canuck73_3 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) @The Vancouver Connection Ok keep confused facing my posts, you're too much of a chicken to back your post, so you're clearly a troll and your opinion on anything is irrelevant. Edited June 23, 2019 by canuck73_3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 minute ago, The Vancouver Connection said: Benning sucks Why? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Pete M said: Yeah, did you watch the clip of him mic'd up ...good team guy and seems to be a character guy...always chatting it up That mic’d up was great, Stamkos was hilarious too. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Holy crap!! Over 100 pages. Chill. Relax. Let's see how this plays out next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 87Crosby Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) I can’t believe I came back to CDC but this trade really made me miss this place ... now the trade - I like it because it shows me that we’re competing now. The move to bring in a guy like Miller can be great for our top 6 where we are severely thin. I don’t think playing a plethora of guys rotating in and out of those wing spots was good for the development of any of our young players going forward. Quite curious to see who we get to fill out the D corps as well. Really lacking someone to crunch minutes on that right side edit: hard to English at 11:15 pm :/ Edited June 23, 2019 by 87Crosby 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeremyCuddles Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, stawns said: How are they thin on talent? They are thin on depth and JB just made a big move to alleviate some of those issues. That first round pick isn't going to even be an NHL player until around 2025, is it really that big of an issue? That's assuming that guy even turns out. For every Brock Boeser there are dozens upon dozens of Gaunces and Shinkaruks. Team Rebuild is so up in their own ass about draft picks as if no rebuilding team ever traded any picks ever. NYR traded a first rounder and a young d-man for Trouba. New Jersey gave up two 2nd rounders and two relatively youngish guys for Subban. Vancouver is nearing the end of the rebuild and the kids we have are gonna need guys like Miller and Pearson to help them along. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I still think there is a deal to be made with a cap strapped team for a good "D" man (key word is "good") 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProtectEP40 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 I have not posted for some time. At first I was very upset with giving up a first round pick. I feel we could have given up slightly less and this would have been an awesome trade. I actually real like Benning and trust his judgement when it comes to drafting. The trades scare me. The free agent signings scare me. Only time will tell but if we don't make the playoffs this trade will really suck. I am warming up to the trade as it comes with good contractual value and Miller can be moved for assets. Miller is what we need and that won't come cheap. Plus if we give up a pick in the 20+ range it is a good trade. My guess is that they spend to the cap and that will change the defence. Should be exciting hockey next year and for years to come. Now Benning has to trade some of our players and get a decent return! Unlikely is my guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, TheRocket18 said: if miller cannot crack 70 on the PP with stamkos, kucherov, Hedman and point... he won’t do that with Vancouver. He even played on wings of point and stamkos most of the year. Not happening. You clearly don't know how the Tampa PP operated if you think he should've been scoring more on there. He was played below the goal line and was tasked with doing all the puck retrievel behind the net and in the corners. He got the puck passed it to either Stamkos or Kucherov depending on which half wall they were on, they went to Hedman who them went to either Stamkos or Kucherov for the one timer. So Miller did the dirty work but got no points because he was the 3rd to touch the puck. He did set up Point in the slot a lot so if you have a net front guy he'll find them. He hardly played on Points wing at all. He was with Stamkos some but only when Palat was injured. Cooper wanted his guys, Johnson and Palat, in the top 6 so Miller was left with bottom 6 duty. When he played with Stamkos and Kucherov after being traded for he put up 18 points in 19 games, so the potential to produce with good players is there. found this snippet.., thought all would enjoy https://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/van-tbl-j-t-miller-for-marek-mazanec-2019-3rd-round-pick-and-2020-conditional-1st-round-pick.2659733/page-16 I hope people read this. One of the major issues of the EP-BB line was puck retrieval (with skill). Boeser has never been the greatest at this and EP would do it, but he often was the only one. By adding another decent PP guy also will push someone to the 2nd unit to make it more threatening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 This trade is the result of the Canucks trying to compete last 4 years instead of embracing a rebuild. If we'd been acquiring draft picks then losing a 1st and 3rd wouldn't be a problem today, we probably would of had prospects to deal instead of picks as well to keep the pipeline going. