King Heffy Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 12 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: It seems with Focht we can't lose. Worst case he turns into an AHLer with the ability to fill in at the NHL level. Best case he turns into a regular NHL'er. Win/win. With Hayton likely unavailable I wouldn't be surprised to see both these kids with Team Canada if Focht keeps it up. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 20 hours ago, Ghostsof1915 said: So more likely making the NHL, but the ceiling isn't so high. That makes sense. But I'm still rooting for the guy. Fichte, but the way, is not an overage - he is 19. Overages are normally defined in major juniot as 20 year olds. http://juniorhockeytruth.com/jargon/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 On 10/1/2019 at 6:51 AM, Ghostsof1915 said: Can anyone recall, an overage CHL'er that was drafted who went on to have a long career in the NHL? Carson Focht 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wexcar Posted October 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) On 10/1/2019 at 2:51 PM, Ghostsof1915 said: Can anyone recall, an overage CHL'er that was drafted who went on to have a long career in the NHL? Not all from the CHL but just looking at Tanner Pearson and I checked some random players from the 2011 draft, a nice list of 19/20 year olds drafted. We'd be doing well if Focht got as many games as any of the below chaps who are still active and should all add to their numbers.... Drafted 2019 - Carson Focht - Draft age 19 - NHL games ???? - Drafted out of WHL Drafted 2011 - Ondrej Palat - Draft age 20 - NHL games 427 - Drafted out of QMJHL Drafted 2012 - Tanner Pearson - Draft age 20 - NHL games 388 - Drafted out of OHL Drafted 2011 - Ryan Dzingel - Draft age 19 - NHL games 268 - Drafted out of USHL Drafted 2011 - Josh Manson - Draft age 20 - NHL games 335 - Drafted out of BCHL Drafted 2011 - Andrew Shaw - Draft age 20 - NHL games 504 - Drafted out of OHL Drafted 2011 - Jean-Gabriel Pageau - Draft age 19 - NHL games 368 - Drafted out of QMJHL Drafted 2011 - Matt Nieto - Draft age 19 - NHL games 402 - Drafted out of NCAA Drafted 2011 - Brandon Saad - Draft age 19 - NHL games 530 - Drafted out of OHL Edited October 2, 2019 by wexcar 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 57 minutes ago, theo5789 said: Carson Focht Old broken fingers, old eyes, and an iPad will do it every time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Canucks Fan Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 This guy is our version of Drake Batherson who was drafted at 19. Look how he turned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: Fichte, but the way, is not an overage - he is 19. Overages are normally defined in major juniot as 20 year olds. http://juniorhockeytruth.com/jargon/ I think he was referring to Focht going undrafted in his draft year and being drafted in his draft +1 year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenAlien Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 The Hitmen lost 6-4 but Focht finished the game with a goal and an assist, 13/25 on faceoffs. Named third star for his efforts. Now has 9pts (4G, 5A) in 5 games, averaging 4 shots per game. Right now he’s putting up production worthy of a second rounder . 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 8 hours ago, GoldenAlien said: The Hitmen lost 6-4 but Focht finished the game with a goal and an assist, 13/25 on faceoffs. Named third star for his efforts. Now has 9pts (4G, 5A) in 5 games, averaging 4 shots per game. Right now he’s putting up production worthy of a second rounder . Isnt hean over ager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, 73 Percent said: Isnt hean over ager? Yes, same age as KL and JG last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenAlien Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, 73 Percent said: Isnt hean over ager? 14 minutes ago, dpn1 said: Yes, same age as KL and JG last year. If you mean Focht is the same age right now as Lind and Gadj were in their last year in juniors, then yes. He is not the same age as they were in the 2018-2019 season. He's a 2000 birthday and those two are 1998s, so they're two years apart. Focht was passed over once in the draft, so this is essentially his D+2 season. But he's not an overager -- those are 20 year olds, of which a CHL team can only have three. Focht is 19 years old. He's the same age as guys who were drafted in 2018 and playing their last year in the CHL -- such as Ty Dellandrea, Akil Thomas, Serron Noel or our very own Jett Woo. He's the same age as Cody Glass (1999 birth date) was last year when he was finishing his fourth season in the Dub. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 32 minutes ago, GoldenAlien said: If you mean Focht is the same age right now as Lind and Gadj were in their last year in juniors, then yes. He is not the same age as they were in the 2018-2019 season. He's a 2000 birthday and those two are 1998s, so they're two years apart. Focht was passed over once in the draft, so this is essentially his D+2 season. But he's not an overager -- those are 20 year olds, of which a CHL team can only have three. Focht is 19 years old. He's the same age as guys who were drafted in 2018 and playing their last year in the CHL -- such as Ty Dellandrea, Akil Thomas, Serron Noel or our very own Jett Woo. He's the same age as Cody Glass (1999 birth date) was last year when he was finishing his fourth season in the Dub. You might want to check the months they were born and consider when the cutoff date for the draft. He is an overager with Calgary and if he makes WJC team he will also be considered an over-ager there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GoldenAlien Posted October 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, dpn1 said: You might want to check the months they were born and consider when the cutoff date for the draft. He is an overager with Calgary and if he makes WJC team he will also be considered an over-ager there as well. Overage and draft eligibility are two separate things. It doesn't matter if Focht was drafted in 2018, 2019, or not at all. He's not an overager because overager is referring to age. For example: Calen Addision, born in April 2000, currently playing with the Lethbridge Hurricanes. Not an overager. Akil Thomas, born in January 2000, currently playing with the Niagara IceDogs. Not an overager. Carson Focht, born in February 2000, currently playing with the Calgary Hitmen. Not an overager. This was Hitmen's initial roster: https://hitmenhockey.com/article/hitmen-announce-2019-whl-pre-season-roster 1999-born (3): Mark Kastelic (F), Dakota Krebs (D), James Malm (F) 2000-born (9): Carson Focht (F), Josh Prokop (F), Carl Stankowski (G), Riley Stotts (F), Layne Toder (D), Andrew Viggars (D), Orca Wiesblatt (F), Jett Woo (D), Egor Zamula (D) Their three overagers are Kastelic (03/1999), Krebs (03/1999) and Malm (06/1999), who are 20 years old and still on the roster. Focht is in the same category as Woo -- he's a 19 year old playing his fourth season in the WHL. There are no allowances for overagers at the WJC. You're simply ineligible if you don't make the age cutoff. If you're saying that Focht was overage for the 2019 draft, as he was passed once over, then yes. He is not an overager in the Dub. Also, the CHL as a whole does not use the Sept. 15 cutoff. Age is determined by birth year, which is why late birthdays like Lind still play in the league at 16. They just play three seasons prior to their first draft, instead of two seasons like most. But the draft status of the prospects has no relations as to whether someone is classified as overage by the league. If Focht is an overager then it'd be impossible for Kastelic or Krebs, who are a whole year older, to still play in the league, considering being overage is the oldest you're allowed to go. And Calgary would have far more than three overagers on roster -- in addition to the 1999 borns, they currently have Prokop (01/2000), Stotts (01/2000), Toder (01/2000) and Stankowski (03/2000), who are all around the same age as Focht. If Focht is an overager then they're carrying at least 8 overagers right now. Edited October 14, 2019 by GoldenAlien 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 3 hours ago, 73 Percent said: Isnt hean over ager? Is he eligible for Utica? We could use a centre of his talents there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odd. Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, Alflives said: Is he eligible for Utica? We could use a centre of his talents there. No he's not eligible for Utica. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Odd. said: No he's not eligible for Utica. Too bad. It sounds like he’s too good for Junior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, Alflives said: Too bad. It sounds like he’s too good for Junior. He would be eligible to join Utica at the end of this season if the timing worked out though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get real canuck fans Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Omg the dream has become reality. We have a Focht Woo goal to celebrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Get real canuck fans said: Omg the dream has become reality. We have a Focht Woo goal to celebrate You get Focht and WOOOO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenAlien Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Two more goals tonight: Now up to 12pt (6G + 6A) in 7 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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