JJP Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 With Edler signed we have roughly 23.5 mil left in our cap space. Sign Boeser for 7~8 mil Sign Leivo for 2~3 mil Sign Goldy for 1 mil Sign Schenn for 1.5 mil We are left with roughly 10~10.5 mil If we sign or trade for a top 4 d men for roughly 7~8 mil what is our plan for adding a top 6 forward granted we have about 2 mil to spend? Those numbers are all loosely projected numbers, but I am not sure how we can improve the forward group with those numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nuxfanabroad Posted June 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2019 No NEEED to pursue 11 million $ pajama boys. Build this nice, cohesive group, & leave cap open for rainy day larcenies(like Leivo for Carcone) Patience is in order. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, JJP said: With Edler signed we have roughly 23.5 mil left in our cap space. Sign Boeser for 7~8 mil Sign Leivo for 2~3 mil Sign Goldy for 1 mil Sign Schenn for 1.5 mil We are left with roughly 10~10.5 mil If we sign or trade for a top 4 d men for roughly 7~8 mil what is our plan for adding a top 6 forward granted we have about 2 mil to spend? Those numbers are all loosely projected numbers, but I am not sure how we can improve the forward group with those numbers Do the math and subtract the outgoing contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJP Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 minute ago, spur1 said: Do the math and subtract the outgoing contracts Which contracts are you referring to..? We're not even sure if we're unloading Sutter or Baertschi at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, JJP said: Which contracts are you referring to..? We're not even sure if we're unloading Sutter or Baertschi at this point. We have to see what comes back for Tanev and then perhaps we can ship off Spooner and Schaller to Ottawa for a draft pick, and by this I mean we would pay a draft pick, which will clear up some space. And then we're still waiting to see what JB does with LE. Edited June 20, 2019 by aliboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the grinder Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 we wait for a erhoff for white kinda of deals there will be plenty of deals going around soon 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, JJP said: With Edler signed we have roughly 23.5 mil left in our cap space. Sign Boeser for 7~8 mil Sign Leivo for 2~3 mil Sign Goldy for 1 mil Sign Schenn for 1.5 mil We are left with roughly 10~10.5 mil If we sign or trade for a top 4 d men for roughly 7~8 mil what is our plan for adding a top 6 forward granted we have about 2 mil to spend? Those numbers are all loosely projected numbers, but I am not sure how we can improve the forward group with those numbers And then figure, Eriksson will be going somewhere, even it its Utica, but even in that scenario, we save roughly 1 million off cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, JJP said: Which contracts are you referring to..? We're not even sure if we're unloading Sutter or Baertschi at this point. For every player that is added there will be a player leaving. You are talking of adding 2 players. So it stands to reason there will be 2 leaving. Witch means there will be more than 2 mil left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJP Posted June 20, 2019 Author Share Posted June 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, spur1 said: For every player that is added there will be a player leaving. You are talking of adding 2 players. So it stands to reason there will be 2 leaving. Witch means there will be more than 2 mil left. That's Hutton (Unsigned at this moment) and Pouliot both won't effect salary cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, spur1 said: For every player that is added there will be a player leaving. You are talking of adding 2 players. So it stands to reason there will be 2 leaving. Witch means there will be more than 2 mil left. How is that a given? Signing someone via FA or trading draft picks/ELCs (of players likely to start in Utica) would not increase cap space. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, JJP said: Which contracts are you referring to..? We're not even sure if we're unloading Sutter or Baertschi at this point. Zero chance you’re getting a top 4 D via trade without a major piece going the other way (I don’t see Benning moving out any 1st rounders & 2nd round picks will get you rentals of dubious value at the trade deadline). Non blue chip guys (blue chip I mean guys like Woo or better) won’t get you a top 4 D. This means a major Canuck roster player (a guy like Granlund will get you a 3rd pairing guy). Edited June 20, 2019 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: Zero chance you’re getting a top 4 D via trade without a major piece going the other way (I don’t see Benning moving out any 1st rounders & 2nd round picks will get you rentals of dubious value at the trade deadline). Non blue chip guys (blue chip I mean guys like Woo or better) won’t get you a top 4 D. This means a major Canuck roster player (a guy like Granlund will get you a 3rd pairing guy). Zero chance? There is some teams that have "Zero Chance" that they can keep the players they currently have on their roster given salary cap restraints. I think you should rethink your "zero chance" theory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 37 minutes ago, JJP said: That's