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Lucic can do this to bullies. 

What is Loui’s Intangibles game? 

 

They're all awful contracts, sure, yawn, but at least one guy can handle opposing bullies while he steadily declines into oblivion.

These past few years could have used some of that more than it needed Neal or Loui. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said:

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Lucic can do this to bullies. 

What is Loui’s Intangibles game? 

 

They're all awful contracts, sure, yawn, but at least one guy can handle opposing bullies while he steadily declines into oblivion.

These past few years could have used some of that more than it needed Neal or Loui. 

 

 

"The little things"

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12 hours ago, 189lb enforcers? said:

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Lucic can do this to bullies. 

What is Loui’s Intangibles game? 

 

They're all awful contracts, sure, yawn, but at least one guy can handle opposing bullies wihile he steadily declines into oblivion.

These past few years could have used some of that more than it needed Neal or Loui. 

 

 

It's ironic that you choose that incident.

 

Lucic got an instigator penalty and Colorado scored on the ensuing powerplay - the game wining goal.  Calgary loses in regulation.  Welcome to Calgary Milan - a lack of discipline costs your team a loss on opening night.

Vancouver thereby lead them in the playoff race heading into the asb.

 

Eriksson's 'intangibles' game = a penalty killer with the 2nd lowest on ice goals against among the forward group (on Motte has a lower penatly killing goals against per 60).

And when it comes to 5 on 5 - Eriksson's 3.4 goals for and 2.4 against, per 60 - is an outstanding goal differential under average circumstances, let alone while getting 39.5% ozone starts on a matchup unit.   Goals though, aren't 'intangible' - they're tangible -and what determine actual wins and losses.

 

If you're going to fluff Lucic's 'intangibles' try being fair to Eriksson - there's more to the game than pushback.  If the team hadn't addressed that in the offseason, you may have a stronger point, but in spite of moving Gudbranson, they turned around and added size and grit in a number of other acquisitions, so I'm not sure the 'necessity' of a face-puncher' really stands up that well.  I'd prefer to have neither of them at their terms, but oterwise, as I pointed out above, which obviously inspired your ironic gif post, LE aint as relatively bad (relative actual performance) as most of you are trying to sell.  Btw, again, ironically, I just defended Lucic's value relative to Neal, something that appears to have wooshed.

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A little irony in the fact that there are few people on these boards that admire/want Tkachuk / complain about that Juolevi pick more than 189....and few here could compete with how much 189 loathes Burrows.

 

and yet, when you get down to it, it's repeat turtle performances, after instigating/inciting/begging for a response. 

 

carry on with the Lucic gifs though, and the selective 'honour'.

 

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On 1/20/2020 at 11:17 AM, oldnews said:

 

 

Eriksson

5 goals, 8 pts, +4 in 30 games - all 5 on 5.

39.5% ozone starts, 49.7% corsi

11 takeaways, 2 giveaways +9

Probably goes without saying, but with 1:20 pk/game, the only of these players capable of killing a penatly / aside from a lack of physicality, easily the most versatile of the three.

The most effective 5 on 5 results of the three.

 

 

How many of these points were on an empty net :P. Loui is a superstar when the goalies gone. In all seriousness he has been helping the team win lately. 

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1 minute ago, Bure_Pavel said:

How many of these points were on an empty net :P. Loui is a superstar when the goalies gone. In all seriousness he has been helping the team win lately. 

Yes, exactly - I "lol'ed" last night when Shorty referred to them as the empty net specialists haha (not sure Pearson belonged in that - he's productive regardless.

Nice to see LE playing better - but not gonna lie - I still find him frustrating to watch (always wanting to see another gear - as I would the limits of players like Lucic or Neal...)

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1 hour ago, oldnews said:

Yes, exactly - I "lol'ed" last night when Shorty referred to them as the empty net specialists haha (not sure Pearson belonged in that - he's productive regardless.

Nice to see LE playing better - but not gonna lie - I still find him frustrating to watch (always wanting to see another gear - as I would the limits of players like Lucic or Neal...)

