ItTakesAnArmy Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Our young core guys are ready to make the push forward for the playoffs. Those young guys are good players, and deserve to have top players (on good contracts, who are in their primes) supporting them. Young core? Pettersson, Horvat and Boeser, Hughes unknown yet for sure, he might be good at scoring but a horrible defensive defense man. Benning is running the team like the rebuild is finished. Is a playoff appearance mean the rebuild is a success? What about in 4 years? Three quarters of this group will need to be replaced so this is looking at lot like the double rebuild Colorado is dealing with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 41 minutes ago, DrJockitch said: Doesn’t feel like Benning is done. Still hasn’t traded anyone on the team. Feels like may still be things coming. Hope there is. Would like to see a d come in before ufas. Just hope he doesn’t trade Jake to get it done. agree on all points. Trading Jake now would be counterproductive. They've got a chance at building three solid scoring lines that can all play in their own end as well. Jake is excellent value for his cap hit. IMO, they go for Stalman and a bottom pairing defensive specialist in UFA. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted June 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, babalu said: Not saying they don't. I am all for going for the playoffs this year and adding players to our top 6. I just think we could have done better if we were trading our first. JTM is 218 pounds, skilled, puts up 50 points, plays all three forward positions, is hard to play against, is 26, and signed to a great four year contract. He’s a really good guy for our team. 1 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, ItTakesAnArmy said: Young core? Pettersson, Horvat and Boeser, Hughes unknown yet for sure, he might be good at scoring but a horrible defensive defense man. Benning is running the team like the rebuild is finished. Is a playoff appearance mean the rebuild is a success? What about in 4 years? Three quarters of this group will need to be replaced so this is looking at lot like the double rebuild Colorado is dealing with. it's one draft pick, step away from the ledge. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItTakesAnArmy Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Alflives said: Our young core guys are ready to make the push forward for the playoffs. Those young guys are good players, and deserve to have top players (on good contracts, who are in their primes) supporting them. Young core? Pettersson, Horvat and Boeser, Hughes unknown yet for sure, he might be good at scoring but a horrible defensive defense man. Benning is running the team like the rebuild is finished. Is a playoff appearance mean the rebuild is a success? What about in 4 years? Three quarters of this group will need to be replaced so this is looking at lot like the double rebuild Colorado is dealing with. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItTakesAnArmy Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, captainhorvat said: Can u be our gm? To run the team like this, why not? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, Alflives said: JTM is 218 pounds, skilled, puts up 50 points, plays all three forward positions, is hard to play against, is 26, and signed to a great four year contract. He’s a really good guy for our team. Have seen lightning fans on HF say he is overpaid. We shall see I guess. Seems like an overpayment for a guy who we are hoping becomes better than what he has shown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItTakesAnArmy Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, stawns said: it's one draft pick, step away from the ledge. No it is one 1rst round lottery pick, teams only get one per year and if they blow their pick it cost two year to make it up. That is why Boston and NYR were and are able to rebuild in three years or less, they had 4 or 5 years worth of 1rst round picks in 2/3 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks.brad Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, canuck73_3 said: Problem being they run out of cap to improve their awful defence anyway. true but anything they can do to free up cap is a positive for them and had to be done. expensive but it had to be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 minute ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: Young core? Pettersson, Horvat and Boeser, Hughes unknown yet for sure, he might be good at scoring but a horrible defensive defense man. Benning is running the team like the rebuild is finished. Is a playoff appearance mean the rebuild is a success? What about in 4 years? Three quarters of this group will need to be replaced so this is looking at lot like the double rebuild Colorado is dealing with. Good points for sure, but I think our young core is very good, and the supporting parts around them is sustainable considering the youth in our prospects. We have Woo and Rathbone for D. The forwards coming will be Podkolzin, Lind, and Kappen. There are others too. It’s time to move forward and see what we can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, stawns said: it's one draft pick, step away from the ledge. Hey that one draft pick has turned into: Horvat Boeser Pettersson Hughes That is the quality of player we are giving up by surrendering our first. Edited June 22, 2019 by babalu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptKirk888 Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Lionized27 said: Yes. Palestine, Ohio. Just down the street from the Gaza Strip-mall 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, babalu said: Nice spin. It's like we got him for a 3rd. well, a player taken in 2021, likely a late pick, probably won't see NHL action until 2025. At least two of Petey, Bo, Boes, Hughes, OJ and Demko will llikely be gone by then. Hard to blame JB for wanting to get that group some immediate help rather than a possibility 6 years from now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spicolee Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 14 minutes ago, Baggins said: A first that could be two years out and us a playoff team. What so many of you seem to ignore is Tampa has to wait for that pick and it's anywhere from 3 to 5 years away from stepping on NHL ice. If we're still rebuilding by then some current core will be getting traded for assets. Or, the pick is deferred until 2021 and we win the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, CaptKirk888 said: Just down the street from the Gaza Strip-mall well played 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, babalu said: Have seen lightning fans on HF say he is overpaid. We shall see I guess. Seems like an overpayment for a guy who we are hoping becomes better than what he has shown I just want JTM to continue along his current path of play. He’s really good as is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, ItTakesAnArmy said: No it is one 1rst round lottery pick, teams only get one per year and if they blow their pick it cost two year to make it up. That is why Boston and NYR were and are able to rebuild in three years or less, they had 4 or 5 years worth of 1rst round picks in 2/3 years. Do u understand the conditions of the first we gave up? I can re write it in BIG letters if u want? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishopshodan Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 this is good. everything is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete M Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 I like this trade...as long as JT Miller keeps improving, which I believe he will playing with EP40 and BB6, this team is starting to get hard to play against...the only thing left to do now is..... FIX THE "D"!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItTakesAnArmy Posted June 22, 2019 Share Posted June 22, 2019 One thing, what if he can't play on the wing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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