UK Citizenship Stripped from Jihadi Jack, Leaves Him with Canadian Citizenship

[DonLever]

https://globalnews.ca/news/5780603/jihadi-jack-citizenship-revoked/

 

British-Canadian Jack Letts, nicknamed by the British media “Jihadi Jack,” has been stripped of his British citizenship, leaving him only with Canadian citizenship.

John Letts confirmed to Global News’ Roy Green that his son’s British citizenship has been revoked.

 

A spokesman for Minister of Public Safety Ralph Goodale said in a statement the government is aware of the U.K.’s decision.

“Terrorism knows no borders, so countries need to work together to keep each other safe. Canada is disappointed that the United Kingdom has taken this unilateral action to off-load their responsibilities,” the statement read.

“Investigating, arresting, charging and prosecuting any Canadian involved in terrorism or violent extremism is our primary objective. They must be held accountable for their actions.”

 

A statement from the U.K.’s Home Office said revoking British citizenship is one way it counters terrorist threats. It said it does not comment on individual cases.

“Decisions on depriving a dual national of citizenship are based on substantial advice from officials, lawyers and the intelligence agencies and all available information,” the U.K. Home Office statement said.

 

Letts joined ISIS as a teenager and is currently being held in a Kurdish-run jail in northern Syria.

A Muslim convert, Letts was a U.K. citizen who also holds Canadian citizenship through his father. In 2014, he traveled to Syria, where he was captured by Kurdish forces.

The statement from Goodale’s office acknowledged that the Canadian government is “aware of some Canadian citizens currently detained in Syria.”

 

“There is no legal obligation to facilitate their return,” the statement read. “We will not expose our consular officials to undue risk in this dangerous part of the world.”

It also noted that Goodale’s office is “not able to comment on specific cases or national security operational matters.”

 

The Mail on Sunday story claimed the U.K.’s decision had ignited a diplomatic spat with Canada — a characterization that the Canadian government contests.

Edited August 19, 2019 by DonLever

[DonLever]

 

“There is no legal obligation to facilitate their return,” the statement read. “We will not expose our consular officials to undue risk in this dangerous part of the world.”

It also noted that Goodale’s office is “not able to comment on specific cases or national security operational matters.” 

 

So why was Omar Khadr brought back to Canada and given $10 Million?

Edited August 19, 2019 by DonLever

[Baer.]

4 minutes ago, DonLever said:

 

“There is no legal obligation to facilitate their return,” the statement read. “We will not expose our consular officials to undue risk in this dangerous part of the world.”

It also noted that Goodale’s office is “not able to comment on specific cases or national security operational matters.” 

 

So why was Omar Khadr brought back to Canada and given $10 Million?

I guess it's different when said person is given an illegal trial.

[JM_]

6 minutes ago, DonLever said:

 

“There is no legal obligation to facilitate their return,” the statement read. “We will not expose our consular officials to undue risk in this dangerous part of the world.”

It also noted that Goodale’s office is “not able to comment on specific cases or national security operational matters.” 

 

So why was Omar Khadr brought back to Canada and given $10 Million?

the UK did give us the shaft in this. It leaves Canada in a position to make this guy stateless, which we can't do under our international obligations. Basically the UK made it our problem. 

 

Khadr is a totally different issue, don't conflate the two. 

 

Edited August 19, 2019 by Jimmy McGill

[JM_]

1 minute ago, Baer. said:

I guess it's different when said person is given an illegal trial.

and a child soldier. And being in Guantanamo under US guard. 

[DonLever]

16 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

Khadr is a totally different issue, don't conflate the two. 

 

Both are Canadian citizens and have rights.   What is stopping the parents from suing the Canadian government for not helping their son?

[MoneypuckOverlord]

6 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

the UK did give us the shaft in this. It leaves Canada in a position to make this guy stateless, which we can't do under our international obligations. Basically the UK made it our problem. 

 

Khadr is a totally different issue, don't conflate the two. 

 

no, they didn't, regardless of how many citizens the terrorists has, Britain, who's had a large number of their citizens go to Syria, to join "Isis" has strip numerous citizens of their UK citizen. They are not screwing us, on purpose, they've done that regardless of it turning them "stateless" well they chose to go Stateless when they joined the Islamic State.  I support UK doing this and I hope Canada does the same.

[sonoman]

38 minutes ago, DonLever said:

 

“There is no legal obligation to facilitate their return,” the statement read. “We will not expose our consular officials to undue risk in this dangerous part of the world.”

It also noted that Goodale’s office is “not able to comment on specific cases or national security operational matters.” 

 

So why was Omar Khadr brought back to Canada and given $10 Million?

Wasn’t he in Guantanamo by then? Still 10 million though :facepalm

[thedestroyerofworlds]

14 minutes ago, DonLever said:

Both are Canadian citizens and have rights.   What is stopping the parents from suing the Canadian government for not helping their son?

There are a series of very specific reasons why Khadr got his settlement.  Probably #1 would be the Supreme Court ruling that his rights were violated.  I don't see how this case is in any way similar.

