(Discuss) NHL news - negative slant compared to other teams or am I becoming a homer?

[Pete M]

Okay, I read a lot of hockey stuff including the NHL website...

 

See a lot of news about other teams progression and positive outlook with their signings, trades and drafts; however, when it comes to the Canucks, see a lot of this...

 

Boeser far away from contract...however, latest news "Boeser confident contract will get done with Canucks"

"Eriksson's remarks about coach Green don't concern Canucks"

 

On the other hand, they did report on Edler, Myers, Miller, Benn, and Ferland signings and trades, and Petterson winnining the Calder, and

"Miller sees 'tons of potential' after trade to Canucks"

 

...still waiting for the real news which ties everything together...or maybe JB is not done yet.

 

"Canucks reset and become bigger, stronger, faster with their trades, signings and draft selections".

[Papa Sawce]

It’s always been like that, I don’t even go to nhl.com anymore. Even last year everyone was saying we were gunna be bottom feeders in super negative articles throughout the summer, we were in playoff contention down the stretch. It’s better when the team proves everyone wrong.

[Toews]

2 minutes ago, Papa Sawce said:

It’s always been like that, I don’t even go to nhl.com anymore. Even last year everyone was saying we were gunna be bottom feeders in super negative articles throughout the summer, we were in playoff contention down the stretch. It’s better when the team proves everyone wrong.

You do realize that like 90% of the league is in "playoff contention" down the stretch. Its the function of the loser point, it keeps the standings close until the end. Aside from a couple of bottom feeders everyone is like 6-8 points away from a playoff spot basically throughout the season. We were predictably poor in previous seasons, this year we should expect this team to take a sizeable step but I doubt we will get credit from these writers until we prove it on the ice.

[DJSkingz]

I don't think we will ever be the darlings of the league and I am OK with this. Just 1 cup before I die is all I ask.

[buddhahoodlum]

Honestly, it does kind of bug me a bit. I don't go around spinning a negative narrative about teams I hate. If they've done something stupid like I dunno, trade Hall for Larsson then absolutely I will blast the organization. But I don't know how anyone can say Benning is an idiot for trading a 1st for JT Miller and with the same breath defend Dubas for trading a 1st to get rid of Marleau. As the Canucks improve in the standings I fully expect the vitriol spewed our way to likewise increase. But, we should be icing an exciting, competitive team this year and we're lucky enough to live in a beautiful part of the world so I'm just going to soak up the good vibes of the Lower Mainland. GCG!

[Nucker 67]

I find the Canucks media to almost cheer against them, which is weird. The articles in the paper are usually pretty negative, focusing on the things Benning hasn't done yet. They like to talk about players who struggle and the doom and gloom. Today's article by Ed Willes (who I despise, but will read anyway), he talks about Benning signing all of these "middle guys" for more money than he thinks they're worth, and how that isn't a recipe for success. He also goes on to hint that he's unsure if Horvat is capable of scoring more goals to carry this team. Just rubbish. And this is the local guy lol TSN and SN are a whole other problem.  

 

Benning has made a lot of needed changes to this roster. There's still more work to do, but it is only mid-July. I have confidence by opening day, everyone will be signed and the roster will be set.

 

I don't really see any negative moves by Benning this off season. Flying under the radar is kind of good though too. At least if VAN loses and misses the playoffs, people aren't really surprised, and the Canadian media doesn't really talk about them anyway. But when the same Canadian media pumps the tires of a particular team all year (TOR) and they fail, well, that's just darn funny. Stupid media.      

[Pete M]

6 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

I find the Canucks media to almost cheer against them, which is weird. The articles in the paper are usually pretty negative, focusing on the things Benning hasn't done yet. They like to talk about players who struggle and the doom and gloom. Today's article by Ed Willes (who I despise, but will read anyway), he talks about Benning signing all of these "middle guys" for more money than he thinks they're worth, and how that isn't a recipe for success. He also goes on to hint that he's unsure if Horvat is capable of scoring more goals to carry this team. Just rubbish. And this is the local guy lol TSN and SN are a whole other problem.  

 

Benning has made a lot of needed changes to this roster. There's still more work to do, but it is only mid-July. I have confidence by opening day, everyone will be signed and the roster will be set.

 

I don't really see any negative moves by Benning this off season. Flying under the radar is kind of good though too. At least if VAN loses and misses the playoffs, people aren't really surprised, and the Canadian media doesn't really talk about them anyway. But when the same Canadian media pumps the tires of a particular team all year (TOR) and they fail, well, that's just darn funny. Stupid media.      

Nice line up for the future in your footer (signature)

Edited July 15, 2019 by Pete M

[xereau]

Its called Yellow Journalism.

