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[Signing] Rangers re-sign Jacob Trouba

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3 hours ago, zduck14 said:

Trouba is unreal and I agree, I'd take him over PK and Ekblad in a heartbeat. OEL, I feel, is very underrated mainly because of the team he plays for.

 

Weber, on the other hand, has been for several years and when healthy is still arguably the best all around defenceman in the league. If I'm building a team to win now, I take Weber, no question. 

 

That said, Trouba plays a very similar game to Weber and these kinds of players are very rare. The other one that comes to mind that I'd like to see in Vancouver is Matt Dumba.

 

I would've loved to have seen Trouba on the Canucks even at 8 mil a year if not for his, me first, american attitude (see Kesler, Ryan). 

You would take an aging 33 (34 year old next month) recently injury prone dman who's missed 80 games in the past 2 seasons over a 25 year old Trouba?  Weber is on the decline and Trouba is in his prime. I know you mentioned building a team to win now but with Weber's foot issues, I would go with Trouba.

 

6'4 229 Weber - 58GP 14G, 19A, 33Pts +15

6'3 202 Trouba- 82 GP, 8 G, 42A, 50Pts. +8

 

Both physical of course.

 

I am not sure what you mean by me first American attitude?  Ryan Kesler was Ryan Kesler.  Trouba wanted out of Winnipeg because of his wife's career situation and he had to play on the left side (as they had enough right handed shots on the depth chart.) 

 

https://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/rangers/jacob-trouba-trade-rangers-winnipeg-1.32576195

 

 

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22 hours ago, Maketherightmove said:

You're asking a lot. Myers is likely a 35 point guy, but he wasn't brought here to be a 50+ point guy. Quinn has that role covered. 

The irony. You say it’s asking a lot of Myers then turn around and say Quinn a first year player can do it. 

 

This forum sometimes 

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I feel like everyone’s overrating Trouba in this thread.  

 

He’s a solid d-man, on par with Ryan Ellis or Alex Edler at his peak.  

 

8 mil/season is getting up there though, you guys think he’s worth it for the next 7 years?  

 

I don’t think he’s worth it today, but if the cap keeps going up then I think he’ll be okay in terms of the cap hit. 

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People call me crazy but I think Hughes and Tryamkin are already better than Trouba and i was hoping we wouldnt give up anything for him. Im on the over rated side of the fence, hopefully for the Rangers sake he proves me wrong

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1 hour ago, Brock Botanen said:

People call me crazy but I think Hughes and Tryamkin are already better than Trouba and i was hoping we wouldnt give up anything for him. Im on the over rated side of the fence, hopefully for the Rangers sake he proves me wrong

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8 hours ago, Losing With Pride said:

You would take an aging 33 (34 year old next month) recently injury prone dman who's missed 80 games in the past 2 seasons over a 25 year old Trouba?  Weber is on the decline and Trouba is in his prime. I know you mentioned building a team to win now but with Weber's foot issues, I would go with Trouba.

 

6'4 229 Weber - 58GP 14G, 19A, 33Pts +15

6'3 202 Trouba- 82 GP, 8 G, 42A, 50Pts. +8

 

Both physical of course.

 

I am not sure what you mean by me first American attitude?  Ryan Kesler was Ryan Kesler.  Trouba wanted out of Winnipeg because of his wife's career situation and he had to play on the left side (as they had enough right handed shots on the depth chart.) 

 

https://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/rangers/jacob-trouba-trade-rangers-winnipeg-1.32576195

 

 

Oh I get the age factor but like I said, in a win now situation, Weber is simply the better player. Weber's leadership on top of being one of the best defensemen in the league really sets him apart from most players in my opinion. 

 

I remember asking Dan Hamhuis about Weber the day Weber was traded for Subban and he just shook his head. He said Nashville was crazy because Weber was the ultimate teammate and leader. Something I've never heard about Trouba. 

 

Winnipeg wanted him on their team. Drafted him #9 overall and gave him plenty of ice time to develop into the player he is today. For a kid to request a trade at 23 years old and try to specify where he wants to end up is selfish entitlement. He hadn't earned a damn thing the first time he want out.

 

Regarding their production, Weber scored at a 47 point pace. Not exactly declining production if you ask me. And while he's had a couple injuries over the last two years, Trouba has only played a full season twice in 6 seasons.

 

Don't get me wrong, for team rebuilding I'd love to have a player like Trouba but as of right now, Weber is still the better player.

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On 7/20/2019 at 12:38 PM, Setyoureyesontheprize said:

The irony. You say it’s asking a lot of Myers then turn around and say Quinn a first year player can do it. 

 

This forum sometimes 

Assuming QH settles in on the first PP unit I think he's a hell of a lot more likely to hit 50 than Myers. Don't you? 

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On 7/20/2019 at 4:31 PM, Brock Botanen said:

People call me crazy but I think Hughes and Tryamkin are already better than Trouba

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If any of you guys actually watched Trouba this season, you’d know that he was a huge defensive liability and single hand-idly cost the jets game 5 vs the blues (and essentially the series)

 

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On 7/19/2019 at 5:22 PM, Maketherightmove said:

You're asking a lot. Myers is likely a 35 point guy, but he wasn't brought here to be a 50+ point guy. Quinn has that role covered. 

Let Myers do the heavy lifting on a Hughes Myers pairing.  He should see an uptick in production just playing with Hughes, another uptick getting more ice time and better linemates.  

 

Myers is a money puck signing.  A secondary guy playing behind others that got the better ice time and zone time.  

 

Vancity has a solid middle tier defence with our mix.  Depending on Hughes could be a risky plan, being a rookie and all, but I see him as the catalyst that takes our team to the next level.  

 

IMO Hughes, Quinn, not Jack, could be in a position to run away with the Calder.  The position he is going to be in, is primed to succeed.  

 

With the trade price and the cap hit, Myers is better value than Trouba IMO.  Never thought the Jets would lose both at the same time.  

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