SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, rekker said: Wow. Just reading an old copy of Hockey News 2019 draft preview. Malone was ranked 56th at that time. Two sport athlete, baseball. May have got a steal here because of his commitment to school. Nice job JB and staff. I know a couple people I consider pretty knowledgeable on USHL stuff and they had him as high as the 30-50 range for this draft. They say we got a gem of a player here. EDIT: kinda reminds me of the Rathbone pick. We’ll have to see how our pair of Jacks turn out, but quite possible we end up with a couple very good players in Rathbone and Malone that were drafted much later than they should have been. Edited June 25, 2019 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Googlie Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 6/23/2019 at 12:03 PM, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Quite possible. I read an older interview from when he was a sophomore in high school and he talked about how he’s from an “education first” family and how hockey always comes second to his studies. He talked about how long he spent choosing his college (Cornell) and all the others he visited and ultimately rejected offers from (like Harvard and Princeton). That was a while ago, and I haven’t seen him discuss his education plans recently, but there’s probably a good chance he’s one of those guys who wants to complete his full 4-year degree before going pro. If he is even 1/2 as good as the other "professor" we drafted in the 214 slot 34 years ago he will have a long career with us 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 I got a very good impression of this kid from the development camp video. Seems very down to earth and excited to be here. I'm such a sap bit I hope this kid makes some noise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 On 6/25/2019 at 10:51 AM, Googlie said: If he is even 1/2 as good as the other "professor" we drafted in the 214 slot 34 years ago he will have a long career with us We can only hope he has a 900+ games career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GoldenAlien Posted June 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) Good profile from PITB: https://www.vancourier.com/pass-it-to-bulis/jack-malone-could-be-another-draft-steal-out-of-the-ushl-for-the-canucks-1.23869969 Among first-time draft eligible forwards in the USHL, Malone was sixth in scoring, with 19 goals and 59 points in 57 games. Of those 59 points, 42 were primary points: goals and first assists. All five of the players that finished ahead of Malone in scoring were selected in the first four rounds; in fact, four of the five were picked in the first two rounds. In other words, players with a similar statistical profile to Malone’s mostly got picked by the second round of the draft. To get Malone in the sixth round already seems like a steal, but it gets better. If you take the power play out of the equation and just look at 5-on-5 scoring, Malone shoots up to first. His 43 points at 5-on-5 led all first-time draft-eligible players in the USHL last season. Sure, there’s a mild caveat: on a per-game basis, Malone was out-scored at 5-on-5 by Alex Turcotte, Matthew Boldy, Jack Hughes, Cole Caufield, Bobby Brink, and Trevor Zegras. But now we’re talking about first-round picks and one second-round pick that should have gone in the first round in Bobby Brink. Not just first-round picks, either, but players that went in the top fifteen picks of the draft. Malone is clearly not in the same tier as that group of players, but is he so far behind that he deserved to be picked five rounds later? Hockey Prospect describes Malone as “a well-rounded forward, who can do a lot of things well” in their scouting report, noting he can play at either centre or right wing. They praise his ability to control and protect the puck, along with his strength on his skates, with a still-developing playmaking ability. In fact, “still developing” is a theme in his scouting report, with Hockey Prospect concluding that he “represents an intriguing chunk of clay to mold.” “I think I can be reliable on both ends of the ice and I think I’m a 200-foot player,” said Malone at Canucks development camp. “A player I try to emulate is definitely Nick Backstrom on the Capitals. I mean, I’m a bit bigger than he is, so I try to use my body a bit more, but as far as his ability to make plays and see the ice.” From the local Ohio paper: https://www.tribtoday.com/sports/local-sports/2019/06/canucks-draft-phantoms-malone/ “Not only was Jack the dominant player that we had hoped for, he was a pillar of a person away from the rink,” Patterson [his USHL coach] said. “He earns everything he gets and he deserves it tenfold. We are all excited to see his career evolve as he has a special set of ingredients that usually contribute to long and successful careers.” The Canucks seem to have had Malone on their radar for a while, scouting him since November. “Vancouver was actually the first team that interviewed me, or showed any real interest in me,” Malone said. “I haven’t really talked with them much, but I’m pretty sure they contacted some of my teammates and coaches just to get a better feel of myself as a person.” “I just always try to work my hardest on the ice and never take a shift off,” Malone said. “Just do whatever I can, bring some offensive play and make plays. Use my hockey IQ to make plays and use my body, but I’m also someone who can be reliable defensively and work my bag off.” Edited June 28, 2019 by GoldenAlien 5 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GoldenAlien Posted September 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2019 Nice profile on Malone: Quote Malone played on one