[Report] Canucks sign GM Jim Benning to contract extension

[JM_]

19 minutes ago, Viper007 said:

I don't think the Canucks' qualified Hutton, so he's not a RFA like Goldy is.

Hutty wasn't qualified, he's a UFA now. There's just no room for Hutty either, roster or cap wise. I suspect he'll pick up a show-me contract, 1 year 1 mil per somewhere. 

[Alflives]

3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

Hutty wasn't qualified, he's a UFA now. There's just no room for Hutty either, roster or cap wise. I suspect he'll pick up a show-me contract, 1 year 1 mil per somewhere. 

PTO for Hutton.  He’s 26.  

[Canuck Surfer]

12 minutes ago, Alflives said:

God in Heaven.  If we could get Tryamkin back for this season, how awesome would that be?  

Edler Myers

Tree Hughes

Tanev 

 

I see Tree getting a big signing bonus as the KHL season closes. A chance to double or triple this years income, as the leveragel that redelivers this behemoth defender to our team.

 

Just in time to join the team for a play off drive!

 

 

 

 

Instead of trading for a rental...

 

[Jester13]

Good on FA for allowing JB to see through his plan, a plan that is obviously working. I love that this won't be a distraction this year, and JB can continue to focus on creating an elite team again. With all the elite prospects he's brought in, I'd say he's a GM that we'll have for many years to come. 

 

In Benning I Trust.

[Alflives]

4 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said:

I see Tree getting a big signing bonus as the KHL season closes. A chance to double or triple this years income, as the leveragel that redelivers this behemoth defender to our team.

 

Just in time to join the team for a play off drive!

 

 

 

 

Instead of trading for a rental...

 

Oh crap, how awesome would that be?  Could we sneak Podz over too?  How about adding Tree and Podz in March?  

[Bure_Pavel]

Benning has deserved his new contract, he has been getting better in my opinion every year. Great signings this offseason, but that JT Miller move was still pretty horrible seeing as we could have had Nyquist for free instead and how stacked the 2020 draft is. Hopefully he learns from it and continues to improve.  

[JeremyCuddles]

Just listened to Benning's presser about his extension. There was like 3-4 questions back to back about "getting some help in the front office" or a President of hockey ops. These idiots still probably think he's bad at free agent signings and trades. Then I read the comment section and seen fans commenting about how he is bad at trades and free agent signings. Youtube is just as bad as Twitter at this point.

[JM_]

27 minutes ago, Alflives said:

PTO for Hutton.  He’s 26.  

you know it might get to that. I heard someone on the wire, 650 maybe? can't quite recall, that he did have some 1 year offers but was waiting for better offers. Dunno, I can't see any GM not playing hardball with him at this point. Get a guy for cheap desperate to prove himself, someones going to take him but no ones giving him 3+ mil per. 

[JM_]

Just now, N7Nucks said:

Just listened to Benning's presser about his extension. There was like 3-4 questions back to back about "getting some help in the front office" or a President of hockey ops. These idiots still probably think he's bad at free agent signings and trades. Then I read the comment section and seen fans commenting about how he is bad at trades and free agent signings. Youtube is just as bad as Twitter at this point.

he did say there were some moves in the office tho, I wonder if Brackett is going to get a promotion? 

[spur1]

2 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said:

Benning has deserved his new contract, he has been getting better in my opinion every year. Great signings this offseason, but that JT Miller move was still pretty horrible seeing as we could have had Nyquist for free instead and how stacked the 2020 draft is. Hopefully he learns from it and continues to improve.  

I’ll take JT over Nyquist all day long. 

[Laheys Liquor]

3 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said:

Benning has deserved his new contract, he has been getting better in my opinion every year. Great signings this offseason, but that JT Miller move was still pretty horrible seeing as we could have had Nyquist for free instead and how stacked the 2020 draft is. Hopefully he learns from it and continues to improve.  

Miller >>>>> 1st,3rd, Mazanec, Nyquist

Nyquist would not of worked on this team at all imo

[JeremyCuddles]

2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

he did say there were some moves in the office tho, I wonder if Brackett is going to get a promotion? 

He did say there were some promotions going around that they should be announcing in the coming weeks. Still felt off putting they way they kept saying he needed help. Maybe I am just a narcissist and I am assuming the media has ill-intent with their repeating that same question.

[aGENT]

4 minutes ago, N7Nucks said:

He did say there were some promotions going around that they should be announcing in the coming weeks. Still felt off putting they way they kept saying he needed help. Maybe I am just a narcissist and I am assuming the media has ill-intent with their repeating that same question.

Herpa Dim-Jim derp!

[JM_]

3 minutes ago, N7Nucks said:

He did say there were some promotions going around that they should be announcing in the coming weeks. Still felt off putting they way they kept saying he needed help. Maybe I am just a narcissist and I am assuming the media has ill-intent with their repeating that same question.

thats the tell for the story they want to put out vs what Jims actually saying. Cue the "Benning needs help" stories. I'm sure he'd like some, and he's probably going to build that from within with guys he trusts. Should be interesting to see the new roles and titles.

