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[Rumor] Boeser Camp Eyeing 4 Year Deal Worth $28M

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32 minutes ago, fanfor42 said:

Hey partner why don't you give the boeser bashing a rest.  We get it. He's unsigned so you can spout off. Teams struggled for a few years. How about getting behind them.

I don't think @stawns is bashing him, just trying to speculate on the rumours that Boeser's agent is looking for 7 mil/season or more.

 

  

Edmonton OilersEDM 23 C, LW, RW Left   UFA $8,500,000 $9,000,000
Carolina HurricanesCAR 21 C, LW Left   UFA $8,454,000 $12,000,000
Toronto Maple LeafsTOR 23 RW, C Right   UFA $6,962,366 $9,000,000
Calgary FlamesCGY 25 LW Left   UFA $6,750,000 $6,750,000
Boston BruinsBOS 23 RW Right   UFA $6,666,666 $6,800,000
Calgary FlamesCGY 24 C Left   UFA $6,375,000 $6,750,000
Colorado AvalancheCOL 23 C, RW Right   UFA $6,300,000 $6,750,000
Winnipeg JetsWPG 26 C Right   UFA $6,125,000 $6,750,000
Detroit Red WingsDET 22 C, LW Left   UFA $6,100,000 $7,000,000
Edmonton OilersEDM 26 C, LW Left   UFA $6,000,000 $6,000,000
Chicago BlackhawksCHI 26 RW, LW Left   UFA $6,000,000 $6,750,000
Nashville PredatorsNSH 24 LW Right   UFA $6,000,000 $6,000,000
13. Timo Meier
San Jose SharksSJS 22 LW, RW Left   RFA $6,000,000 $4,000,000
Pittsburgh PenguinsPIT 24 LW, RW Left   UFA $6,000,000 $7,000,000
Winnipeg JetsWPG 23 RW, LW Left   UFA $6,000,000 $6,500,000
Vegas Golden KnightsVGK 26 C Left   UFA $5,900,000 $5,900,000
Florida PanthersFLA 23 C Left   UFA $5,900,000 $6,900,000
Florida PanthersFLA 26 LW, C Left NMC UFA $5,900,000 $6,200,000
Arizona CoyotesARI 23 C Right   UFA $5,850,000 $3,000,000
San Jose SharksSJS 25 C, RW Left   UFA $5,625,000 $6,250,000
Colorado AvalancheCOL 26 LW Left M-NTC UFA $5,571,429 $6,000,000
Montreal CanadiensMTL 24 LW, RW, C Left   UFA $5,500,000 $5,500,000
23. Bo Horvat
Vancouver CanucksVAN 24 C Left   UFA $5,500,000 $5,775,000
Carolina HurricanesCAR 24 RW, LW Left   UFA $5,400,000 $6,250,000
New York RangersNYR 26 C Right NMC UFA $5,350,000 $5,350,000
Carolina HurricanesCAR 26 LW, RW Left   UFA $5,250,000 $5,850,000
Vancouver CanucksVAN 26 C, LW, RW Left   UFA $5,250,000 $6,000,000
28. Tom Wilson
Washington CapitalsWSH 25 RW Right   UFA $5,166,666 $4,500,000

 

 

Just for comparison's sake...  here are the top paid forwards in the league under the age of 27 and between 5 to 9 mil/season.    

 

Edit: First number is the cap hit.  

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29 minutes ago, fanfor42 said:

Hey partner why don't you give the boeser bashing a rest.  We get it. He's unsigned so you can spout off. Teams struggled for a few years. How about getting behind them.

How is it bashing when it's facts? If you read his remarks not once does @stawns say not sign him....his pointing out the flaws in Brock's games and if you can't handle hearing that to bad and maybe try engaging in a conversation instead of basically calling him out for not support the team....and here I thought the kids were back in school 

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Boesers deal will get done and all the silly comments about what should happen will be moot.

Fans of the canucks will be fans and the sun will come up.

Talk to you guys when the season starts and we can all be on the same page and pulling together for the team to do well.

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1 hour ago, fanfor42 said:

Boesers deal will get done and all the silly comments about what should happen will be moot.

Fans of the canucks will be fans and the sun will come up.

Talk to you guys when the season starts and we can all be on the same page and pulling together for the team to do well.

See you then

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Jim Benning on Brock Boeser:

 

"We're continuing to talk to Boeser's agent. We're optimistic we can get him signed by next week."

