McBackup Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Where's Wellwood said: A retroactive penalty in the current CBA which Aquillini agreed to. It's BS that other teams weasel out of it, but our owner agreed to this. Right Aquilini should have just not signed it. That would have gone well. Why didn’t he think of that? What a dumbass. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Bobrovski must’ve agreed to a Panthers contract , only to be made official July 1st. Which means Panarin could’ve done the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 As he stated, "My contract sucks." Next we flipped Kes to the Ducks Times to recapture Forgotten the rapture Thanks Lu, who stopped lotsa' pucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 24K PureCool said: MG said he would fight tooth or nail if the capture is ever applied. Time to re-hire MG? And this is why you don't trust someone who expects themselves to still be here when it happens in an industry practically based on firing GMs and coaches. Anyone who's buying that he'd fight it after 10 years is so gullible that I have a piece of swampland for sale..... Edited June 26, 2019 by The Lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosmo Kramer Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I remember the day we acquired Luongo, it was on the front page of the newspaper. I was so excited, he was my favorite goalie at the time and I couldn't believe we got him. He came in and absolutely stood on his head for us for the first couple years. Changed his style after that groin injury but ultimately he was a terrific player. Remember the special with Bobby Lu reading his poem or haiku? Whatever it was. "Luuuuuuu.....Beautiful" Or the twisted tune of "Lola" redone as Luongo. "Well he is the teams most passionate guy and he saves our ass almost every night yeah Luongo! La la la Luongo!" He really seemed to enjoy his time here until the last couple years when the gong show began. He gave it his all for us. I think he was treated unfairly at times, all goalies get blown out sometimes, he couldn't score goals for our offense starved team in the end. Thank you Roberto You were one of my favorites What a shame you never got a Vezina or the cup. Have a great retirement. Now let's see if we get slapped with recapture, I assume we will, in typical Canuck fashion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanless Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 So the free agency class of 2022 looks decent with players like Coutourier, Seth Jones, Alexandre Barkov. This could and should be the year the Canucks make a big free agent splash to compete for the cup. All things said and done today, hopefully the hockey gods give us a break to get Eriksson gone, but if he rides it out as is his right the Canucks would get 9 million in space from those two contracts/penalties off the books. Hopefully for the time being Juolevi and eventually Woo turn into must have type players. The team can still be competitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubuya Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 To be honest it's probably better to start absorbing the recapture over the next two seasons than to have a huge recapture penalty for the last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Seriously I think you guys are dumb to think Florida is offering him a higher paying job so that he retires instead of ltir.. why would they want to pay him more and take a cap recapture vs pay him less and no recapture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Warhippy said: I have said it once, twice a hundred times. The Luongo deal was ratified under the old CBA. As such it was agreed upon by the team, 29 different owners and the leagues head offices and NHLPA. The joke about the "Luongo rule" after they changed the rules was that the league would try to enforce this but lose because it was signed in good faith. If the league attempts to hold the Canucks liable after changing the parameters of the contracts than no court in the world would side with the league. Because at days end, this was signed off on under the old CBA and at no point in time can you change the terms of an agreement after they are signed. I don't recall Luongo agreeing to a rule change and as he was one of the signatories of this contract it is still binding under the old rules as well. I hope Luongo finds a "medical illness" but at the same time hope he outright retires as the greatest goalie to never win a cup because the Canucks would destroy the league in a court fight on this period. For further reference about "rule changes" see the NJD Kovalcash issue in which the league fined NJ but then relented once, then twice and gave them their pick back You're quite right. I just hope the Canucks don't let this slide, and fight it as they should. There is no way that the Canucks should have that amount count towards their cap hit. It's too bad Lu couldn't have just looked for a medical reason not to play, as it sounds like his body no longer works, but he always did have a big ego - it's part of the package, so announcing his retirement early rather than helping out Florida or Vancouver through medical tests / rationale to omit the cap relevance seems a bit like a me-above-the-teams move. Edited June 26, 2019 by Slegr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) I live in Calgary. Usually go to at least one Canucks game a year at the Saddledome. But I only went to one game this season, against the Panthers. Rocked my Luongo stick-in-rink jersey. Good to see him go out on his own terms. Edited June 26, 2019 by D-Money 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GritGrinder Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x6JfswZG9I0#menu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Alflives said: Yet another gift from former GM Mike Gillis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thepress83 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Congrats to Luongo, he was a great goalie for us but the recapture penalty really sucks and isn't fair but that's for another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Aqua should have fought this during the last lockout. If my understanding is correct, he could have held up the whole damn league. They would have caved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EP Phone Home Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) I guess there wasn’t any room left on Robida island for poor Lu! Hossa,Prongs,Callahan all sitting pretty on the beach. Joffrey Lupul was not in good shape to play and his contract gets swept under as well. Only the Canucks that get the punishment. No wonder why they labeled the rule the “Luongo rule”, it’s a good thing we have cap space, won’t get all the FA shopping that we were hoping for. Perhaps a blessing in disguise. That said about the present, I will and hopefully all long time Canucks fans will always remember the past and what a great goalie Lu was for this franchise. He got us to one game of winning it all, won the country gold in his adopted city and broke numerous records for this team. Those are memories he gave us and I am forever grateful that he gave us those. WE LOVE LU! Now and forever! Edited June 26, 2019 by EP Phone Home 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 And of course because it’s the Canucks luck we get recap penalty and other team get away with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealistOptimist Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 (edited) So I am surprised this actually happened. Everybody I have ever heard talk about this on the radio (Kevin Woolley repeatedly and Brian Burke) sounded so sure Luongo would just go onto LTIR for the remainder of his contract instead of retiring. I just wanted to apologize to everyone who ever started a topic about or brought up Luongo’s cap recapture penalty, I often said it was pointless to talk about. Anyways I was dead wrong and you were all right haha. Anyways with this $3 million cap hit plus Millers $5.25 million dollar cap hit, Boesers $6-7 million cap hit (assumption) plus other RFAs, we are running out of cap space quick. We still have players who we can try and move to clear up more cap space like Brandon Sutter or a Louis Eriksson post July 1, only worth trading if you don’t take a worse contract (Lucic). What once looked like a free agency period where we could sign 2 big name players, is quickly becoming maybe 1 big name player or more likely 1 2nd tier player overpaid long term (because it’s Free agency). Should we still try and sign 1 of the top free agents or because of our quickly disintegrating cap space, should we just be patient in free agency and maybe try and actually steal a good player (via trade) from a team in cap hell? Edited June 26, 2019 by TheRealistOptimist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maketherightmove Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 12 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Aqua should have fought this during the last lockout. If my understanding is correct, he could have held up the whole damn league. They would have caved. What's more likely, 29 owners cave to the desire of 1 or 1 caves to the desires of 29? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, VegasCanuck said: He says it right in his letter, he's having health issues, problems with his hip. He needed to stop playing, I think the Canucks can appeal the recapture based on a number of things, including that. there's a clear conflict of interest here. Florida gets 1) to clear cap space, 2) clear a roster spot, 3) not carry LTIR money. If this was fair, Florida would carry their portion of the recapture and not us. At the very least, we should be able to count our recapture as LTIR money since he says he needed to retire due to hip problems. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Goblin Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 GREAT SAVE LUONGO! OH WHAT A SAVE BY LUONGO! BINGO BANGO BONGO, HIS NAME IS ROBERTO LUONGO! Acquiring Luongo is definitely in the top 3 best trades in Canucks history next to acquiring Nazzy. Best goalie to never win a Cup! Thank you LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU! 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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