Jaku Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: And can Hutton play that role effectively? Yes. But not worth 4.4M per year for 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 If you qualify him, he costs too much. I think they are confident about getting a top 4D like Myers enough to take the chance on Hutton leaving. They can still sign him just have to compete with everyone else, much like how Justin Schultz wasn’t qualified by the Penguins then re-signed for less than his QO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Jaku said: Yes. But not worth 4.4M per year for 4 years. They could just do a one year qualifying offer 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: I like, but where’s Tanev? He’s likely gone from Vancouver after this contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny in Vancouver Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I hope the Canucks keep Hutton as I think he will show even more improvement this coming season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Jaku said: Yes. But not worth 4.4M per year for 4 years. If Hutton likes it here enough, I wonder what he would sign for to stay? Is 2.5 too much? He was making 2.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brbetts542 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Hutton has peaked, we know what he is now and was overpaid on his last contract. He doesn’t have a future on this team if we want a playoff caliber d. There’s way better options out there at 2mil or less. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: Do you think he'll circle back and re-sign with the Canucks cheaper? That would be a little awkward in the room. I think if he's gone, he's gone. It sounds like Benning is busy looking for at least 2 Ds. He's also been talking to Tryamkin's people and he seems confident Nikita will be back at some point. Is it possible that Tryamkin could be in a Canucks uniform this fall? Maybe Juolevi's recovery is going well and they expect him to make the team later in the year? Tanev could also be traded, so the D could look very different next season. Edler - UFA Tryamkin* - Hughes UFA - Stecher Juolevi I don't think it's awkward at all. If you look at the comparables, Hutton does not look good with 4 Mill. It'd be actually AWKWARD if he got it and came into the room performing like has for the past couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richado Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 GM MG OUT GM'D AGAIN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 22 minutes ago, Duodenum said: If the Lightning drafted that player in the 6th round, the Canucks could've drafted that same player in the 5th round or 4th round. As for Benning, if we don't end up with not having anyone of significance coming out of later of the 2nd round then, yes, he'll have failed as Gillis did. I agree but at the same time I would think it also depends where the scouts were focused at that time. It's quite completely possible the Canucks scout never even looked at those players. Theres hundreds and hundreds of kids all over the world cant look at them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, Dazzle said: I don't think Vancouver likes what Hutton can get through RFA Arbitration, hence they don't qualify him so that the team can re-negotiate a fairer contract. I don't think anyone here (including Hutton) believes he deserves 4M. Hutton will re-sign with the Canucks with a better cap hit. I'm sure of it. This happened to Pouliot last year and thy resigned him..I think Van will offer 2.5 million and if he doesn't sign that okay.. Jordie Benn, 6'2 gritty , avg 18 mins per game last year local guy, home town discount 2.5 million maybe.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 2 hours ago, aGENT said: Conversely it allows you little balls of hate to spin it negatively as well Your flaw is thinking there's only one 'right' way to rebuild. I have no such limitations. We've been complete ass, and, 5 years later, there's nothing to suggest that'll we'll be anything more than 1st round and out team over the next few years. I've yet to see the fruits of Benning's particular rebuild "plan". So far all I've seen is a bunch top 10 picks, something you or I or Joe Blow could have accomplished as GM. Step 1: Be the worst team in the league Step 2: Draft high What a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: If Hutton likes it here enough, I wonder what he would sign for to stay? Is 2.5 too much? He was making 2.8. His qualifying offer would have been 2.8M. So it would have been higher than that. Maybe as a UFA he signs at 2.5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Dazzle said: I don't think it's awkward at all. If you look at the comparables, Hutton does not look good with 4 Mill. It'd be actually AWKWARD if he got it and came into the room performing like has for the past couple of years. The Canucks didn't offer him a contract, so I'm not sure why they would later. Seems strange to me but I guess it could happen. Some other team could pick him up too. Benning said he was going to overhaul the D, so my guess this is part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 minute ago, kanucks25 said: We've been complete ass, and, 5 years later, there's nothing to suggest that'll we'll be anything more than 1st round and out team over the next few years. I've yet to see the fruits of Benning's particular rebuild "plan". So far all I've seen is a bunch top 10 picks, something you or I or Joe Blow could have accomplished as GM. Step 1: Be the worst team in the league Step 2: Draft high What a plan. You should open your eyes then, you're missing a LOT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Just now, Jaku said: His qualifying offer would have been 2.8M. So it would have been higher than that. Maybe as a UFA he signs at 2.5. Heard on the radio out here that the Sens will want Hutton. It’s whether Hutton will want them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I dont care what our D situation was this past season, our GM should have known he wasn't willing to pay Hutton his arbitration rate and he should has moved Ben at the TDL for a draft pick. This screams PISS POOR asset management, only cements it in stone that JB is not the right guy for the job. I am glad the owners have note extended him, he doesnt deserve it. He is trying to save his job with the JT trade and who knows what else in FA on July 1. Best of luck Ben, your not worth 4m imo, your a great #5 fringe #4 D in the NHL. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Just now, aGENT said: You should open your eyes then, you're missing a LOT. So far the only defense of Benning is that we have Pettersson, Hughes and Boeser to look forward to and guess what: all of them are the result of us being ass and drafting high. That's not a plan, that's just being ass. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Just now, Alflives said: Heard on the radio out here that the Sens will want Hutton. It’s whether Hutton will want them? The Sens can throw a ridiculous overpriced contract and probably will. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Just now, NUCKER67 said: The Canucks didn't offer him a contract, so I'm not sure why they would later. Seems strange to me but I guess it could happen. Some other team could pick him up too. Benning said he was going to overhaul the D, so my guess this is part of it. It's a qualifying offer, not a contract. Hutton therefore becomes UFA, which allows Hutton to talk to other teams. However, I think he'll make every opportunity to re-sign with the Canucks. After all, Virtanen is one of his best friends here and I'm sure Hutton understands that he doesn't deserve an unjustified raise to 3-4 Mill. He can either go to another team or he can re-sign with the Canucks for a fairer price. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: I dont care what our D situation was this past season, our GM should have known he wasn't willing to pay Hutton his arbitration rate and he should has moved Ben at the TDL for a draft pick. This screams PISS POOR asset management, only cements it in stone that JB is not the right guy for the job. I am glad the owners have note extended him, he doesnt deserve it. He is trying to save his job with the JT trade and who knows what else in FA on July 1. Best of luck Ben, your not worth 4m imo, your a great #5 fringe #4 D in the NHL. And here’s another one folks! You understand that it’s quite possible that no one wanted him and even if he could have gotten a late round pick the defence was so depleted we were icing half of Utica back there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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