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I think a bridge deal is best for both sides at this point. 3x7. Boeser gets a big pay day and the Canucks get another chance to sign him long term after QH and EP are resigned. Boeser also has to keep improving to get a further increase next time around.

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3 minutes ago, I.Am.Ironman said:

I think a bridge deal is best for both sides at this point. 3x7. Boeser gets a big pay day and the Canucks get another chance to sign him long term after QH and EP are resigned. Boeser also has to keep improving to get a further increase next time around.

yes and no. If he gets one of these back loaded deals he gets the big raise if we want to keep him, or if we can't afford it he walks. 

 

Apparently Marner is looking at a 3 year deal that would require a 12-13 mil QO at the end of it. Watch Dubas do that, I bet he does. 

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1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said:

yes and no. If he gets one of these back loaded deals he gets the big raise if we want to keep him, or if we can't afford it he walks. 

 

Apparently Marner is looking at a 3 year deal that would require a 12-13 mil QO at the end of it. Watch Dubas do that, I bet he does. 

That sucks!!

 

If all the remaining RFAs do that then that'll be the norm going forward for the next batch of RFA bridge deals. 

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4 minutes ago, BPA said:

That sucks!!

 

If all the remaining RFAs do that then that'll be the norm going forward for the next batch of RFA bridge deals. 

Based on Jims history i doubt he's lowballing Boeser on money, the hold up has to be this back loading trend. 

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Just now, Jimmy McGill said:

Based on Jims history i doubt he's lowballing Boeser on money, the hold up has to be this back loading trend. 

If BB has a back loaded deal like Meier where the QO is $10M, do you still make the QO if BB is 70-80pt player?

 

If not, then he becomes a UFA.  And Nucks get nothing in return.

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8 minutes ago, BPA said:

If BB has a back loaded deal like Meier where the QO is $10M, do you still make the QO if BB is 70-80pt player?

 

If not, then he becomes a UFA.  And Nucks get nothing in return.

dunno, maybe? depends what the cap is and what the other deals are I suppose, and what the UFA options might be. 

 

its a crappy trend. It makes these guys harder to trade too since any other team will just get them likely for 1 year rental and/or have to pick up the big QO. 

 

Interestingly enough Hughes will also be a 10.2(c) RFA in 2 seasons, so you have to think about the effect of Brocks deal on that one. 

 

You'd think some of these guys would want mostly bonus money for the potential lock out year. The back loaded deals so far are mostly salary which they would lose, but that bonus money gets paid no matter what I believe. 

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55 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

Based on Jims history i doubt he's lowballing Boeser on money, the hold up has to be this back loading trend. 

Or term...  I suspect the team wants nothing to do with a 4 or 5 year term, and the agent really wants a 4 or 5 year term to give his side as much leverage as possible in the next negotiations.  The actual salary expectations would change a lot depending on the term.

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1 hour ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

 

Gotta REALLY good feeling it’s going to be a 3 year deal. Hopefully 6 mill or less aav

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1 hour ago, I.Am.Ironman said:

I think a bridge deal is best for both sides at this point. 3x7. Boeser gets a big pay day and the Canucks get another chance to sign him long term after QH and EP are resigned. Boeser also has to keep improving to get a further increase next time around.

If we're only getting 3 years, the deal will be way under $7m. If he/his agent wants $7m+, he'll need to be signing for 6 years +.

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The thing I have a hard time wrapping my head around, is that Boeser is not more valuable to this team then Horvat is. Why should he be holding out for a significant increase in what Bo gets?

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On 9/6/2019 at 1:23 AM, mll said:

“Comparables sometimes play a part in a negotiation, but in the case of these players, they really don’t — unless you’re comparing yourself to a 10.2(c) player.”

 

The last star 10.2c winger was Johnny Gaudreau who signed for 6x6.75 in 2016.

 

Given the raise in contracts since then, I think 6-6.5 is the best Brock can hope for given 3 years.

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7 minutes ago, shayster007 said:

The thing I have a hard time wrapping my head around, is that Boeser is not more valuable to this team then Horvat is. Why should he be holding out for a significant increase in what Bo gets?

1.) Inflation.

 

2.) Horvat’s contract is an absolute bargain. 

 

 

That hat being said...it’s purely speculative to say he’s holding out for a significant increase on what Bo gets. 

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