Gaudette Celly Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, billabong said: If nothing else the Canucks gotta move some money at forward miller-pettersson-boeser baertschi-horvat-Pearson roussel-sutter-virtanen schaller-beagle-spooner eriksson, gaudette leivo, motte, goldobin and granlund are RFA’s even after the Miller trade they still one more guy to help score Loui is gone. Spooner to Utica. Granny, Goldy, Schaller have relatively low cap hits so could perhaps be flipped to teams with cap issues, to swap contracts and take on some short-term salary. With the addition of Miller and desire to add a dman, they must certainly have a plan for moving the extra bodies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, Fakename70 said: If that means Baertschi is gone, I’ll gladly take it. Probably doesn't mean he's gone, but it does mean if he's out again there isn't a gaping hole in the offense. I get why people are nervous about the first, but JB obviously believes in this core group, we should too, they're pretty awesome 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Chris12345 said: Kane is the better of the three. Go ahead, show me stats to prove me wrong. Kane is still better. No argument and they paid more for it too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Part of it is there will always be automatic outrage whenever a 1st round pick is moved, but also the timing of the Marleau trade. As a result, a false equivocation has been presumed between two very different situations, same as the false equivocation with the Ottawa acquiring of Duchene. Apparently a "fair" return for Miller would have been Tampa including their first rounder. Yup. As a fan, you have to he prepared for something like this, given the state of our franichise. I assumed it would be one or more of Virtanen, Gaudette, Woo, Juolevi, Demko, Dipietro, or Madden that we traded because those are the guys with real value outside of our core 4, but Benning chose to double down on his guys and give up the future 1st. I guess it makes sense, given Benning's contract situation. Other teams may also value our 1st more than those prospects. But you have to give to get and spare parts just wasn't going to get this trade done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Loui is gone. Spooner to Utica. Granny, Goldy, Schaller have relatively low cap hits so could perhaps be flipped to teams with cap issues, to swap contracts and take on some short-term salary. With the addition of Miller and desire to add a dman, they must certainly have a plan for moving the extra bodies. Still some doubt as to whether JB qualifies Goldy and Granny as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) Sigh 100 pages...Trebreh's late post nailed it! Edited June 23, 2019 by 6string 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, stawns said: Probably doesn't mean he's gone, but it does mean if he's out again there isn't a gaping hole in the offense. I get why people are nervous about the first, but JB obviously believes in this core group, we should too, they're pretty awesome And they're all the type of guys to play the relentless attacking style, "now with increased heaviness". The ones drafted today fit that mold very well too, as do others that are coming like Lockwood, Woo, and MacEwen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Stierlitz said: JT Miller is actually pretty durable - he played 82, 82, 82 and 75 games in the last 4 seasons. Valid point. Sutter was pretty much an iron man until he joined Canucks. Guddy was hurt a lot more here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post luckylager Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 I'm never a big fan of trading first round draft picks, but I've always accepted you need to give quality to get quality. It's kinda funny reading people just howl over it. Miller will have an immediate impact, the 10-32 pick in 2021 won't make an impact for 3 years, if ever. We've needed a heavy, skilled, top 6 LW for YEARS. We finally trade for one, manage to keep all of our prospects and people wanna cry about a 10-32 OA pick. Boohoo I like this move by JB. Go get us a legit RD. Let's win some &^@#ing games dammit! 1 2 9 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, sonoman said: Still some doubt as to whether JB qualifies Goldy and Granny as well. Yeah, not sure if they'd just let them walk though? Rather doubt it, they can at least qualify them and see if they can find a new home unless they figure there is absolutely no market for them at all. But some bodies have to go, and they are the obvious candidates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, sonoman said: Still some doubt as to whether JB qualifies Goldy and Granny as well. They're both NHL players. Ideally, you'd like to bring them back at a number lower than their qualifying offer but you risk losing them to free agency. I can see them letting Granlund go but I think Goldobin gets qualified. There's too much talent there to not give him one more chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: And they're all the type of guys to play the relentless attacking style, "now with increased heaviness". The ones drafted today fit that mold very well too, as do others that are coming like Lockwood, Woo, and MacEwen. They have a very clear idea of the style they want to play and it's been a methodical process to get the right players to do that. Right now they have a lot of fwds to use to paint that picture, it'll be fun to watch how the roster actually takes shape as JB and Co move guys that don't fit their vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gaudette Celly Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 Perhaps JB is even thinking at yet another level on all this. Instead of cheering for failure, the tankers will now be forced to support the team on to success, so we don't end up giving Tampa a higher pick. Genius! 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, VIC_CITY said: They're both NHL players. Ideally, you'd like to bring them back at a number lower than their qualifying offer but you risk losing them to free agency. I can see them letting Granlund go but I think Goldobin gets qualified. There's too much talent there to not give him one more chance. Granny is just do versatile.......I think they let Goldy walk and keep Granny and then move him in a deal at some point this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, J-23 said: Good trade lol. Guess that makes me a troll cause finishing your statements will lol makes you a troll. CDC logic here lol doi....dragged into the gutter again...lol Edited June 23, 2019 by Pete M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 It's unfortunate this move came on the heels of the "Chiarelli joining the Canucks" rumour. All the usual suspects were already primed for action. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 According to these charts, JT Miller, who averaged 14:40 of ice time, started in the offensive zone less than half of the time, yet his line generally outshot the opponents line. Also, JT Miller's most common linemates were Cirelli and Killorn. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, combover said: I have no issue with people that think Bennings doing a good job it’s funny that most of them can’t accept fans that don’t like what he’s doing and stand behind what they say. Must be a troll. I don’t post on here to get a rise I post my opinion same as you.if some one wants to discuss it great Don’t like it don’t read it, ignore me, want to try to brow beat bully or intimidate with childish name call well I can drop to that level too. Let me ask you this so for two years most on here have be laughing at the oiliers and lucic and how eriksson is better. now a rumour surfaces that eriksson for Lucy and those same people now say great what a great move get it done. What changed other than the management said so. If someone else is doing your thinking and you blindly follow and change your opinion and beliefs to match and defend almost angrily wouldn’t that make that person your lord or saviour.almost sound like a religious fanatic .. that’s how some on here act with Benning. Now chia pet isn’t the worst gm ever and he would be a great addition...lol.really why because he’s a Canucks. but I’m a troll because I don’t want to trade first rounders, acquire players like Lucy or have a guy that just got fired for being terrible and I stand behind it and defend my position. There's 91,567 members on CDC. That's a lot of differing opinions. There's actually only a few that always praise Benning no matter what. There are far more that criticize Benning no matter what and the defenders are usually responding to them. I think the Lucic backers are probably the same ones who wanted him over Eriksson when he was a UFA. There are also the Eriksson haters who want him gone and somehow think that Lucic would be a better fit. For the record, I'm not one of those. Edited June 23, 2019 by RWMc1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, stawns said: It's unfortunate this move came on the heels of the "Chiarelli joining the Canucks" rumour. All the usual suspects were already primed for action. Elaborate. And also, Chiarelli as a Canucks; what a bizarre rumour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 Just now, Me_ said: Elaborate. And also, Chiarelli as a Canucks; what a bizarre rumour... A certain elements of the fanbase was already on the ledge from that rumour, so trading a first was the dagger in the heart 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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