 

I did find the LTIR comment interesting relating to cap compliance... i wonder if there's more than just Roussel on that list. I wonder if Sutter is still on the mend? 

[JeremyCuddles]

Just now, aGENT said:

Herpa Dim-Jim derp!

The vibes I was getting, especially after reading the comment section. Lol. I am a conspiracy theorist. I seen the connections. 

[Bure_Pavel]

10 minutes ago, Laheys Liquor said:

Miller >>>>> 1st,3rd, Mazanec, Nyquist

Nyquist would not of worked on this team at all imo

2020 draft will be comparable to 2015, Boeser, Barzal, Chabot, Kyle Connor were all drafted by playoff teams that year. Nyquist scored 60 points last year.

 

Nice evaluation though....

 

 

Edited August 20, 2019 by Bure_Pavel

[48MPHSlapShot]

11 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said:

Benning has deserved his new contract, he has been getting better in my opinion every year. Great signings this offseason, but that JT Miller move was still pretty horrible seeing as we could have had Nyquist for free instead and how stacked the 2020 draft is. Hopefully he learns from it and continues to improve.  

I don't think this is quite fair, as JT Miller is younger, cheaper, and an overall better player than Nyquist is at this point. Not to mention the physicality and durability that JT Miller brings to the lineup. The ability to play all 3 forward positions is a huge plus and should play a significant role in pulling is through when the injury bug hits. God forbid one of Horvat or Petey go down for a significant amount of time, we now have someone that can fill in for them. Had we signed Nyquist instead, we'd have to throw Sutter into a top 6 role if one of Horvat or Petey went down, and I think we all know how that would turn out. 

 

The age is a pretty significant factor as well. Nyquist is about to turn 30, and is just entering the first year of his new four year contract with a cap hit of 5.5 mill per season. By the final year of that contract Nyquist will be 34 years old and I suspect will be a less effective player than he is now. There's a relatively strong possibility that his contract becomes a bit of an anchor, while I think it's pretty safe to say that Miller, who only just turned 26, is probably going to be able to keep up his level of play for the remaining 4 years of his contract with a cap hit of 5.25 mill per season. 

 

I'm not saying that the difference between the players is worth a mid 1st rd pick (honestly, if presented with the 2 scenarios, I'd probably sign Nyquist to retain the 1st at the expense of Miller as well), but there is a significant difference between Miller and Nyquist that shouldn't be ignored. 

[aGENT]

11 minutes ago, Bure_Pavel said:

2020 draft will be comparable to 2015, Boeser, Barzal, Chabot, Kyle Connor were all drafted by playoff teams that year. Nyquist scored 60 points last year.

 

Nice evaluation though....

 

 

So were Senyshyn, Juulsen etc. We also might not be giving up a 2020 pick. We could also add a first back. You're getting pissed off at a story that isn't even written yet.

[GhostsOf1994]

@Bure_Pavel

 

 

 

On 8/18/2019 at 2:08 PM, GhostsOf1994 said:

How about i lay this out for you in steps?

 

1- Miller for a 1st 3rd and mazanec, it is a good deal by benning. I believe he got a good deal, time will tell.

 

What are the odds of a 1st rounder drafted between 10-25 even making it to the nhl?

 

How long until that same player makes it to the nhl after the 2020 or 2021 draft? 2-5 years? 2025 2026 ?

 

Miller in his prime for 5.25 x 4 years is a guarantee vs risk of an unknown player that will likely take 5 years before he makes an impact at the NHL level if at all.

 

Look at our winger depth moving forward, miller, ferland, boeser, virtanen, hoglander, podkolzin...players here or will be in the system/ property for the next 4 years atleast.

 

 

2 - Nyquist Vs Miller - who is better? Who brings more to a team? Who is better for playoffs? Age? Playing style? Physicality?

 

Nyquist has 500gp and 300p

 

Miller has 435gp and 237p

Nyquist is not as a prolific hitter as miller, miller also fights when need be.

 

Miller over nyquist in the playoffs.

 

61gp 26 points for jt.

55gp 19 points nyquist 

 

J.T. Miller is 4 years younger and in his prime. 

 

Nyquist is 30 and will start to slow down and decline faster than miller.

 

Nyquist is 5"11 and 184lbs, Miller is 6"1 and 218lbs - 2 inches and 34lbs heavier.

 

We have a nyquist already in baertschi.

 

Nyquist signing reminds me of loui eriksson signing in van, looked ok at the time but have regretted it since the first off season after signing.

 

 

I even added a picture to keep your attention! Look pretty colors too!

 

[TheRussianRocket1994]

29 minutes ago, N7Nucks said:

Just listened to Benning's presser about his extension. There was like 3-4 questions back to back about "getting some help in the front office" or a President of hockey ops. These idiots still probably think he's bad at free agent signings and trades. Then I read the comment section and seen fans commenting about how he is bad at trades and free agent signings. Youtube is just as bad as Twitter at this point.

People can have opinions / not like everything he’s done, but it’s beyond me why the media / some fans can’t give him credit where credit is due. If he was perfect / won a cup, they still wouldn’t. It’s nuts!!! Do they follow any other GMs / teams...it’s like they live in a bubble.