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[Trade] Lightning trade J.T. Miller to Canucks for Marek Mazanec, 2019 3rd-round pick, 2020 conditional 1st-round pick

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3 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

Miller isn't a bag of pucks. Your cluelessness is showing again...

Lucic isn’t a first rounder... B)

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1 hour ago, mpt said:

Players are more than points

So true.  You have to remember though, 90% of the posters on this board have never played competitive hockey, and will never understand how much more there is to this game than points. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, bad alice french said:

Yes and finally done depth. A good chunk on that list don’t deserve to be full time players. Time to trim the fat. 

I'd like to see Sutter, Granlund, Schaller and Motte moved on.

 

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9 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

That is simplifying it also he scored 56 points against “top pairings” with the Rangers...

 

With Tampa he mainly played against other teams 2nd/3rd lines and 2nd pair defence. 

 

Miller/Horvat is a fair comparison objectively speaking. Bo 6’ 215,  JT 6’1 218, Miller can play Centre best season 56 points at 24 to Bo’s 61 points at 24. With an extra 5 minutes a game in the top 6 would produce 50-60 points easily. Not as far off a comparison as you think. 

So you would trade Horvat for Miller? 

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Just now, canuck73_3 said:

Holland isn't giving Lucic away. 

It definitely won’t cost a 1st and a 3rd.

 

Their contracts are similar too especially if you justify their value with your statistics

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1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said:

Holland isn't giving Lucic away. 

Couldn't if he tried

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Just now, CanadianRugby said:

So you would trade Horvat for Miller? 

No, because they're on the same team that would be a pointless trade. 

 

 

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Just now, canuck73_3 said:

No, because they're on the same team that would be a pointless trade. 

Jesus I can't believe I interacted with this troll.  My game is slipping. 

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2 minutes ago, CanadianRugby said:

So you would trade Horvat for Miller? 

Man. Pure gaslighting tactic right there.

Total fallacy in argument.

 

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2 minutes ago, mpt said:

It definitely won’t cost a 1st and a 3rd.

 

Their contracts are similar too especially if you justify their value with your statistics

One is entering his prime and the other is passed his best before date would rather have Miller and I like Lucic. 

 

That NMC is a no go for me. 

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3 hours ago, HC20.0 said:

We finally got our 2nd line winger that we’ve been looking for.

Now if we could just get Ferland for top line.. for sutter plus? 

$&!#e we'd have a killer top 6

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2 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

One is entering his prime and the other is passed his best before date would rather have Miller and I like Lucic. 

 

That NMC is a no go for me. 

Doesn’t Miller have one?

 

Dont get me wrong, I’d rather have Miller over Lucic.

 

Again I like the player, I dont like the trade.

 

We can no longer trade a 1st round pick for two years.  Do we really think Miller is the best player in the league that we can acquire using a 1st round pick over the next 2 seasons? I have a hard time believing that.

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1 minute ago, CanadianRugby said:

Jesus I can't believe I interacted with this troll.  My game is slipping. 

Could say the same interacting with a Leaf fan. Go fluff Dumbass more troll. 

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If it's moved to the following season is it lottery protected? I don't think we will have to worry. But an injury or 2 and you never know.. trading future 1st round picks in a lottery ERA is a dangerous game

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Just now, mpt said:

Doesn’t Miller have one?

Nope, modified NTC and because we acquired him before it kicks in we don't have to honour it. 

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Just now, canuck73_3 said:

Nope, modified NTC and because we acquired him before it kicks in we don't have to honour it. 

That doesn't seem fair to Miller

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I am so torn on this trade. Excited for Miller concerned about giving up a first. Hopefully Benning can acquire a first somewhere else (like a Marleau situation) then I would be really happy again. 

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4 minutes ago, mpt said:

Doesn’t Miller have one?

Nope. It didn't kick in until July apparently and is now void.

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