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianRugby Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Pete M said: I still think there is a deal to be made with a cap strapped team for a good "D" man (key word is "good") Why would a cap strapped team deal a good D man? They can deal a middle 6 forward and get a 1st and 3rd in return instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 hour ago, luckylager said: I'm never a big fan of trading first round draft picks, but I've always accepted you need to give quality to get quality. It's kinda funny reading people just howl over it. Miller will have an immediate impact, the 10-32 pick in 2021 won't make an impact for 3 years, if ever. We've needed a heavy, skilled, top 6 LW for YEARS. We finally trade for one, manage to keep all of our prospects and people wanna cry about a 10-32 OA pick. Boohoo I like this move by JB. Go get us a legit RD. Let's win some &^@#ing games dammit! Better yet, it's a 17-32 pick if we make the playoffs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 minute ago, CanadianRugby said: This trade is the result of the Canucks trying to compete last 4 years instead of embracing a rebuild. If we'd been acquiring draft picks then losing a 1st and 3rd wouldn't be a problem today, we probably would of had prospects to deal instead of picks as well to keep the pipeline going. if only we’d followed your hero and signed Marleau then traded him with a 1st and a 7th for a 6th. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Pete M said: I still think there is a deal to be made with a cap strapped team for a good "D" man (key word is "good") Hope we have another Miller (Colin) coming our way with the surplus of forwards to help out the right-side D group. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: That mic’d up was great, Stamkos was hilarious too. JT needs to really work on his shot. (from that clip) Like really really. Benning should tell him to work with Brock. Edited June 23, 2019 by Hairy Kneel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, CanadianRugby said: Why would a cap strapped team deal a good D man? They can deal a middle 6 forward and get a 1st and 3rd in return instead. a cap strapped team with young "D" prospects ready to step in, who have a lower cap hit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Pete M said: a cap strapped team with young "D" prospects ready to step in, who have a lower cap hit.... It's ok Leaf fans don't know what good hockey trades look like. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted June 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Trebreh said: I did some digging around to look for some more recent comparables on what a top 6 forward would cost to acquire. so i came up with the Kane trade to the Sharks... https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/sabres-trade-forward-evander-kane-sharks/ the Sharks gave up a conditional 1st, conditional 4th in 2020 and a prospect/project in Danny O'Reagan. Kevin Hayes trade cost the Jets a 1st a conditional 4th and a decent prospect Brendan Lemieux... https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/winnipeg-jets-acquire-kevin-hayes-new-york-rangers/ We gave up a 1st in 2021, a 3rd and a throw in Mazanec for arguably the better player of the three on a MUCH better contract and cap hit. Kane 7m - Hayes 7m - Miller 5.2m JB is going to look like a genius if he clicks with Petey and Brock and puts up 60 points and all his haters will go on hiding. The sad part is these so called "fans" would rather Miller fail so they can say they're right in that Benning sucks. Even the Shinkaruk for Granlund trade is pretty definitive at this point, but yet people still complain about because Granlund hasn't become some 30 goal scorer or whatever expectation they have in hopes that he's some incredible steal. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losing With Pride Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Baggins said: Well if we miss the playoffs next year Tampa has to wait another year for that pick. Next year Tryamkin's KHL contract expires and he can return. Do you like our chances better with him on the back end for the following year? And all of this ignores possible ufa additions, more prospects possibly surprising, and other possible trades that can improve the team even further. I see it as a pretty decent deal considering Tampa has to wait up to two years to get that pick. I would like our chances better but I still don’t think we are deep enough. Call me ultra conservative but the uncertainty of a lottery pick makes me extremely nervous. Now if we were an actual cup contender, a trade like this would make a lot more sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestFalcon Posted June 23, 2019 Share Posted June 23, 2019 Alright, so I don't mind this too much, and depending on what other moves are made, I could end up being quite happy with it. It's definitely a statement trade, either we make the playoffs or Benning's time here will be done here. If we're stacking up now, there's no more excuses to tank. But since we did give up one of our biggest trade pieces outside our top players, will this mean that we will be going for D in free agency? If that's the case, I feel like there's a good chance Gardiner will be the target, just because I feel Winnipeg's going to try their best to keep Myers. Also, are we going to actually get rid of Eriksson, or just waive him after preseason? Because I really don't think there's room for him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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