 

And it is cancer.

[PhillipBlunt]

48 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said:

I find the Canucks media to almost cheer against them, which is weird. The articles in the paper are usually pretty negative, focusing on the things Benning hasn't done yet. They like to talk about players who struggle and the doom and gloom. Today's article by Ed Willes (who I despise, but will read anyway), he talks about Benning signing all of these "middle guys" for more money than he thinks they're worth, and how that isn't a recipe for success. He also goes on to hint that he's unsure if Horvat is capable of scoring more goals to carry this team. Just rubbish. And this is the local guy lol TSN and SN are a whole other problem.  

 

Benning has made a lot of needed changes to this roster. There's still more work to do, but it is only mid-July. I have confidence by opening day, everyone will be signed and the roster will be set.

 

I don't really see any negative moves by Benning this off season. Flying under the radar is kind of good though too. At least if VAN loses and misses the playoffs, people aren't really surprised, and the Canadian media doesn't really talk about them anyway. But when the same Canadian media pumps the tires of a particular team all year (TOR) and they fail, well, that's just darn funny. Stupid media.      

Willes is an immense tool.

[Bubble Man]

1 hour ago, Pete M said:

Okay, I read a lot of hockey stuff including the NHL website...

 

See a lot of news about other teams progression and positive outlook with their signings, trades and drafts; however, when it comes to the Canucks, see a lot of this...

 

Boeser far away from contract...however, latest news "Boeser confident contract will get done with Canucks"

"Eriksson's remarks about coach Green don't concern Canucks"

 

On the other hand, they did report on Edler, Myers, Miller, Benn, and Ferland signings and trades, and Petterson winnining the Calder, and

"Miller sees 'tons of potential' after trade to Canucks"

 

...still waiting for the real news which ties everything together...or maybe JB is not done yet.

 

"Canucks reset and become bigger, stronger, faster with their trades, signings and draft selections".

I seriously don’t understand where you could dig out any Canuck discrimination or blatant, forced negativity. Every single year the media has portrayed us as a team in the NHL ghetto. Every year they have done so, guess where we ended up? 

 

The Ghetto.

 

The media collectively can get some things wrong from time to time but for the most part they aren’t too far off. It’s time people just suck it up and come down to earth to live and prosper with the rest of us. 

[Pete M]

You have a point Bubbleman, the Canucks have been bad in recent years for many reasons...the biggest one being handcuffed by the Sedins decline...the reports across the media have been accurate....however, I believe "Toews" has got it right this time with ...

 

"We were predictably poor in previous seasons, this year we should expect this team to take a sizeable step but I doubt we will get credit from these writers until we prove it on the ice."

 

 

[Jetliner]

not sure why we need NHL.com do pump our tires. We just need to go our there and win

[Bubble Man]

1 hour ago, Pete M said:

You have a point Bubbleman, the Canucks have been bad in recent years for many reasons...the biggest one being handcuffed by the Sedins decline...the reports across the media have been accurate....however, I believe "Toews" has got it right this time with ...

 

"We were predictably poor in previous seasons, this year we should expect this team to take a sizeable step but I doubt we will get credit from these writers until we prove it on the ice."

 

 

EP absolutely killed it in the Calder voting. That is the perfect example of us getting credit where credit is due. He is extremely hyped up by everyone in the media. The steal of his draft class, it’s reverberated around the league. 

 

It’s just that Canucks fans are the most thinned skinned biological matter on the planet. 

[Pete M]

7 minutes ago, Bubble Man said:

EP absolutely killed it in the Calder voting. That is the perfect example of us getting credit where credit is due. He is extremely hyped up by everyone in the media. The steal of his draft class, it’s reverberated around the league. 

 

It’s just that Canucks fans are the most thinned skinned biological matter on the planet. 

idk about that...you might be swayed by a few "homers" who have a louder voice than the majority.

Edited July 15, 2019 by Pete M

[ilduce39]

The “negativity” thing hit critical mass on twitter recently.. hilarious stuff.  

 

Funny how sensitive our media gets about being called out on their biases.  

 

Honestly... of course they’re going to be “negative” as the team has been horrible the last 4 seasons and in a decline for a few before that.  

 

For me, “negative” isn’t the issue - its the condescending, obnoxious and smarmy tone adopted in their writing that has caused me to stop reading.  

 

I also don’t need the reverse-poop sandwich (start with “Benning has been terrible, but....” and end with “the team is still horribly managed.”) every time I read about a “positive” thing.  

[NewbieCanuckFan]

39 minutes ago, Bubble Man said:

It’s just that Canucks fans are the most thinned skinned biological matter on the planet. 

