for the $ he's going to get and he could bring in a legit top 2 dman, such as Dumba. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 18 minutes ago, timberz21 said: We need good defensemen first to get into the playoffs, before making any impact at all. Didn't preven Torey Krug having a pretty good palyoffs True, but how did the Blues defencemen do relative? For every small defenceman that does well, there's probably 5 to 10 defencemen that do the job as well or better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian42 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Dumba & zucker for Boeser Tanev Virtanen prospect big upgrade on D, Zucker can fill most of Boeser and we can easily sign another top 6 UFA. Highly unlikely but but would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, timberz21 said: We need good defensemen first to get into the playoffs, before making any impact at all. Didn't preven Torey Krug having a pretty good palyoffs Compared to whom? the blues d crushed everyone in their path ill go so far as to say that Robert bartuzzo impacted games as much as Krug did. im not interested in an 82 game d core. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, theo5789 said: GMs around the league will say this to up the trade value for their competition to acquire. Zucker has been publicly "dealt" twice already. The longer this drags out, the worse it gets for Minni. Do you think Minnesota can play hardball and have Zucker on the team to start the season? Fenton says that Zucker understands it's a business - he spoke to both him and his agent. He also says that it's incorrect to presume that he absolutely wants to move him. The Wild have too many left wingers. They only have 1 right shot in their top-9. Fenton confirmed he is looking for a scoring right-shot either by trade or free agency. Zucker is really their only trade chip. The other Fs were just added and are still young - Fiala, Donato, Greenway, Kunin are still developing and part of their future. Parise has a NMC and a recapture contract. Staal and Koivu are slowing down. Rask has no trade value. Edited June 20, 2019 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, mll said: Will Barrie want to extend in Edmonton and do they have the cap space. Holland talks of how they only have 3 top-6 Fs - RNH, Draisaitl and McDavid. He says either RNH or Draisaitl will play C2 and the other will be on wing. They are apparently looking to move a D to create room for Ds coming up through their system. Mcdavid #1 and Leon #2 is a strong as it gets down the middle. They will need to be able to spread out the offense. With marody, Yamamoto and benson developing well in the A and potentially a ufa signing. (Aka Connolly type) they should be able to find enough weapons to support the two offensive lines. With persson making the move over they have too many players on the back end, so they should look at moving D. Russell, sekera and manning are expendable. Benning is even being rumored to be available. But I also heard Holland like sekera and see’s him as a kronwall type vet. As far as resigning him they should be able to. Gagner and manning are gone next year opening up 5.5 mil. Then Russell and sekera come off the books the year later along with pouliots buy out giving them another 11 mill in space. And really nurse is the only current player due for a big raise in the next two years. Edited June 20, 2019 by ForsbergTheGreat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Rebuild is over we’re buying players with one year left on their contracts :s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gaudette Celly Posted June 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2019 26 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: barrie is another shrimp D man and that is not what this teams needs imo. I hope this does not happen. Dude put up 57 and 59 points the last two seasons. Yeah, he is exactly what this team needs. Edler - Barrie Hughes - Stralman Juolevi (Hutton) - Stecher Radically different D. Mobile and can move the puck, plus put up points. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, HKSR said: True, but how did the Blues defencemen do relative? For every small defenceman that does well, there's probably 5 to 10 defencemen that do the job as well or better. Of course bigger is always better....but those are limited quantities and comes with a hefty price tag. You might have to wait until Petterson is 35 years old until you find one. Nashville is labelled as one of the best defense corpse in the league, yet they have 1 guy that's above 6'01". I don't think there is a model to follow, just build your team with the resources available to you and create your own identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dombrova22 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: No thanks. As a rebuilding club we should not downgrade the 1st round pick when we know the top 12 prospects are a level above the rest. Plus we don't need another shrimp. If that offer was for Risto I would do it. -41 Risto or -3 Barrie. I'm taking Barrie everytime. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: Rebuild is over we’re buying players with one year left on their contracts :s wake me up if/when it happens, otherwise don't believe everything you hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Just now, Dombrova22 said: -41 Risto or -3 Barrie. I'm taking Barrie everytime. you make deals based on plus/minus alone, you might want to apprentice as a fantasy assistant GM first 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Dude put up 57 and 59 points the last two seasons. Yeah, he is exactly what this team needs. Edler - Barrie Hughes - Stralman Juolevi (Hutton) - Stecher Radically different D. Mobile and can move the puck, plus put up points. I agree, and Colorado has lots in the pipeline, wonder what this takes though to make happen. Not going to be cheap, would think it starts with the #10 OA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: Mcdavid #1 and Leon #2 is a strong as it gets down the middle. They will need to be able to spread out the offense. With marody, Yamamoto and benson developing well in the A and potentially a ufa signing. (Aka Connolly) the should be able to find enough weapons to support two offensive lines. With persson making the move over they have to many player on the back end so They should look at moving D. Russell, sekera and manning are expendable. Benning is even being rumored to be available. But I also heard Holland like sekera and see’s him as a kronwall type vet. as far as resigning they should be able to. Gagner and manning are gone next year opening up 5.5 mil. Then Russell and sekera come off the books the year later along with pouliots buy out giving them another 11 mill in space. And really nurse if the only player due for a big raise in the next two years. Holland wants to build a contender for the long term. They are not 1 player away. In Detroit he was also forced to hand out unreasonable contracts because they had no one coming. Can't see him putting himself in that situation. Sakic in May said he was going to talk to Barrie about an extension - for him to be now available suggest that they don't agree on the numbers. Holland needs players that want to be in Edmonton and not end up overpaying them to retain them. He also needs more players coming up through the system. If they want Barrie they can always try next year in free agency rather than give up an asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awalk Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Hell yeah, great player. Would be a fantastic addition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dombrova22 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, oldnews said: you make deals based on plus/minus alone, you might want to apprentice as a fantasy assistant GM first Lmfao, Barrie is an amazing player, puts up points and is good defensively. Risto is criticized BADLY for being TERRIBLE defensively, do you really think that's what we need? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian42 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dombrova22 said: -41 Risto or -3 Barrie. I'm taking Barrie everytime. More points too, perfect fit with Edler IMO and awesome for the PP. Edited June 20, 2019 by brian42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dombrova22 said: woosh. Edited June 20, 2019 by oldnews 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, riffraff said: Compared to whom? the blues d crushed everyone in their path ill go so far as to say that Robert bartuzzo impacted games as much as Krug did. im not interested in an 82 game d core. Here we go again, because the Blues won...that's the only recipe for success? We'll never win the cup if all we're trying to do is copy last's cup winner. We need to create our own identity. We need to target good players that we want and are available and try to improve our team. Of course you need a mix of size, grit, physicality but you also need speed, skill, puck movement. Since 2011, our biggest weakness and reason for lack of scoring have come from a lack of puck-movement and skill on our back-end. Adding a guy like Barrie would sure not hurt. Edited June 20, 2019 by timberz21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sampy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Hutton, 10th overall for Barrie and the 16th overall. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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