Nuxfanabroad Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) Here's hoping this doesn't descend into an argument-thread(like our world needs That!). Figure this might lend itself to some decent hockey talk. Part 1, pls list the 5 teams(assuming Edm & OTT) you believe have been managed the worst since 2016 draft. *Bonus* 3 worst moves(standing alone) that have been made in that time period. Edited August 16, 2019 by Nuxfanabroad title change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) Ottawa, TO & Edm would be my three teams. edit: Perhaps add Buff & Minny? Hmm..this is tough. Edited August 16, 2019 by Nuxfanabroad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alflives Posted August 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2019 Edmonton... Edmonton...Edmonton 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownky Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Edmonton Ottawa San Jose Edmonton and Ottawa are self explanatory. San Jose has an old team, who just re-signed Karlsson while losing probably their most impact forward (who was also getting old) - and looking more and more like they're going to need to sign Marleau and Thornton at a combined age of 80 to ice a team. Their window has shut, and they're playing like it hasn't. Worst three moves: Neal for Lucic. Both teams lose, badly. It's neat how that works. I'm so happy it happened to Calgary and Edmonton. Tavares for $infinity. The leafs window opened and closed last year on that move. They won't get it done in the playoffs, their back end is not strong enough. It basically guaranteed Matthews is gonna bolt, because they can't afford the team AND him. No Matthews, no Leafs. Marner is going to take up whatever is left. Karlsson re-signing: I was on board with a "throw all the money at Karlsson" - until I saw just how broken he is. Playing 30 minutes a night in Ottawa getting mushed, he's on his way downhill fast I think. He might very well have a good couple years, but it's going to look like a worse Seabrook contract sooner rather than later. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: Edmonton... Edmonton...Edmonton Just now, brownky said: Edmonton Ottawa San Jose Edmonton and Ottawa are self explanatory. San Jose has an old team, who just re-signed Karlsson while losing probably their most impact forward (who was also getting old) - and looking more and more like they're going to need to sign Marleau and Thornton at a combined age of 80 to ice a team. Their window has shut, and they're playing like it hasn't. Worst three moves: Neal for Lucic. Both teams lose, badly. It's neat how that works. I'm so happy it happened to Calgary and Edmonton. Tavares for $infinity. The leafs window opened and closed last year on that move. They won't get it done in the playoffs, their back end is not strong enough. It basically guaranteed Matthews is gonna bolt, because they can't afford the team AND him. No Matthews, no Leafs. Marner is going to take up whatever is left. Karlsson re-signing: I was on board with a "throw all the money at Karlsson" - until I saw just how broken he is. Playing 30 minutes a night in Ottawa getting mushed, he's on his way downhill fast I think. He might very well have a good couple years, but it's going to look like a worse Seabrook contract sooner rather than later. Agreed Gents. Was thinking should just make this 5 worst managed teams(assuming everyone has OTT & Edmunchuk, top-2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) Edmonton - Hall for a top 3 defencemen - Eberle for eventually Gagner - Ruining the 1st three development years of Puljijarvi Pittsburgh - Winning back to back cups then deciding speed and great defence wasn’t the reason for their success... Reeves for a 1st is a major head scratcher. - Gudbranson - Johnson Minnesota - Paul Fenton, and everything he did - Hiring Paul Fenton - Not firing Paul Fenton after the El Niño trade Edit: didn’t even mention wasting McDavid Edited August 16, 2019 by Art Vandelay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) - Duchene to Ottawa disaster - When Vegas sent nice picks to Det for flop, Tatar(Wings got a 1st, 2nd & a 3rd!!!) - Hall for Larsson ^These three stand out as pretty stinky. Imagine how haters would howl if JB committed such glaring, ghastly gaffes?! Edited August 16, 2019 by Nuxfanabroad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) Edmonton Ottawa Buffalo Edit** Adding in The Islanders The Wild The Isles made or fell in to some absolutely amazing trades but those contracts...wtf come on Ladd? The Wild basically gave up on some solid talent and are spinning their wheels in mediocrity Edited August 16, 2019 by Warhippy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph. Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 & 2 are the Oilers and Senators, not really sure who takes the top spot at the moment. Probably the Oil due to their experience at the top of this list. 3. San Jose 4. Minny 5. Maybe LA? Phaneuf, Kovalchuk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted August 16, 2019 Author Share Posted August 16, 2019 The Laffs have been a debacle. Similar to NJ, merely depending on tanking & lotto bounces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 Definitely EDM and OTT and I'll say the other 3 are: ARI, MTL and BUF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shekky Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Art Vandelay said: Edmonton - Hall for a top 3 defencemen - Eberle for eventually Gagner - Ruining the 1st three development years of Puljijarvi Pittsburgh - Winning back to back cups then deciding speed and great defence wasn’t the reason for their success... Reeves for a 1st is a major head scratcher. - Gudbranson - Johnson Minnesota - Paul Fenton, and everything he did - Hiring Paul Fenton - Not firing Paul Fenton after the El Niño trade Edit: didn’t even mention wasting McDavid hate to disagree but Penguins sending Pearson to Vancouver was a great move not seeing the negatives here Edmonton, Ottawa, Columbus/Winnipeg Its a toss up between Columbus and Winnipeg but at the end of the day I think Columbus is worse off then the Jets as the Jets still have a lot of good talent where as Columbus has Foligno to complain about all the star players leaving 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 86Viking Posted August 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2019 its a Canuck forum but Vancouver has to be considered. So called rebuilding team, over paying Miller then LE when we should have kept that cap space, 0 need to get into our cap crunch situation if we didn't go out every July spending frivilously on aging or over hyped UFA to TRY make us a playoff team sooner and skip the proper rebuilding process. GM JB- Given out bad contracts- with poor pay structure and NTC/NMC, giving extra years to a deal to get said player, traded picks away when we were rebuilding. We are just starting to hopefully trend upwards and we are a cap team...not ideal for a team that hasn't been in the playoffs the last 4 years. Iffy top draft picks selections considering top 6 picks ( OJ tbd, Jake not looking like a sniping PF yet and he has been around a while. Trading young recent prospects IE McCann or Forsling. Making some poor trades But our owners are the ones who think he has done a good job and gave him an extension so time will tell...big year for the whole organization as a whole tho. Just another tid bit to irk the JB lovers, yes he has made a couple nice draft choices, but where is the 2nd through 7th round nhl players on our roster. Most teams can find a guy in those round who have made some kind of impact. We have GAUD, who I hope has a big year but our picks have underwhelmed imo. Hope Lind and Gadj can have a solid 2nd year in Utica. 1 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 How about Panarin, a 6th, and Tyler Motte for: Anton Forsberg, Brandon Saad, and 5th rounder. If Benning did a deal like that he'd be crucified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 (edited) Edmonton - Not an NHL team Ottawa - Ownership makes mgmt's job impossible Toronto- Nylander extension while icing a terrible defense and a 10 ply team Minnesota - Just a bizarre set of trades Buffalo - Not sure what they're doing there; just trading assets for multiple RD who can't play defense. Honorable mention - Washington. How the hell do you let Trotz go after he finally wins you a Stanley Cup? Edited August 17, 2019 by King Heffy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 For the last 2 years I'd say Minni, Detroit, Ducks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: For the last 2 years I'd say Minni, Detroit, Ducks. Ducks are tough to call poorly managed because of how well they draft late though. Sam Steel has a decent shot at winning the Calder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6string Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Edmonton, Ottawa, Florida, Los Angeles and Arizona. Florida firing Gerard Gallant was a jaw dropper as was the Coyotes naming Chayka at 26 years old as a general manager. Edmonton's a tire fire, in the far east Ottawa is a dumpster fire. The Kings hiring Desjardins, signing Kovalchuk so Desjardin can bench him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted August 17, 2019 Author Share Posted August 17, 2019 Laffs - wrap 40 mill of cap up in 4 offensive pieces?!(IF Marner can ever get signed) - Marleau stupidity(why 3 yrs, not a 2 yr?) forces them to absolutely squander a 1st to an eastern rival - Brutal D-core who all become FA's at the same second - Billion $ entity puts an untried, gullible kid in charge? - All they seem to do is use financial wherewithal to take on others' useless(LTIR) contracts. So creative! Inexplicable arrogance from a fanbase that's won a single PO series in the past two decades. Won't mind watching this overhyped outfit crash like new Boeing sales! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakrami Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Edmonton, Philadelphia, LA, Minnesota, Chicago after 2016, Dallas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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