48MPHSlapShot Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 9 hours ago, SilentSam said: I think it’s a bridge deal, 2years around 4m per... lets him prove his worth for his best contract. Yes, let's have him come up at the same time Pettersson and Hughes come up. Perfect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman64 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I'm just nervous over the price tag.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 44 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Yes, let's have him come up at the same time Pettersson and Hughes come up. Perfect. .. and perhaps you do the same with them at that time.. “perfect “ might be your world, but this one revolves. Bettman has said that the Cap will get a huge boost at that point.. We will also have other players who could possibly fill Brock’s position at some point, and we can move him for a top pick and keep this wheel going.. at a high level. Hockey and it’s Buissiness is not perfect. Anything can happen. Why do most fans here develop “man crush” with there “Fan Fav’s” ... if they are a good player and a Canuck,. Do they have to die in that uniform? Rare will be the Hockey Player that plays to be 33-35 years... who needs Jimbo’s when you can ice a fresh Podolzkin . You are starting to see the short term high payout for a reason. Turn over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puckster Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 well if Bo is at 5.5 and outscored BB .....I think 5yrs at 6 would be okay, do not want to piss off the Bo where is all this 7-8 mil per year coming from? I really like BB but seriously 66 games per year and scoring in the 80+%bracket .... I would value Bo more! just sayin' 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
18W-40C-6W Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Puckster said: well if Bo is at 5.5 and outscored BB .....I think 5yrs at 6 would be okay, do not want to piss off the Bo where is all this 7-8 mil per year coming from? I really like BB but seriously 66 games per year and scoring in the 80+%bracket .... I would value Bo more! just sayin' The good thing is Bo sets a bit of an internal cap. Much as the twins did. While Boeser may get a bit more given cap inflation the Canucks will point to Bo and say exactly that. I suspect it will be 4 years at 5.5 (same as Bo) and we still have one year of control before UFA. He’d be smart to do that as he’s playing w Petey and will rack up points, the cap will increase, and his next payday will be long and a lot of money. Not that 5.5 x 4 is not a lot of money to play a game you love for a living Edited July 12, 2019 by 18W-40C-6W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 2 hours ago, SilentSam said: .. and perhaps you do the same with them at that time.. “perfect “ might be your world, but this one revolves. Bettman has said that the Cap will get a huge boost at that point.. We will also have other players who could possibly fill Brock’s position at some point, and we can move him for a top pick and keep this wheel going.. at a high level. Hockey and it’s Buissiness is not perfect. Anything can happen. Why do most fans here develop “man crush” with there “Fan Fav’s” ... if they are a good player and a Canuck,. Do they have to die in that uniform? Rare will be the Hockey Player that plays to be 33-35 years... who needs Jimbo’s when you can ice a fresh Podolzkin . You are starting to see the short term high payout for a reason. Turn over. Great, and when one of these "high picks" you move him for doesn't turn out, we're &^@#ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Great, and when one of these "high picks" you move him for doesn't turn out, we're &^@#ed. No.. you don’t assume a pick , high or low, to automatically make the team.. your expectation is that he goes into the system.. Hypothetically in this case Podolzkin would come up out of the system in 2-3 years. There’s a rotation that you try to adhere to in a system, patience, timing, .. all keeping you honest with your ELC’s and keeping the system balanced and focused. Seems like your way you try to sign everybody and flog em for 6 years TIL there’s nothing left.. stagnate your prospect pool, and bury good talent.. hasn’t this team done that already for the past decade? Tanev and Edler are remnants of that. this is just my opinion.. I would be happy to hear yours than read your whiny ridicule. Edited July 12, 2019 by SilentSam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktcy2 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 What is taking so long for this contract to be signed? If there is no cap space then Benning has to ship out someone to make room. There is no reason to delay the Brock signing. Do whatever you have to do JB and get Brock signed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 53 minutes ago, ktcy2 said: What is taking so long for this contract to be signed? If there is no cap space then Benning has to ship out someone to make room. There is no reason to delay the Brock signing. Do whatever you have to do JB and get Brock signed!!! Bo also took his time to get signed. Flows agent obviously is trying to hive his client the best deal available. Maybe he is wanting a contract with the same length as Bo, to make him a free agent at the of it. Length and dollars. Lots to ponder when you are a top elite sportsman. He’ll get signed in due course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teepain Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) Ill guess 4 years at 