Hutton (Unsigned at this moment) and Pouliot both won't effect salary cap Pouliot isn't coming back, he's done in Vancouver. I doubt we qualify Hutton, due to arbitration rights, and the scary comparable contract that was recently signed, so we try to sign him to something reasonable or he's also gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rob_Zepp Posted June 20, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, JJP said: Canucks Cap Situation 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Zepp Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, JJP said: With Edler signed we have roughly 23.5 mil left in our cap space. Sign Boeser for 7~8 mil Sign Leivo for 2~3 mil Sign Goldy for 1 mil Sign Schenn for 1.5 mil We are left with roughly 10~10.5 mil If we sign or trade for a top 4 d men for roughly 7~8 mil what is our plan for adding a top 6 forward granted we have about 2 mil to spend? Those numbers are all loosely projected numbers, but I am not sure how we can improve the forward group with those numbers This is the summeriest summer ever on CDC - and it is officially not summer in Canada for another 9 hours in the west. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, EdgarM said: Zero chance? There is some teams that have "Zero Chance" that they can keep the players they currently have on their roster given salary cap restraints. I think you should rethink your "zero chance" theory. Ok, Jim Carey type of chance. It’s my opinion that teams will sacrifice elsewhere in their lineup than weaken their blueline without getting something major in return. Edited June 20, 2019 by NewbieCanuckFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, JJP said: With Edler signed we have roughly 23.5 mil left in our cap space. Sign Boeser for 7~8 mil Sign Leivo for 2~3 mil Sign Goldy for 1 mil Sign Schenn for 1.5 mil We are left with roughly 10~10.5 mil If we sign or trade for a top 4 d men for roughly 7~8 mil what is our plan for adding a top 6 forward granted we have about 2 mil to spend? Those numbers are all loosely projected numbers, but I am not sure how we can improve the forward group with those numbers What about Hutton and Motte? The $23mil on 21 contracts means we only add 2 more, and that some of the above replace others. For example, Leivo could replace Schaller directly, so could be zero cost. Likewise Schenn for Sautner adds less than $1mil. We could put Motte or Goldy in for Spooner and send him to the minors, which is near-scratch. Likewise any UFAs replace one of those 21 so you have to subtract them out, not net add. So add Boeser and Hutton for $11mil and you have $12mil to spend, and subtract the salary of those the UFA(s) replace. Edited June 20, 2019 by Hutton Wink 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 19 minutes ago, aliboy said: Pouliot isn't coming back, he's done in Vancouver. I doubt we qualify Hutton, due to arbitration rights, and the scary comparable contract that was recently signed, so we try to sign him to something reasonable or he's also gone. Not really a scary comparable at all..? Edler's a vet and leader on this team, was +3 last year playing over 24 mins a game, signed a short term contract which usually means a slight bump in pay. Outscored Hutton 2:1. Hutton showed some progress last year after regression following his rookie year, but not really enough to warrant a huge bump in pay. Good guy and likable but doesn't bring the same intangibles as a 13 year Canuck vet. -23 playing 22 mins a game and put up just over half the points Edler did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 (edited) 20 minutes ago, 'NucK™ said: Not really a scary comparable at all..? Edler's a vet and leader on this team, was +3 last year playing over 24 mins a game, signed a short term contract which usually means a slight bump in pay. Outscored Hutton 2:1. Hutton showed some progress last year after regression following his rookie year, but not really enough to warrant a huge bump in pay. Good guy and likable but doesn't bring the same intangibles as a 13 year Canuck vet. -23 playing 22 mins a game and put up just over half the points Edler did. Edler's contract is not the comparable for Hutton, and yes it is a scary situation, or a situation to avoid, we don't want to end up with an overpaid defenceman. This explains the problem. https://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Carol-Schram/Will-Esa-Lindells-58-million-cap-hit-impact-RFA-Ben-Huttons-next-deal/194/99539 Also, the Ottawa GM has gone on record as saying they aren't going to be very active on July 1st, so read in between the lines and they might be open to taking some contracts, for the right price. Edited June 20, 2019 by aliboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 39 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: What about Hutton and Motte? The $23mil on 21 contracts means we only add 2 more, and that some of the above replace others. For example, Leivo could replace Schaller directly, so could be zero cost. Likewise Schenn for Sautner adds less than $1mil. We could put Motte or Goldy in for Spooner and send him to the minors, which is near-scratch. Likewise any UFAs replace one of those 21 so you have to subtract them out, not net add. So add Boeser and Hutton for $11mil and you have $12mil to spend, and subtract the salary of those the UFA(s) replace. So you want us to sign Hutton for how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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