Me_ Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 31 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: I don't know what league you've been following but these days, in the NHL, most good players contribute in the top-half of the lineup well before the age of 25. Not even going to get into the merits of squeaking into the playoffs for the revenue vs. building a true, consistent contender. GM says Cup teams are 26-35 and you say good players contribute in the top half of the lineup we’ll before the age of 25. The two ideas are not synonymous. Benning article In six years, when Pettersson is on his second Cup, the Canucks are still going to draft a 1st round player that will be two years away from making his NHL debut... Edited July 1, 2019 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Pavel the Bure said: Would you rather be young and poor or old and rich ? Ristolianen would cost a fortune in trade, he is not a FA, Ristolianen may not want to play in Vancouver , other team may offer better pieces in trade 9if Buff trade him)...so many questions …. we’re at the tail end of this rebuild.. its hockey, anything can happen.. A glut of strong D in Buffalo now that they traded a 2nd and a 5th for Colin Miller. Maybe we offer a 2nd and a 5th and Bartschi ? Or?? For Risto,. Whom Boterhill feels is not performing up to expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, hammertime said: Honestly if the number is 6.5 x6 im ok with that. Hughes Myers Edler Stetcher Hutton?? Tanev Juolevi Woo Tryamkin? possibly the following year Is it an overpayment sure but I see the merit of putting a big shot next to Hughes. who eles is out there? how long do you wait? we have waited years, JB has never addressed it, why get desperate now...to save his job!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Canuckster86 said: we have waited years, JB has never addressed it, why get desperate now...to save his job!? Who's "desperate"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dave "The Hammer" Schultz said: Myers isnt a top 3 def , so people in vancouver better understand that, esp if he is signed by van ....like others have said, hes 4-5th ....but im sure van will want him to be something he isnt which will make the fans hate him more...:( so a no win situation for myers You’ve seen Vans D core right? Of course he’ll be a number 3. Maybe even a number 2 if Taney can’t stay healthy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: we have waited years, JB has never addressed it, why get desperate now...to save his job!? Rebuild is over. Time to make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, hammertime said: curious what you'd pay Tryamkin? He is presently making 728k usd with Avtomobilist.. i think it would be fair to offer him 2.5 to bridge him to UFA,. But of course options to resign and up before that (if possible). I seriously hope to see Nik worth 3.5 - 4 mil after his first full season with us. He has the lineage of a player strong into his 30’s. ps. I beleive he was offered 2.5 just before he left. Edited July 1, 2019 by SilentSam Ps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Just now, Me_ said: Rebuild is over. Time to make the playoffs. If the rebuild is over, I sure dont hold my hopes too high on this team being competitive, we severely lack depth/skill in all areas still imo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Alflives said: Do these so called insiders know more or even less than we do? We need to remember these guys are propaganda puppets for the teams and the agents. Their inside information is all too often only intended as deflection from the the truth. My point is have you heard a single report from any other team other than the Canucks having interest in Tyler Myers. Yet it seems in everyones opinion we are going to over pay for him. If we are the only team interested (other than him re-signing with the jets) shouldn't the bidding be low. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Just now, Canuckster86 said: If the rebuild is over, I sure dont hold my hopes too high on this team being competitive, we severely lack depth/skill in all areas still imo hughes, petey, bosser, Horvat, gaudette and our goaltending will all prob be better this year, plus on paper we are significantly better than last year with Pearson, jt miller, Myers and the new and improved markstrom. our ability to become a contender really depends on petey, bess, bo, hughes demko, podkolzin, gaudette, madden, Virtanen, Hollander, woo, Juolevi that's our new core 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: we have waited years, JB has never addressed it, why get desperate now...to save his job!? Our D has been a weakness.. it needs addressing now to support our offensive game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: If the rebuild is over, I sure dont hold my hopes too high on this team being competitive, we severely lack depth/skill in all areas still imo Rebuild and Cup are not synonymous in stage. Edited July 1, 2019 by Me_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, babalu said: My point is have you heard a single report from any other team other than the Canucks having interest in Tyler Myers. Yet it seems in everyones opinion we are going to over pay for him. If we are the only team interested (other than him re-signing with the jets) shouldn't the bidding be low. Have we heard of any team interested in Jake Gardiner? Maybe some guys prefer the quiet approach? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Have we heard of any team interested in Jake Gardiner? Maybe some guys prefer the quiet approach? Montreal and Philly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babalu Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Have we heard of any team interested in Jake Gardiner? Maybe some guys prefer the quiet approach? Although it was public news when he visited vancouver, You would think there would be some report of interest somewhere on the interwebs. I have tried to find any indication or suggestion that any other team has interest and I can't find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: If the rebuild is over, I sure dont hold my hopes too high on this team being competitive, we severely lack depth/skill in all areas still imo We have a lot of skill, and our depth is better than it’s been in a long time. JB is bringing in guys like Miller and Myers and Benn on the big club. He’s got younger guys ready to call up in case of injury on the farm. And he’s got a boatload of top end young prospects who will be pushing for spots at both the NHL and AHL levels over the next 1 to 4 years. He’s actually built a team that’s going to compete for the next 7 years for sure, and likely a full decade. I was critical of JB’s method, but I respect his results. He’s done a good job, and I’m happy as a fan. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 34 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: Not even going to get into the merits of squeaking into the playoffs for the revenue vs. building a true, consistent contender. no merit - to the assumption that your 'way' would lead to consistent contending, or that Benning's will result in being trapped in medocrity/purgatory. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 14 minutes ago, Canucks Curse said: hughes, petey, bosser, Horvat, gaudette and our goaltending will all prob be better this year, plus on paper we are significantly better than last year with Pearson, jt miller, Myers and the new and improved markstrom. our ability to become a contender really depends on petey, bess, bo, hughes demko, podkolzin, gaudette, madden, Virtanen, Hollander, woo, Juolevi that's our new core Our Goaltending stood on its head almost all of last year. Dont know how much more they can improve when they have a subpar D core infront of them 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 1 minute ago, babalu said: Although it was public news when he visited vancouver, You would think there would be some report of interest somewhere on the interwebs. I have tried to find any indication or suggestion that any other team has interest and I can't find it. Maybe Myers’ wife, being a Kelowna girl, wants to be home? Maybe there is no need to look elsewhere for Tyler? Maybe he wanted to be here for a while, and now he’s got the chance he doesn’t want to screw it up? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: We have a lot of skill, and our depth is better than it’s been in a long time. JB is bringing in guys like Miller and Myers and Benn on the big club. He’s got younger guys ready to call up in case of injury on the farm. And he’s got a boatload of top end young prospects who will be pushing for spots at both the NHL and AHL levels over the next 1 to 4 years. He’s actually built a team that’s going to compete for the next 7 years for sure, and likely a full decade. I was critical of JB’s method, but I respect his results. He’s done a good job, and I’m happy as a fan. What results do we have. EP looks stellar, he is also a high end pick, Jake...drafted just as high, seems to be a 3rd liner with a lower hockey iq that as of now hasn't shown he can play with the top 6 guys or hasn't earned the coaches trust to be put in that spot. Boat load of top end talent? Who do we have waiting in the wings that is NOT on the NHL roster...Podz? 2 years away then who? I dont see any high end talent in the A ready for a call up pounding on the door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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