It's actually a good thing being Empty Net Specialists.  It means that line protects the lead in the last minute of the game (ie. defensively responsible) and are able to get a chance to put the game out of reach (ie. getting that EN goal) and thereby cementing the win.

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7 minutes ago, BPA said:

It's actually a good thing being Empty Net Specialists.  It means that line protects the lead in the last minute of the game (ie. defensively responsible) and are able to get a chance to put the game out of reach (ie. getting that EN goal) and thereby cementing the win.

not going to argue with that - but getting a goal earlier in the game (with a goaltender in the net) is also a good thing:ph34r:

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

Neal has tailed off.  Looch is providing the nuclear deterrent still.  Is the trade closer now, or still a crazy big win fir the Oilers? 

I say the Oilers and Neal still win this one. When I watch I still see Neal as a threat to score and the possibilty of upside. In Lucic I see a player that looks 50 and trending down. He's terrible. Let's revisit after Saturdays second game between the two teams in a week. That may get interesting. 

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1 hour ago, Alflives said:

Neal has tailed off.  Looch is providing the nuclear deterrent still.  Is the trade closer now, or still a crazy big win fir the Oilers? 

Alf, I'll reply to your question the way I'd expect you to...

 

Neither is a win.  One is an Oiler, the other is a Flame.  They're both losers!!!!

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3 hours ago, Alflives said:

Neal has tailed off.  Looch is providing the nuclear deterrent still.  Is the trade closer now, or still a crazy big win fir the Oilers? 

Neal's goal production gives quite a misleading impression (elaborated on the previous page).  It's more down to their contracts imo.

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3 hours ago, Alflives said:

Neal has tailed off.  Looch is providing the nuclear deterrent still.  Is the trade closer now, or still a crazy big win fir the Oilers? 

Edmonton got a productive player in exchange for getting rid of a locker room cancer.  Tkachuk is now developing even more character issues as a result of that worthless piece of trash being in the lineup, and Kassian still was able to give him what he had coming.  Addition by subtraction for Edmonton, for sure.

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2 hours ago, rekker said:

I say the Oilers and Neal still win this one. When I watch I still see Neal as a threat to score and the possibilty of upside. In Lucic I see a player that looks 50 and trending down. He's terrible. Let's revisit after Saturdays second game between the two teams in a week. That may get interesting. 

Neal is more dangerous....at both ends of the ice....Lucic does the 'little things' better lol.

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Neal is more dangerous....at both ends of the ice....Lucic does the 'little things' better lol.

If by "little things, you mean spearing guys in the balls, being a useless pylon on the ice, and classless waste of oxygen both on and off the ice, you're 100% right.  Edmonton automatically wins by not having that worthless scumbag disgrace their uniform every time he sets foot on the ice.

 

Mind you, Lucic's pitiful excuse for testicles definitely must count as "little things" after all the roids he's taken.

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5 minutes ago, King Heffy said:

If by "little things, you mean spearing guys in the balls, being a useless pylon on the ice, and classless waste of oxygen both on and off the ice, you're 100% right.  Edmonton automatically wins by not having that worthless scumbag disgrace their uniform every time he sets foot on the ice.

 

Mind you, Lucic's pitiful excuse for testicles definitely must count as "little things" after all the roids he's taken.

Lol. Can always count on Heffy for his opinion on Lucic.

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14 hours ago, King Heffy said:

If by "little things, you mean spearing guys in the balls, being a useless pylon on the ice, and classless waste of oxygen both on and off the ice, you're 100% right.  Edmonton automatically wins by not having that worthless scumbag disgrace their uniform every time he sets foot on the ice.

 

Mind you, Lucic's pitiful excuse for testicles definitely must count as "little things" after all the roids he's taken.

no, not what I meant Turbo - btw, you're getting a bit unhinged.

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17 hours ago, King Heffy said:

If by "little things, you mean spearing guys in the balls, being a useless pylon on the ice, and classless waste of oxygen both on and off the ice, you're 100% right.  Edmonton automatically wins by not having that worthless scumbag disgrace their uniform every time he sets foot on the ice.

 

Mind you, Lucic's pitiful excuse for testicles definitely must count as "little things" after all the roids he's taken.

Did you go to high school with the guy?

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