7.5 Edited July 12, 2019 by teepain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teepain Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 If its 7.5 Canucks sutter 2nd round pick Other team 5th round pick solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 1 hour ago, teepain said: If its 7.5 Canucks sutter 2nd round pick Other team 5th round pick solved damn that's sad we traded a kesler in his prime for pearson and a 5th lol.. at least bonino was useful for the pengs when they won the cup.. sutter is completely useless for us as he's injured for 50% of his contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHarry Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 Brock will sign not sure the price tag or length....it comes down too Cap space. The Loui E situation the more i learn. The more I see him gone and being able to trade the Cap hit. What I understand (correct me if I’m wrong) Sorry I’m slow and not too bright. 6 mil cap hit ! but only a Salary of 3mil per year 2 season to go after July 15th. The 6mil cap hit isn’t real money anymore it’s just a number cap hit. It limits a team spending by 6mil. This can be moved imo. Ottawa? nobody wants Loui for 3mil so Canuck need to eat as much of the 3mil per season as legally possible in the trade. Say half. Thats 1.5 mil. I could be wrong but I think Loui is a 1.5 mil player on a new team with a fresh new start. Loui at 1.5 per season +the none real money 6mil cap hit = possibility of move to get Cap space. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 I'm taking his words at face value. He wants to be here, loves the city, the team is better, and he's not going to easily walk away from playing with Petey, Hughes, etc, just when things are coming together. He'll work to get a deal done as much as we will. My guess is he'll come on at $6 per at 5 years, possibly 4 years. If you look at the trajectory of Jeff Skinner, he just came off a 5 year contract at $5.75 per before getting the most recent bigger payday at $9 per. I'm thinking Boeser will be a similar arc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephnick Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 11 hours ago, ktcy2 said: What is taking so long for this contract to be signed? If there is no cap space then Benning has to ship out someone to make room. There is no reason to delay the Brock signing. Do whatever you have to do JB and get Brock signed!!! Eriksson's bonus is up next week, after which he'll be much easier to move. There's a chance they're waiting to see how that plays out? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 This kid just bleeds character. I often compare Brock to Laine. Both righty snipers and neither elite skaters. I would never trade Brock for Laine. I hope this kid raises a cup in a Canucks jersey. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 17 hours ago, SilentSam said: .. and perhaps you do the same with them at that time.. “perfect “ might be your world, but this one revolves. Bettman has said that the Cap will get a huge boost at that point.. We will also have other players who could possibly fill Brock’s position at some point, and we can move him for a top pick and keep this wheel going.. at a high level. Hockey and it’s Buissiness is not perfect. Anything can happen. Why do most fans here develop “man crush” with there “Fan Fav’s” ... if they are a good player and a Canuck,. Do they have to die in that uniform? Rare will be the Hockey Player that plays to be 33-35 years... who needs Jimbo’s when you can ice a fresh Podolzkin . You are starting to see the short term high payout for a reason. Turn over. I would facetiously like to ask, what are your thoughts on throwing in Tryamkin's rights into a Loui deal as a "sweetener"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, RWMc1 said: I would facetiously like to ask, what are your thoughts on throwing in Tryamkin's rights into a Loui deal as a "sweetener"? Never. Thats like peeing in your Corn Flakes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 19 hours ago, iceman64 said: I'm just nervous over the price tag.. He doesn't have much negotiating power if JB is willing to be patient. He can't get offer sheets and he doesn't have an arbitration option. The cap didn't go up and he hasn't produced as much as Bo has. I believe the reason he hasn't been signed yet is because JB wants term and value. Given the lack of options, Boeser could end up being another player on a great contract. The value of those college players starting on those late season deals is becoming important to future negotiations. Quinn Hughes should be paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, komodo0921 said: He doesn't have much negotiating power if JB is willing to be patient. He can't get offer sheets and he doesn't have an arbitration option. The cap didn't go up and he hasn't produced as much as Bo has. I believe the reason he hasn't been signed yet is because JB wants term and value. Given the lack of options, Boeser could end up being another player on a great contract. The value of those college players starting on those late season deals is becoming important to future negotiations. Quinn Hughes should be paying attention. What top dollar RFAs have signed? Mier got 6 right? That’s with the SAN Jose discount, of course. Who else? It’s almost like a lot of teams are putting their proverbial foot down and refusing to pay the crazy big dollars to RFAs this go round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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