It got Gillis fired.  There is a some good in everything.  (eg., Fire Gillis chants).

[Josepho]

The Canucks have been the 2nd worst team collectively over the past 4 seasons, half of which were spent actively trying to make the playoffs and having all the moves fall flat on their face -- it's very obvious why there's negative emotions directed towards the team.

[oldnews]

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/truth-numbers-best-worst-ufa-contracts-given-far/

 

 

THE BAD

Tyler Myers to the Vancouver Canucks – $6 million AAV for five seasons

 

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Myers is above the equivalent of a fourth liner for defencemen, but not by that much

 

[Rob_Zepp]

3 hours ago, Pete M said:

Okay, I read a lot of hockey stuff including the NHL website...

 

See a lot of news about other teams progression and positive outlook with their signings, trades and drafts; however, when it comes to the Canucks, see a lot of this...

 

Boeser far away from contract...however, latest news "Boeser confident contract will get done with Canucks"

"Eriksson's remarks about coach Green don't concern Canucks"

 

On the other hand, they did report on Edler, Myers, Miller, Benn, and Ferland signings and trades, and Petterson winnining the Calder, and

"Miller sees 'tons of potential' after trade to Canucks"

 

...still waiting for the real news which ties everything together...or maybe JB is not done yet.

 

"Canucks reset and become bigger, stronger, faster with their trades, signings and draft selections".

I follow the Canucks, Panthers and Canes closely but the rest of the league (and other hockey leagues) pretty closely as well and NO team has as many trollish/negative media and social media types than the Vancouver Canucks.   It is not even close.   In Toronto or Chicago, real issues of concern are painted as being "great strides for the team" or "battle testing the group" whereas an issue that is far less of a likely concern in Vancouver brings out all nature of professional media and armchair trolls piling on about how the sky on the Canucks is black and getting darker.    For example, the Leafs could potentially lose Marner to an offer sheet and there is zero progress it appears but no real sense of doom/gloom.   Canucks cannot lose Boeser to an offer sheet AND he has just recently said it will get done and he wants to be here yet you can find a plethora (had wanted to use that word for a week) of "informed" sources talking about how bad this situation is getting and woe be the Canucks due to the Boeser "situation".   

No team in the West improved on paper more than Vancouver did this off-season.   They were perhaps two key injuries away last year from snagging a playoff berth.    They have a young core that includes the reigning Calder winner, the runner up from the season prior, a player who could be in that mix for this coming season and one of the best young goalie prospects in hockey....they signed two top 6-9 forwards who have combined for between 80 and 100 points for past two seasons.....the re-signed their best Dman.....they long-hyped goalie (best not in NHL) found himself last season.....and more....and somehow that requires being negative about their management and their outlook.

[PhillipBlunt]

4 minutes ago, Rob_Zepp said:

I follow the Canucks, Panthers and Canes closely but the rest of the league (and other hockey leagues) pretty closely as well and NO team has as many trollish/negative media and social media types than the Vancouver Canucks.   It is not even close.   In Toronto or Chicago, real issues of concern are painted as being "great strides for the team" or "battle testing the group" whereas an issue that is far less of a likely concern in Vancouver brings out all nature of professional media and armchair trolls piling on about how the sky on the Canucks is black and getting darker.    For example, the Leafs could potentially lose Marner to an offer sheet and there is zero progress it appears but no real sense of doom/gloom.   Canucks cannot lose Boeser to an offer sheet AND he has just recently said it will get done and he wants to be here yet you can find a plethora (had wanted to use that word for a week) of "informed" sources talking about how bad this situation is getting and woe be the Canucks due to the Boeser "situation".   

No team in the West improved on paper more than Vancouver did this off-season.   They were perhaps two key injuries away last year from snagging a playoff berth.    They have a young core that includes the reigning Calder winner, the runner up from the season prior, a player who could be in that mix for this coming season and one of the best young goalie prospects in hockey....they signed two top 6-9 forwards who have combined for between 80 and 100 points for past two seasons.....the re-signed their best Dman.....they long-hyped goalie (best not in NHL) found himself last season.....and more....and somehow that requires being negative about their management and their outlook.

Well said, Zepp. When I go on Bleacher Report, I usually have to wade through a stupid tweet from Grady Sas, finding the negatives in every single aspect of the Canucks operation, with almost gleeful exuberance.

 

These clowns have had the negativity ingrained into their heads by the likes of Patterson, Botchford, Price, Sekeres and many more Tony Gallagher disciples. I'm all for fair and impartial reporting, and do feel that Ben Kuzma might be the closest thing, along with Ryan Biech.