of if not the best line in the USHL this season as a part of the Youngstown Phantoms, playing right wing alongside Buffalo Sabres left wing prospect Brett Murray and centre Connor MacEachern. All three of those players ranked in the top 20 in scoring in the USHL and Malone was known as the passer on the line, sometimes to a fault. When speaking with Matt Lipcsak, the play by play voice of the Youngstown Phantoms, one criticism that came up was that Malone didn’t shoot the puck enough. It's a valid concern given how sneaky good Malone’s shot is when he chooses to use it. Malone finished this past USHL season with 19 goals and 40 assists in 57 games and was very effective with a variety of different linemates at controlling goal share. He improved almost all of his most consistent teammate’s goal share and looks to use use his pass-first mentality to get a chance to move up the lineup early when he attends Cornell University next season. Jack also talked about his playmaking and improving his shot when I interviewed him in July: "That’s probably the thing I need to work on the most, just shooting the puck more. I don’t think I have a terrific shot or the worst shot but I definitely think it could be a lot more useful than I made it this year. I’ve always been a pass-first player, which is a blessing and curse. I love making plays and everything but at a certain point there would be times where I would need to shoot the puck or get the puck to the net and I would make the pass instead, so that’s something I need to work on moving forward.” The standout attributes that I saw in Malone’s game were his strength on the puck and ability to dominate along the boards and drive to the net on odd-man rushes. This will be tested as he climbs the latter from the USHL to the NCAA, and hopefully to professional hockey as the skill around and against him improves. As Malone continues to progress, he’ll have the chance to join prospects like Adam Gaudette and Tyler Madden in the ranks of late-round USHL standouts. As is usually the case with NCAA prospects, patience will be key, but with any luck fans will be treated to another round of impressive NCAA highlight gifs to keep them busy throughout the season. When viewed through the lens of the prospect Graduation Probabilites System, Malone comes out looking pretty good for a sixth-round pick. pGPS give him an expected likelihood of success of 14.7%, and a top 6 XLS% of 7%. He’s got some impressive players in his cohort, too, with Max Pacioretty, David Backes, and Joe Pavelski among the most well-known names. Malone will be alongside five other drafted NHL prospects at Cornell next season and will get the chance to familiarize himself with the local scene, as he’ll have 8 former BCHL players for teammates. He’s got a good head on his shoulders and has planned effectively for life outside hockey, as Jack plans to attend the Dyson business school to major in applied economics and management. His interest in business is something he inherited from his father, whom he used to accompany to the office on a regular basis. In all likelihood, Malone will be spending at least three years in college, and the skills he learns at Cornell will help him mature off the ice as he continues to develop on it. Overall, Jack seems like a great kid with an exciting future as a Canucks prospect who should be fun to follow in the NCAA for the next few seasons. Versatile two-way forward, can play centre or RW, good size and grit, late round NCAA pick. Seems a little like Gaudette. Malone's actually more advanced offensively at the same age -- 59pt in 57GP in his draft year versus Gaudette's 30pt in 50GP. 1 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Late round gem in the mold of Gaudette... way to go JB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 How did this guy fall to the 6th round?....just to be talking about him grouped with the bolded below is unreal... (quote from G.A. above); All five of the players that finished ahead of Malone in scoring were selected in the first four rounds; in fact, four of the five were picked in the first two rounds. In other words, players with a similar statistical profile to Malone’s mostly got picked by the second round of the draft. To get Malone in the sixth round already seems like a steal, but it gets better. If you take the power play out of the equation and just look at 5-on-5 scoring, Malone shoots up to first. His 43 points at 5-on-5 led all first-time draft-eligible players in the USHL last season. Sure, there’s a mild caveat: on a per-game basis, Malone was out-scored at 5-on-5 by Alex Turcotte, Matthew Boldy, Jack Hughes, Cole Caufield, Bobby Brink, and Trevor Zegras. But now we’re talking about first-round picks and one second-round pick that should have gone in the first round in Bobby Brink. Not just first-round picks, either, but players that went in the top fifteen picks of the draft. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 On 9/6/2019 at 4:37 AM, Phat Fingers said: Late round gem in the mold of Gaudette... way to go JB. what NON 1st round pick has JB made that has cracked our lineup and produced? Where is our debrincat, shaw, o reilly, palat, kucherov, johnson, guentzel etc? The top teams in cap trouble have found ufa or college fa or drafted players outside the 1st round who have made the team within a year or 2 and helped them win. Fact is, JB has some interesting selections in some of those rounds but none have become contributing NHL regulars as of yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho_Path Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Well Tryamkin did. Remains to be seen if he'll ever be back with the team though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Canuckster86 said: what NON 1st round pick has JB made that has cracked our lineup and produced? Where is our debrincat, shaw, o reilly, palat, kucherov, johnson, guentzel etc? The top teams in cap trouble have found ufa or college fa or drafted players outside the 1st round who have made the team within a year or 2 and helped them win. Fact is, JB has some interesting selections in some of those rounds but none have become contributing NHL regulars as of yet Finding late rounder that can step right in is an outlier. To have that happen usually requires a solid frame work of top players to build around. IE put player X on Crosbies wing, or with a Kane or Toews etc... and then laud the smart drafting wizards. But often when those players are moved to other teams for picks or prospects, we'll they don't usually have the same success. Burrows and or Hansen with the twins was a similar situation. I predict that we will see an uptick in 'late round gems' as Bo, Brock, Ep40 and Hughes grow into the stars they are currently on course to become. Gaudette looked good as a rookie last year. For a 5th rounder in his first year pro, I am happy. Edited September 8, 2019 by Phat Fingers 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 On 6/25/2019 at 9:51 AM, Googlie said: If he is even 1/2 as good as the other "professor" we drafted in the 214 slot 34 years ago he will have a long career with us same professor who Brian Burke thought was washed up, ended up getting 2 Stanley cup rings years later.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted September 8, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, filthycanuck said: same professor who Brian Burke thought was washed up, ended up getting 2 Stanley cup rings years later.. I don’t know if Burke thought Larionov was washed up. It was more that Igor didn’t want the Russian hockey federation collecting half the money he earned, so after the Canucks couldn’t negotiate a way out, he decided to play a year in the Swiss League, which would effectively break the agreement and end the Russians’ claims on him. With Larionov no longer playing for Vancouver, the Canucks didn’t protect him in the 1992 waiver draft, likely assuming he wouldn’t be claimed anyway since he wasn’t playing in the NHL for the 1992-93 season. In what proved a shrewd move, San Jose claimed his rights in the waiver draft, and then were able to coax Larionov back to the NHL a year later. The rest is history. I do agree about the Professor’s amazing longevity. Including playoffs, I believe he played 1000 NHL games and scored 700 points after the age of 30. That’s pretty impressive stuff. Edited September 8, 2019 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME 2 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Podz92 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Jack Malone got the first goal of Cornell's season on the power play tonight. https://mobile.twitter.com/CUBigRedHockey/status/1190443835723276290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) Our other college Jack had a goal tonight too. First of his collegiate career in the Cornell season opener. EDIT: just beat me @JamesBlondage Edited November 2, 2019 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podz92 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: Our other college Jack had a goal tonight too. First of his collegiate career in the Cornell season opener. EDIT: just beat me @JamesBlondage I was super happy when we drafted this kid. I think he has a decent chance at being a player in the NHL. For some reason he reminds me of Dave Capuano... Edited November 3, 2019 by JamesBlondage Typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 4 hours ago, JamesBlondage said: I wasn't super happy when we drafted this kid. I think he has a decent chance at being a player in the NHL. For some reason he reminds me of Dave Capuano... Don’t know what you expected at the end of the 6th round to make you unhappy about the pick. A lot of unknowns that deep in the draft. No real fallers and they’re all lottery picks. With Brackett and company picking another USHL player I was at least interested given their recent success with picks from that league. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, flickyoursedin said: Don’t know what you expected at the end of the 6th round to make you unhappy about the pick. A lot of unknowns that deep in the draft. No real fallers and they’re all lottery picks. With Brackett and company picking another USHL player I was at least interested given their recent success with picks from that league. Righthand shot, center/wing, 6’1”, 200ish lbs, scored over a point per game in the USHL. Honestly, if we use every 6th rounder until the end of time on players with that kind of profile, you’ll see no complaints from me. To be fair though, I think @JamesBlondage was just admitting he wasn’t super psyched about the Malone pick, which is fair. I don’t think he was really saying it was a bad pick, per se. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 On 9/7/2019 at 10:42 PM, Canuckster86 said: what NON 1st round pick has JB made that has cracked our lineup and produced? Where is our debrincat, shaw, o reilly, palat, kucherov, johnson, guentzel etc? The top teams in cap trouble have found ufa or college fa or drafted players outside the 1st round who have made the team within a year or 2 and helped them win. Fact is, JB has some interesting selections in some of those rounds but none have become contributing NHL regulars as of yet Not enough time to evaluate late round picks, though Demko is not a first rounder and Gaudette looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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