stawns Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, aGENT said: But what about what's his na...? I forgot about Jake, who had a solid, though under the radar year while he was in Utica. His time there really rounded out his game nicely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Pod got 1 shift for 30 seconds in today’s game (his 4th game of the season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 I doubt there's much to freak out about yet. At this point, the experience of being around a top pro team and players is just as valuable for his development as playing time is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 Maybe they do things differently in Russia? Podkolzin is still a kid basically, and playing with the big boys. Even if he can keep up and play well, the coach may want to keep him hungry for those precious minutes, taking full advantage every time he's on the ice. There's probably a lot of vetean players on the team as well, and they might feel seniority plays a role. Podkolzin will need to bide his time, watching and learning from the bench, and then giving full effort when he gets his shot. I have no concerns with his development. He could play in the NHL this year, if he was allowed. If anything, this Russia coach is pi**ing him off and that might make him more hungry for the NHL. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Pod got 1 shift for 30 seconds in today’s game (his 4th game of the season). Could this also be partly Podz paying his dues. Russian coaches are notorious for shying away from using young players? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, dpn1 said: Could this also be partly Podz paying his dues. Russian coaches are notorious for shying away from using young players? I'd say that's exactly what it is. He's a kid playing in a men's pro league........he's not going to get many mins at the best of times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted September 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, dpn1 said: Could this also be partly Podz paying his dues. Russian coaches are notorious for shying away from using young players? Definitely. I’ve never really tried to suggest otherwise. It’s highly unusual for a player as young as Podkolzin to make a KHL roster, especially one as deep as SKA. The low minutes aren’t really a concern, especially this early in the season. If he can stick around, get into practices, and pick up occasional game minutes, he can get a lot of good development where he is. Otherwise, a VHL loan will give him plenty of icetime, but we’re far from that point, and I expect Pod will slowly gain more trust and see his role and minutes increase as the season progresses. He also may get a jumpstart into a larger role if/when injuries occur. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 hours ago, stawns said: Utica also hasn't had top prospects, aside from Demko who they developed nicely Chicken or egg scenario i guess. Theres a pretty big list of promising prospects that havent flourished in utica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Definitely. I’ve never really tried to suggest otherwise. It’s highly unusual for a player as young as Podkolzin to make a KHL roster, especially one as deep as SKA. The low minutes aren’t really a concern, especially this early in the season. If he can stick around, get into practices, and pick up occasional game minutes, he can get a lot of good development where he is. Otherwise, a VHL loan will give him plenty of icetime, but we’re far from that point, and I expect Pod will slowly gain more trust and see his role and minutes increase as the season progresses. He also may get a jumpstart into a larger role if/when injuries occur. Maybe Russians hate Vancouver and because he's a Canucks draft pick, he's blacklisted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 47 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Chicken or egg scenario i guess. Theres a pretty big list of promising prospects that havent flourished in utica. How many of them are considered top, or even moderately highly touted prospects? Not msny, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, stawns said: How many of them are considered top, or even moderately highly touted prospects? Not msny, that's for sure. Lind was a 2nd rd pick that could have easily been taken late in the 1st and put up similar numbers to Cody Glass in his draft +1. Dahlen was a relatively highly touted prospect, although I'd say his issues stem from his attitude more than anything. Gadj was a 2nd rounder. Gaunce was a 1st rounder. And there are a handful of guys that, while not super highly touted prospects, still looked like they could blossom into NHLers. While it's still too early to write a lot of them off, I can't imagine guys like Brisebois or Chatfield making much of an impact at this point. Every team has one or two guys not picked in the 1st rd that have developed into key contributors.Hell, look at our cup run team. Bieksa, Burrows, Raymond, Edler, Hansen, Tanev. All guys that we're either picked outside the 1st rd or not drafted at all that turned into key contributors for us. We have to start hitting the mark on some of these guys or we'll be doomed to overpaying for free agents or coughing up more assets than we should to fill those roles for a long time. Edited September 10, 2019 by 48MPHSlapShot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stierlitz Posted September 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 10, 2019 1 hour ago, theo5789 said: Maybe Russians hate Vancouver and because he's a Canucks draft pick, he's blacklisted! Well, Podkolzin is not just some promising young player - he is a leader for U20 Russian national junior team and the Russian Hockey Federation is monitoring his development closely to make sure he is in the best shape for the coming world junior championship. In Russia, unlike Canada, national teams have much higher priority comparing to the KHL clubs. Even KHL schedule may be changed to accommodate the national team needs for the world championships. 1 1 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taskicon Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 The obstacle is the way. Anything he has to struggle through will only make him a better and stronger player. If he was gifted time he wouldn't be developing. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stierlitz Posted September 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) Interesting and exciting news: Igor Larionov is appointed as advisor to Roman Rotenberg, the first vice-president of the Russian Hockey Federation. This is official position and Larionov is no longer the agent for hockey players. His main scope of responsibilities - to monitor and help national junior teams in their development. Larionov said that his first big tournament is going to be the next U20 world junior championship in Czech Rep. This is one of major events in the world hockey for this season. Igor is going to be very busy in next three months watching and monitoring promising young Russian players on both sides of Atlantic ocean. He has a lot of work ahead. Igor has been offered job with the Russian Hockey Federation many times and finally he has accepted one. I think this is good news for Vasily Podkolzin as well Edited September 11, 2019 by Stierlitz 1 3 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I love this prospect. Hes got the heart of a lion and is a coaches dream. I think he will be a 60 point 2 way beast in his prime, if he can avoid the injury bug. He plays will reckless abandon on some plays which is awesome but also scary. I think our window to win the cup starts in 2 years when this guy arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 hours ago, stawns said: I doubt there's much to freak out about yet. At this point, the experience of being around a top pro team and players is just as valuable for his development as playing time is. I agree. As long as hes learning, which he definitely is being around one of the best teams in the KHL. Im happy as long as he destroys the world juniors, which im confident he will. Its just kind of weird how he played so well in that 10 minute game, but has barely played since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, Stierlitz said: Interesting and exciting news: Igor Larionov is appointed as advisor to Roman Rotenberg, the first vice-president of the Russian Hockey Federation. This is official position and Larionov is no longer the agent for hockey players. His main scope of responsibilities - to monitor and help national junior teams in their development. Larionov said that his first big tournament is going to be the next U20 world junior championship in Czech Rep. This is one of major events in the world hockey for this season. Igor is going to be very busy in next three months watching and monitoring promising young Russian players on both sides of Atlantic ocean. He has a lot of work ahead. Igor has been offered job with the Russian Hockey Federation many times and finally he has accepted one. I think this is good news for Vasily Podkolzin as well Awesome...........Larionov was my favourite part of the Cold War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 5 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Pod got 1 shift for 30 seconds in today’s game (his 4th game of the season). I’m trying NOT to read too much into this,. but this IS odd,. he should be getting at least 5 to ten mins a game for the first month of the season at this level of hockey. This has to improve within 2 months, otherwise his development is hampered. I realize this is only his 4th game,. But it is strange. Kid must be about to lose his mind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 3 hours ago, SilentSam said: I’m trying NOT to read too much into this,. but this IS odd,. he should be getting at least 5 to ten mins a game for the first month of the season at this level of hockey. This has to improve within 2 months, otherwise his development is hampered. I realize this is only his 4th game,. But it is strange. Kid must be about to lose his mind. It's odd for a teenager to get minimal ice time in a top 5 men's pro League to start his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, stawns said: It's odd for a teenager to get minimal ice time in a top 5 men's pro League to start his career? I think he's saying 5-10 mins is minimal ice time, not 40 secs.. Russian coaches though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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