WeneedLumme Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said: Nothing about being eased in by playing less than a period of hockey over 5 games Kind of like bringing up a prospect from Utica so he can play 30 seconds on the fourth and we wonder why he isn't developing (long term) or done anything after 10 games. You realize that in in the middle of that series of KHL games listed, last weekend he also played a VHL game to get him some more icetime, right? He played 16 minutes in that game. So in addition to a gradual exposure to a high level adult professional league, he also gets icetime in junior when necessary, which is easy because the junior team is in the same city. Not sure why you have a problem with this. By the way, I pointed out the progression in his icetime over the course of that series of games. You ignored this and talked about the total. Can you really not see the progression in that series? You also didn't answer the question, who should the Canucks speak out to about what you feel is this terrible situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: You realize that in in the middle of that series of KHL games listed, last weekend he also played a VHL game to get him some more icetime, right? He played 16 minutes in that game. So in addition to a gradual exposure to a high level adult professional league, he also gets icetime in junior when necessary, which is easy because the junior team is in the same city. Not sure why you have a problem with this. By the way, I pointed out the progression in his icetime over the course of that series of games. You ignored this and talked about the total. Can you really not see the progression in that series? You also didn't answer the question, who should the Canucks speak out to about what you feel is this terrible situation? "progression" as he goes from 10 minutes to 30 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, Tortorella's Rant said: "progression" as he goes from 10 minutes to 30 seconds That's what you saw in his last 5 games? Maybe look a little closer. And maybe think a bit more before ranting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, WeneedLumme said: That's what you saw in his last 5 games? Maybe look a little closer. And maybe think a bit more before ranting. "progression" Playing 30 and 40 seconds. Okay then. Then two minutes. Like assigning a Utica or major junior prospect to the fourth line so he can open the door for 59:30 of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said: "progression" Playing 30 and 40 seconds. Okay then. Then two minutes. Like assigning a Utica or major junior prospect to the fourth line so he can open the door for 59:30 of the game. You really don't like to answer questions or address facts, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, WeneedLumme said: You really don't like to answer questions or address facts, do you? That was a fact. Nice try, hombre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, Tortorella's Rant said: That was a fact. Nice try, hombre You have not answered a single question or addressed a single fact in this discussion. Goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: You have not answered a single question or addressed a single fact in this discussion. Goodbye. I do nothing but address facts. Not my problem you got checked so easily #checkmate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Chickenspear said: He just turned 18, 6'1", 196lbs playing against fully grown men in a tough league. 2 years from now when his KHL contract is up, he'll probably be 6'3" 210lbs +. Kids got a ton of battle. Can't wait to see him in 'Nucks colours. growing 2 inches after 18? idk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 37 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: You realize that in in the middle of that series of KHL games listed, last weekend he also played a VHL game to get him some more icetime, right? He played 16 minutes in that game. So in addition to a gradual exposure to a high level adult professional league, he also gets icetime in junior when necessary, which is easy because the junior team is in the same city. Not sure why you have a problem with this. By the way, I pointed out the progression in his icetime over the course of that series of games. You ignored this and talked about the total. Can you really not see the progression in that series? You also didn't answer the question, who should the Canucks speak out to about what you feel is this terrible situation? The only problem I see with this situation is that it must be difficult for Podz to get used to the various linemates and team systems. It seems like they don't know which level is best for him yet, so are making his transition to KHL more gradual. I think it's a good sign that he had +9min in his last game and hopefully is almost ready to find his place on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, 112 said: growing 2 inches after 18? idk I know a guy who grew 6 inches when he was 18. It can happen. There are some people who are saying Pettersson grew over the summer, not only in weight but in height. He does look taller. I wouldn't doubt it that he's 6'3" now... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 39 minutes ago, 112 said: growing 2 inches after 18? idk Highly unlikely to grow that much but it could happen. Just our very own Chris Tanev went undrafted many times because he was too small. At 18 he started a growth spurt and over the course of 2 years grew like 8-10 inches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: I know a guy who grew 6 inches when he was 18. It can happen. There are some people who are saying Pettersson grew over the summer, not only in weight but in height. He does look taller. I wouldn't doubt it that he's 6'3" now... 4 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: Highly unlikely to grow that much but it could happen. Just our very own Chris Tanev went undrafted many times because he was too small. At 18 he started a growth spurt and over the course of 2 years grew like 8-10 inches. oh it's definitely possible- just not that likely :p in the interests of optimism, i'll bet you all he grows another inch, though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenspear Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, 112 said: growing 2 inches after 18? idk I did, not that uncommon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 6 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: Seriously? His last 5 games he has played: game 4 - 0:30 - 1 shift game 5 - 1:08 - 2 shifts game 6 - 2:45 - 4 shifts game 7 - 4:00 - 7 shifts game 8 - 9:10 - 14 shifts as this teenager is being eased into playing at a professional level against men, the way his coach wants him to play. And you really see some problem with that progression? And if you do, just who exactly should the Canucks be "speaking out" to about this? The team who has him under contract and has the right to utilize and develop him as they choose? CALL THE RUSSIAN PRESIDENT.......(when he gets his shirt on)! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tollbooth Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 9 hours ago, higgyfan said: 6'1 at 196lbs is mighty big for a guy that just turned 18. If he were playing in a Jr league, he would look huge, but he is playing on a team with the average of 27yrs. Sure is. That's why i was expecting to see someone who looked close to Virtanen in size. In that video he looks 5' 11" 175 lbs. Two inches shorter and 20 lbs lighter than Jake would be my guess. 9 hours ago, higgyfan said: Except Alf never said that... "Podz is going to come into our team just when we need him to replace guys like Baer." Right. He alluded to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Tollbooth said: Sure is. That's why i was expecting to see someone who looked close to Virtanen in size. In that video he looks 5' 11" 175 lbs. Two inches shorter and 20 lbs lighter than Jake would be my guess. Right. He alluded to it. Podz will replace guys like Baer. It could Pearson he replaces too. Podz will absolutely be in our top 9 in two years, and he will be a huge upgrade on guys like Baer or Pearson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, Tollbooth said: Sure is. That's why i was expecting to see someone who looked close to Virtanen in size. In that video he looks 5' 11" 175 lbs. Two inches shorter and 20 lbs lighter than Jake would be my guess. LOL your watching a video to determine a players height and weight? The khl roster has him at 6'1" and 196 lbs. 16 minutes ago, Tollbooth said: Right. He alluded to it. No he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tollbooth Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 44 minutes ago, higgyfan said: LOL your watching a video to determine a players height and weight? The khl roster has him at 6'1" and 196 lbs. No. I'm watching to see my shiny new 6' 1" 196 lbs first round pick not get blown over when the big guys skate by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 33 minutes ago, Tollbooth said: No. I'm watching to see my shiny new 6' 1" 196 lbs first round pick not get blown over when the big guys skate by. Good for you Trollbooth! Enjoy your evening! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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