hammertime Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Just saw the hit. Man that was all happening so fast looks like he saw the hit coming and reacted /tried to protect himself unfortunate event probably deserves the suspension, you cant do that. Though I don't think it was malicious. He's starting to get a history of head hits he will need to be more careful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10pavelbure96 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 56 minutes ago, 112 said: did edler do anything like this to another player before he was 20? the other guy hasn't played since- and this was early october. look at the reponses on reddit; people are already seriously tying his name to players like marchand. if that's the reputation he's gaining for himself, there's something that needs to be removed from or altered within his game, probably. Good. We need a guy like that. Every team in the league would want a Brad Marchand on their top line or a Nils Hog in their pool. Get real 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 This kid is built for playoff hockey F the IIHF soft little kitties 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, hammertime said: Just saw the hit. Man that was all happening so fast looks like he saw the hit coming and reacted /tried to protect himself unfortunate event probably deserves the suspension, you cant do that. Though I don't think it was malicious. He's starting to get a history of head hits he will need to be more careful. it only deserved a 2 min, the Russian player was right back out there on the powerplay, fair is fair Russia player did the same kind of hit and only got 2 instead of 5. Hogs is 5'9" the other guy is 5'11" couldn't have been much of a head hit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I don't think the hit is suspension worthy. He was just bracing himself for contact. Denisenko was aiming to hit him. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I think at most it's only borderline worthy of a suspension and ultimately quite subjective. It might have been due to the elbow follow through as others have mentioned but I don't think it's enough for him to warrant having a reputation around the league. Reverse hitters like Datsyuk have thrown similar if more controlled hits and gotten away with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dats hockey Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, NaveJoseph said: I don't think the hit is suspension worthy. He was just bracing himself for contact. Denisenko was aiming to hit him. Hog is a big kid didn’t you know... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, 112 said: did edler do anything like this to another player before he was 20? the other guy hasn't played since- and this was early october. look at the reponses on reddit; people are already seriously tying his name to players like marchand. if that's the reputation he's gaining for himself, there's something that needs to be removed from or altered within his game, probably. Check out these highlight clips from the Finland US game. Two elbows and a direct boarding from behind. Perspective is important. https://www.tsn.ca/finland-s-gm-kristian-tanus-not-facing-suspension-vs-team-canada-at-world-junior-championship-1.1421746 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Just now, bree2 said: it only deserved a 2 min, the Russian player was right back out there on the powerplay, fair is fair Russia player did the same kind of hit and only got 2 instead of 5. Hogs is 5'9" the other guy is 5'11" couldn't have been much of a head hit You watched the replay? He clearly saw the russian about to lower the boom on him raised the forearm shivver to protect himself and caught the guy square in the head with it. it was a reaction to protect himself but it was a clear head shot. Therefore he deserves what he got. Regardless of what ever other poor calls were made in this case it was the right call. If it said Marchand on his sweater he might have gotten complemented on a nice clean hit by the refs and a pat on the ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 He’s got to be careful. NHLers will give him a pounding if he does any of that at this level. He’d get humbled pretty quickly. They ain’t afraid of Marchand for his cheap shots, he constantly is targeted physically. The rat now is dubbed down from his dirty play mainly because he is a good scorer though and that’s what teams fear about him. I’d rather him not build that sort of reputation for himself. Rather fear his scoring than go after him and be willing to take more liberties on our team because of iffy plays. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silky mitts Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 I like that he is edgy and Walks the fine line . We need that. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: He’s got to be careful. NHLers will give him a pounding if he does any of that at this level. He’d get humbled pretty quickly. They ain’t afraid of Marchand for his cheap shots, he constantly is targeted physically. The rat now is dubbed down from his dirty play mainly because he is a good scorer though and that’s what teams fear about him. I’d rather him not build that sort of reputation for himself. Rather fear his scoring than go after him and be willing to take more liberties on our team because of iffy plays. There was nothing "cheap" or "iffy" or "dirty" about that play. Equating it with what Marchand does is completely fallacious. The only "reputation" possible from it is that he doesn't shy away from contact and will protect himself. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Borvat said: This latest penalty is not even close to vicious or blatant - linking them is not realistic. Look at all the players getting suspended in these IIHF games for contact to the head. Yet a Finnish player throws a flying elbow at a US player, knocks him down with a bleeding nose and gets nothing. So if it gets called is this player now a bad player or is he not because it didn't get called and noone is talking about it on reddit. I say perspective is just as important as objectivity. As in this is getting blown way out of proportion in my opinion all based on the one bad hit that we all acknowledge was bad which apparently will follow him - like it did Edler? Reffing has been horrible and very inconsistent. In the Canada game that is on now the Fin got high sticked and was bleeding and the refs did not give Canada a penalty. Instead, the ref brain trust gives the injured Fin a penalty 10 minute suspension. Haha...shockingly bad!! Edited January 4, 2020 by Kanukfanatic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 The Hogs reverse hit was fine. Should have just gotten 2 minutes. Love Hoglander. Can't wait till he gets on the Canucks!! The mamby pambies can cry more when he gets physical in the NHL when it is needed. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Googlie Posted January 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, higgyfan said: Suspension worthy or not, a lot of Swedish fans will consider Hogs as the reason for the loss. After he joins us, he can have a few commiserative beers with Jake 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specz Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Not even mad. We could use a Marchand type. Someones gotta take up his mantle after he retires anyways 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gaudette Celly said: There was nothing "cheap" or "iffy" or "dirty" about that play. Equating it with what Marchand does is completely fallacious. The only "reputation" possible from it is that he doesn't shy away from contact and will protect himself. I am using both this and the October play. He definitely walks a fine line of protecting himself that’s for certain. He does plays like that vs Vegas for example Reaves will pound is mound and they won’t afraid to take liberties vs our stars. NHL is a whole other playing field. Teams aren’t gonna care if he’s ‘protecting’ himself if it results in one of their players hurt. He has to be careful. No ifs ands or buts about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: I am using both this and the October play. He definitely walks a fine line of protecting himself that’s for certain. He does plays like that vs Vegas for example Reaves will pound is mound and they won’t afraid to take liberties vs our stars. NHL is a whole other playing field. Teams aren’t gonna care if he’s ‘protecting’ himself if it results in one of their players hurt. He has to be careful. No ifs ands or buts about it. This is silly. Plays like this occur almost every night in the NHL. And teams just play on.............. Edit: the guy Hoglander checked didn't even get injured. No one in the NHL would do anything about it. Double Edit: those people trying to connect this minor hit with Hoglander's previous hit where he knocked the player out of the game and more games after that are grasping at straws. They are not similar at all like many posters have already typed here. But evidence and logic has fallen on deaf ears in this thread it seems lol. Edited January 4, 2020 by Kanukfanatic 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 Just now, Kanukfanatic said: This is silly. Plays like this occur almost every night in the NHL. And teams just play on.............. Edit: the guy Hoglander checked didn't even get injured. No one in the NHL would do anything about it. Whenever you see a play that leaves a guy lying on the ice you always see a response. Especially when it is deliberate physical contact. It happens all the time and usually all 5 guys go after the one and it becomes a mess. Do it often teams will most certainly take notice. Wasn’t it said here that the guy he reversed hit in the SHL in October is still out? If you’re fine with our players taking liberties than you’ll have to be fine with receiving them as well. In this case I just hope we have more than Ferland and hopefully Tryamkin to protect this team. We will need it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted January 4, 2020 Share Posted January 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Whenever you see a play that leaves a guy lying on the ice you always see a response. Especially when it is deliberate physical contact. It happens all the time and usually all 5 guys go after the one and it becomes a mess. Do it often teams will most certainly take notice. Wasn’t it said here that the guy he reversed hit in the SHL in October is still out? If you’re fine with our players taking liberties than you’ll have to be fine with receiving them as well. In this case I just hope we have more than Ferland and hopefully Tryamkin to protect this team. We will need it. Give us a break with the sky is falling, we should be soooooo scared narrative if Hoglander one day actually makes it to the Canucks and then one day actually reverse hits someone in the head. Who cares?? Most teams in the NHL, if you watch games, have very little response to a hit like Hogs landed today. The other teams player fell down, went off the ice, then played their next shift. Nothing happens in the NHL for hits like that. Quit making sh&% up. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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