theo5789 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, NUCKER67 said: As they say, the proof will be in the pudding. Let's see how much better TOR is once the season is underway. I look at the Leafs roster and they do have some highly skilled guys, but they don't really have the gritty support players, the ones who actually go to war in the playoffs. Matthews and Kapanen apprently have been feuding for a while, and no longer want to play on the same line. Marner still needs to be signed a huge contract, maybe another team even offer sheets him, knowing TOR's cap restraints. I read about some feud too. Makes you wonder why they simply didn't add Kapanen as a sweetener to offload Zaitsev. Have to wonder if they are exploring trading Matthews as he may become a headcase in the future (I get the impression he's likely the problem). They could probably find a legit 2nd line centerman that would come at a cheaper price which will help along extending their other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 1 hour ago, theo5789 said: I read about some feud too. Makes you wonder why they simply didn't add Kapanen as a sweetener to offload Zaitsev. Have to wonder if they are exploring trading Matthews as he may become a headcase in the future (I get the impression he's likely the problem). They could probably find a legit 2nd line centerman that would come at a cheaper price which will help along extending their other players. That might make me even more interested in Kapanen. If he has the sense to butt heads with that arrogant, ego-limited primadonna - I'd have to respect his young judgement on a certain level - and perhaps a sign of leadership and self-respect as well (hopefully not a mere ego clash) - if so, I'd consider him an even more interesting trade target. Would be interested in asking him what the 'feud' consists of? If the point of it is for Matthews to park his absurd ego and get to work without the puck, kudos to Kapanen - you've gotta wonder who is going to send that message to the GQ superstar? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 If the Leafs lose Marner they're back in the lottery unless they parlay those picks into immediate help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 And now, in the midst of their Marner angst and Kawhi grief, Leaf fans are doubling-down: Worried About the Leafs? Buddy, Just Take a Look at What the Canucks are Doing "Kyle Dubas happens to be one of those smart GMs. Jim Benning, well, is not." https://theleafsnation.com/2019/07/10/worried-about-the-leafs-buddy-just-take-a-look-at-what-the-canucks-are-doing/ Tonnes of gold in there, Jerry, but this is perhaps the topper: "And yet here the Benning Canucks are, inching closer and closer to the $81.5 million ceiling by the day with a roster that screams, at best, “first-round exit”." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Hutton Wink said: If the Leafs lose Marner they're back in the lottery unless they parlay those picks into immediate help. That pick belongs to the Hurricanes. Trading Marleau away with their 1st round pick's gotta be the dumbest move in NHL history. it shows what a disaster their cap was actually. downright embarrassment. Edited July 12, 2019 by MoneypuckOverlord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueDragon23 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Lol TSN The Laffs haven’t even signed or locked up Marner. If he walks, they are barely a playoff team. Ceci is garbage, Kerfoot is no better than Kadri, their defence is still Swiss cheese (Barrie will help though ..... for one year ) and they also are incredibly soft. There isn’t a single player that is intimidating. And seriously... TSN put the OILERS right behind us?? And why is San Jose so high? Sure they resigned Karlsson and Meir but lost Pavelski and still haven’t resigned Thornton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Hutton Wink said: "And yet here the Benning Canucks are, inching closer and closer to the $81.5 million ceiling by the day with a roster that screams, at best, “first-round exit”." So, we're as good as the Leafs, then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, BlueDragon23 said: Lol TSN The Laffs haven’t even signed or locked up Marner. If he walks, they are barely a playoff team. Ceci is garbage, Kerfoot is no better than Kadri, their defence is still Swiss cheese (Barrie will help though ..... for one year ) and they also are incredibly soft. There isn’t a single player that is intimidating. And seriously... TSN put the OILERS right behind us?? And why is San Jose so high? Sure they resigned Karlsson and Meir but lost Pavelski and still haven’t resigned Thornton. Kerfoot is a huge downgrade if he is in their bottom 6. Kadri can play an agitating role and actually put up offence, Kerfoot is a 5'10 guy with little speed for his size and no grit. He couldn't even sniff 50 points while playing with Rat or Mack. Nikita Zaitsev to Ceci is a outright downgrade, even Senators fans doesn't like Ceci. they looked At Barries stats and think they added an elite defender. offensively it's there but his first pass isn't the greatest and he's a smaller dman. It's also impossible for him to replicate his numbers last year unless Reiley's ice time is reduced which isn't happening. 27 minutes ago, BlueDragon23 said: TSN put the OILERS right behind us?? And why is San Jose so high? Sure they resigned Karlsson and Meir but lost Pavelski and still haven’t resigned Thornton. that's the stupid thing about the article. Karlsson was already there last year and not a summer addition. It will be hilarious if the Leafs misses the playoffs next year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, BlueDragon23 said: And seriously... TSN put the OILERS right behind us?? And why is San Jose so high? Sure they resigned Karlsson and Meir but lost Pavelski and still haven’t resigned Thornton. Well, the Oilers bought out one of their better dmen and haven't replaced him, and brought in Mike Smith. #cuprun Meanwhile, San Jose lost their entire 2nd line and a top-4 dman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Silver Ghost Posted July 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 5:12 PM, cdubuya said: Or maybe you are just a bitter Canucks homer who will take any opportunity to take a jab at the Leafs / TSN. Something tells me they will be just fine next year with Matthews, Nylander, Tavares, Reilly, and Barrie as their foundational skaters. Problem for them is there are a lot of very talented teams out there. I personally have no problem with the article. I can't pinpoint 1 other Canadian team who improved more. Quantity does not supplant Quality. Barrie on the leafs > Myers, Ferly, and Miller on the Canucks... who I would agree were the team who improved the next most They gained what? Barrie, Ceci, Kerfoot, and Spezza. But they lost Kadri, Gardiner, Brown, Zaitsev, Marleau, Hainsey, Ennis, and a 1st. And they still haven't signed Marner. I don't see that as anything but getting worse. Barrie on the leafs is an improvement over Gardiner for sure. But every other tradeoff they bled talent and depth to get marginal at best improvement at one position while losing quslity depth players and a 1st with no replacement level player to be found. But Miller, Ferland, Myers, and Benn replacing Spooner, Granlund, Hutton, and Schenn is what you call actual improvement. All without losing any significant pieces off their roster. They made a good trade for 1 year of Barrie. Now they still need to sign Marner and re-up most of their defense after this season. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) On 7/11/2019 at 4:06 PM, Hutton Wink said: And now, in the midst of their Marner angst and Kawhi grief, Leaf fans are doubling-down: Worried About the Leafs? Buddy, Just Take a Look at What the Canucks are Doing "Kyle Dubas happens to be one of those smart GMs. Jim Benning, well, is not." https://theleafsnation.com/2019/07/10/worried-about-the-leafs-buddy-just-take-a-look-at-what-the-canucks-are-doing/ Tonnes of gold in there, Jerry, but this is perhaps the topper: "And yet here the Benning Canucks are, inching closer and closer to the $81.5 million ceiling by the day with a roster that screams, at best, “first-round exit”." Thank you. That was an awesome read. That is what blue koolaid looks like when you convert it into text lol. The ironing - of mocking Benning's cap management, when the ink on the 1st round pick to cap dump Marleau deal hasn't even dried yet - while their biggest signing in UFA was their new shutdown center, Jason Spezza, and they still haven't created the cap with which to sign Mitch Marner. Meanwhile that idiot Benning has wasted his money on Myers at 5 million, Miller at 5.25, Ferland at 3.5 and Benn at 2.0.... 15.75 million for a couple top 6 forwards a top 4 D, and a solid partner for Stecher. So embarassing. I think my favorite part is where the Leafblower fluffs the bottom six - Spezza, Petan, Agostino, and Nick Shore because they only cost 3.7 mllion! That's what happens when you have no allowance left to spend. "No risk"...."no headaches"..... and like their 4th line in their loss to the Bruins....no icetime lol. Dubas is so smart - he don't waste no money on bottom 6zzz. Too busy derping to realize his "trusty pals over at Puckpedia" mislead him / or he misread them lol - believes the Canucks have "exactly 5.058 million" to sign Boeser.... Mike Stephens, Editor in Leaf, just smoked his first. Edited July 13, 2019 by oldnews 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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48MPHSlapShot Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 On 7/11/2019 at 4:06 PM, Hutton Wink said: And now, in the midst of their Marner angst and Kawhi grief, Leaf fans are doubling-down: Worried About the Leafs? Buddy, Just Take a Look at What the Canucks are Doing "Kyle Dubas happens to be one of those smart GMs. Jim Benning, well, is not." https://theleafsnation.com/2019/07/10/worried-about-the-leafs-buddy-just-take-a-look-at-what-the-canucks-are-doing/ Tonnes of gold in there, Jerry, but this is perhaps the topper: "And yet here the Benning Canucks are, inching closer and closer to the $81.5 million ceiling by the day with a roster that screams, at best, “first-round exit”." Just imagine what these people would be saying if we traded a 1st rd pick to get rid of a contract xD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Wouldn't it be great if the Leaves just missed the playoffs this year and then the following year finished in the top 10 and won the lottery? Guess who'd be picking first overall in 2021? Carolina. Then on top of that Matthews signs as a UFA in Arizona 3 years later. The Leaves would be back to square one and the Laffing stock of the NHL (pun intended)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: Wouldn't it be great if the Leaves just missed the playoffs this year and then the following year finished in the top 10 and won the lottery? Guess who'd be picking first overall in 2021? Carolina. Then on top of that Matthews signs as a UFA in Arizona 3 years later. The Leaves would be back to square one and the Laffing stock of the NHL (pun intended)... Frankly, I like our chances of making the playoffs the next two years over the Leafs'. Their pick is only top-10 protected in 2020, and their 2021 could be worse with Barrie and all their D except Reilly being done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 1 hour ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Just imagine what these people would be saying if we traded a 1st rd pick to get rid of a contract xD Well it's better to spend a 1st to get rid of Marleau - no more risk, no headaches - than it is to get stuck with a cap dump like JT MIller. Canucks still have risk, headaches! Dubas smart, Benning not so. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Frankly, I like our chances of making the playoffs the next two years over the Leafs'. Their pick is only top-10 protected in 2020, and their 2021 could be worse with Barrie and all their D except Reilly being done. Yes exactly, that's why I was saying they just miss the playoffs this year, finishing top 10, retain their pick and then with Barrie leaving among others they do finish top 10 in 2021 again where their pick is unprotected and they win the lottery again, but Carolina gets to take the player. Imagine that scenario. They'd have to shut down TSN permanently and probably move the franchise before the riots start... Edited July 13, 2019 by Elias Pettersson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MoneypuckOverlord Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Wouldn't it be great if the Leaves just missed the playoffs this year and then the following year finished in the top 10 and won the lottery? Guess who'd be picking first overall in 2021? Carolina. Then on top of that Matthews signs as a UFA in Arizona 3 years later. The Leaves would be back to square one and the Laffing stock of the NHL (pun intended)... last time those idiots traded away a 1st round pick it was actually a top 2 pick and a top 9 pick. not to mention they didn't trade the pick for something. We at least have J.T Miller in his prime. They got nothing for it, intact the trade was for another team to do em favor which is buy out Marleau. What a gong show. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Ignorance is bliss in Leafville Doesn`t matter what they think. Canucks fans know what Benning is building here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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