Alflives Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: The most important players are the ones that you can't find through trade or FA, you have to be lucky enough to draft them. With that being the criteria it would be the following in order: 1. Pettersson 2. Hughes 3. Horvat 4. Boeser But the great thing is we don't have to decide. They are the core and we are keeping them all. I think by Christmas we are going to be adding Demko to your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo fan Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I think they are all important and for different reasons - team mates - team sport But that being said my vote went to Bo - I do believe we would all notice if he was gone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Bo Horvat. Petey is our best player but without Horvat Pettersson wouldn’t be able to do what he does. With that said this team can’t go far without either. Justice League needs both Superman and Batman to function. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: I think by Christmas we are going to be adding Demko to your list. Agreed. I truly think Demko will hit his stride and we will either trade Markstrom or sign him and leave him exposed in the expansion draft. If Demko becomes a legit #1 (Which I think he will) and Markstrom is so enticing to Seattle, it may help protect our other D and F and we just need to sign a backup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bo fan said: I think they are all important and for different reasons - team mates - team sport But that being said my vote went to Bo - I do believe we would all notice if he was gone We certainly would notice his presence if we was gone but what if Pettersson was gone. That would be a much bigger presence. Bo is key to us but you can potentially acquire a Bo (O'Reilly, Lee etc) but you can't acquire a Pettersson (Kuznetsov, Point, Aho etc). Those aren't the greatest comparables for Pettersson but that may be because there is nobody like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DADDYROCK Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I remember when Bo H. got hurt,the whole team just went into the dumper. BO (the ox) HORVAT is the legit team captain nominee as far as I'm concerned and the guy who does ALL the heavy lifting for the Canucks. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Your most important player always goes in the middle of your advertising: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHTyrany Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Your most important player always goes in the middle of your advertising: I disagree. It's marketing not reality. Pettey sells tickets and may become the most important player but isn't there yet. He needs to stay healthy and he needs his teammates to help protect him when the league continues to fail him and the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, NHTyrany said: I disagree. It's marketing not reality. Pettey sells tickets and may become the most important player but isn't there yet. He needs to stay healthy and he needs his teammates to help protect him when the league continues to fail him and the club. Posting the advertising was intended as a joke, however I do still agree that he is our most important player. His drive, skillset, being a #1 center, ability to attract players etc etc etc still makes him our most important player IMO. If there is any player that you don't want out of your lineup, it's him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 hours ago, debluvscanucks said: Petey changes EVERYTHING. Not to undermine the others (especially Bo), but even he would recognize that. The buzz he's generated and the fact that players now want to come here. It's just obvious. I look at this question like "remove one player from the line up to see the most dramatic result". ^^^This. Boeser and Horvat are great but Petey is attracting free agents who will sign for a reasonable number 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHTyrany Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 39 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Posting the advertising was intended as a joke, however I do still agree that he is our most important player. His drive, skillset, being a #1 center, ability to attract players etc etc etc still makes him our most important player IMO. If there is any player that you don't want out of your lineup, it's him. Agree and hope he can stay in the line up without too much injury. He will be a huge target next year. I like the new team size and hope they can set a few rules for other teams' agitators and goons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted July 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Crabcakes said: ^^^This. Boeser and Horvat are great but Petey is attracting free agents who will sign for a reasonable number Petey and Quinn are special players. Getting both is what prompted JB to move forward with his compete now moves. Those two very unique talents are why our window for winning is now open. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Just now, Alflives said: Petey and Quinn are special players. Getting both is what prompted JB to move forward with his compete now moves. Those two very unique talents are why our window for winning is now open. Absolutely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, NHTyrany said: Agree and hope he can stay in the line up without too much injury. He will be a huge target next year. I like the new team size and hope they can set a few rules for other teams' agitators and goons. It was definitely becoming a problem but Benning addressed the toughness which is good. Should help insulate him while he gets stronger himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EB43 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, N7Nucks said: Bo Horvat. Petey is our best player but without Horvat Pettersson wouldn’t be able to do what he does. With that said this team can’t go far without either. Justice League needs both Superman and Batman to function. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 I'd say Bo, he's the one who can help your team win in any way (can play defensively and score, can play physically, can attack off the rush, can make things work even with below-average wingers). Bo can also step up to play top-line minutes in a pinch but I would hesitate to Pete playing on the PK or in physical games. Remember the most recent Olympics? Team Canada handily stymied the Swedes 3-0. Blues-Bruins this past Cup Final? Blues' physicality shut down the Bruins' top-6 talents (Marchand, Bergeron, Pastrnak, Krejci, DeBrusk) and O'Reilly took home the Conn Smythe. All round centers' values go up when the post-season comes around, and while I'm not saying Pete doesn't have some degree of grit (and on top of that he's definitely a game-breaking talent), he's not the bull that Bo is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 As of this moment, I'll say Bo. If Petey can improve on his numbers from last year and become our franchise centerman, then I'll switch my vote, but as of now he still needs to prove himself in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Markstrom hands down. If people think otherwise they don't understand hockey. If I am in net the Canucks go 0-82. If I play center instead of Petey the Canucks go 1-81 at least. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Chris12345 said: Markstrom hands down. If people think otherwise they don't understand hockey. If I am in net the Canucks go 0-82. If I play center instead of Petey the Canucks go 1-81 at least. I know this post is tongue in cheek, but you definitely have a case, as far as last year goes. Markstrom led the Canucks in GAR (28.8) and WAR (5.1). Next closest was Petey with 15.7 GAR and 2.8 WAR. No other Canucks above 10 GAR and 2 WAR. (GAR=goals above replacement; WAR=wins above replacement; stats per Evolving Hockey) This is a big reason why we have to hope Markstrom’s 2018-19 season wasn’t just a fluke and a one off. His WAR stats were actually the 8th best in the entire NHL, among goalies. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris12345 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: I know this post is tongue in cheek, but you definitely have a case, as far as last year goes. Markstrom led the Canucks in GAR (28.8) and WAR (5.1). Next closest was Petey with 15.7 GAR and 2.8 WAR. No other Canucks above 10 GAR and 2 WAR. (GAR=goals above replacement; WAR=wins above replacement; stats per Evolving Hockey) This is a big reason why we have to hope Markstrom’s 2018-19 season wasn’t just a fluke and a one off. His WAR stats were actually the 8th best in the entire NHL, among goalies. Well my point was goaltending is the most important position regardless of the player. If a goalie stops every shot, it's a guranteed win. I am glad your stats back it up. Guaranteed you lose without a goalie. You can still win without your No.1 forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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