[sonoman]

37 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

the UK did give us the shaft in this. It leaves Canada in a position to make this guy stateless, which we can't do under our international obligations. Basically the UK made it our problem. 

 

Khadr is a totally different issue, don't conflate the two. 

 

$10 million and a tearful apology from JT incoming. 

Edited August 19, 2019 by sonoman

[thedestroyerofworlds]

37 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

the UK did give us the shaft in this. It leaves Canada in a position to make this guy stateless, which we can't do under our international obligations. Basically the UK made it our problem. 

 

Khadr is a totally different issue, don't conflate the two. 

 

Ya, kinda sucks considering the whole terrorism part was only added recently, and only applies to dual citizens.  Since he lost his British citizenship, he is no longer a dual citizen and we are stuck with him.

 

LINK

 

Grounds for revoking citizenship

Canadian law allows for revocation in certain circumstances. Subsections 10(1) and 10.1(1) of the Citizenship Act provide that a person’s citizenship or renunciation of citizenship may be revoked if the person obtains, retains, renounces, or resumes citizenship by

• false representation;
• fraud; or
• knowingly concealing material circumstances.

Citizenship may also be revoked if a person (who is a dual citizen), before or after the coming into force of subsections 10(2) and 10.1(2) and while the person was a Canadian citizen,

• was convicted of terrorism, high treason, treason, or spying offences, depending on the sentence received; or
• served as a member of an armed force of a country or as a member of an organized armed group and that country or group was engaged in armed conflict with Canada

  Revocation and Canada’s international obligations

  Article 8 of the United Nations Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness states that a state is not in breach of its obligations should it render a person stateless for having obtained the status through fraud or misrepresentation.

  In order to comply with Canada’s obligations under the United Nations Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness, subsection 10.4(1) of the SCCA provides that revocation of citizenship on the grounds of being convicted of terrorism, high treason, treason, or spying offences, or of being a member of an armed force or organized armed group engaged in armed conflict with Canada will apply only to persons with dual citizenship. The Minister must have reasonable grounds to believe that the person is a citizen of another country before pursuing revocation under these grounds. Subsection 10.4(2) of the SCCA provides that the onus rests with the individual to prove, on a balance of probabilities, that they are not a citizen of another country.

[thedestroyerofworlds]

5 minutes ago, sonoman said:

$10 million and a tearful apology from JT incoming. 

Only if the Supreme Court rules that the Canadian Government violated his rights.  That happened in the Khadr case, and that is the #1 reason why the government settled Khadr's civil case saving taxpayers like you and me money. 

 

Please tell me how this in this case his rights as a Canadian Citizen were violated??   

[NewbieCanuckFan]

3 minutes ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Please tell me how this in this case his rights as a Canadian Citizen were violated??   

This thread violated my rights as it robbed me out of several minutes of the short time I have left.

[SabreFan1]

So much for the benefits of being part of the commonwealth. 

 

They just played "tag" with a terrorists and shoved him off onto you guys.

 

If Canada doesn't dump the UK once Elizabeth is dead or abdicates her crown, I will dumbfounded. 

[riffraff]

I heard he is subletting at JT’s house.

[JM_]

12 hours ago, thedestroyerofworlds said:

Ya, kinda sucks considering the whole terrorism part was only added recently, and only applies to dual citizens.  Since he lost his British citizenship, he is no longer a dual citizen and we are stuck with him.

 

LINK

 

Grounds for revoking citizenship

Canadian law allows for revocation in certain circumstances. Subsections 10(1) and 10.1(1) of the Citizenship Act provide that a person’s citizenship or renunciation of citizenship may be revoked if the person obtains, retains, renounces, or resumes citizenship by

• false representation;
• fraud; or
• knowingly concealing material circumstances.

Citizenship may also be revoked if a person (who is a dual citizen), before or after the coming into force of subsections 10(2) and 10.1(2) and while the person was a Canadian citizen,

• was convicted of terrorism, high treason, treason, or spying offences, depending on the sentence received; or
• served as a member of an armed force of a country or as a member of an organized armed group and that country or group was engaged in armed conflict with Canada

  Revocation and Canada’s international obligations

  Article 8 of the United Nations Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness states that a state is not in breach of its obligations should it render a person stateless for having obtained the status through fraud or misrepresentation.

  In order to comply with Canada’s obligations under the United Nations Convention on the Reduction of Statelessness, subsection 10.4(1) of the SCCA provides that revocation of citizenship on the grounds of being convicted of terrorism, high treason, treason, or spying offences, or of being a member of an armed force or organized armed group engaged in armed conflict with Canada will apply only to persons with dual citizenship. The Minister must have reasonable grounds to believe that the person is a citizen of another country before pursuing revocation under these grounds. Subsection 10.4(2) of the SCCA provides that the onus rests with the individual to prove, on a balance of probabilities, that they are not a citizen of another country.

Good links.

 

the guy is/was clearly a UK citizen, spent his whole life there. They did offload the issue to us since the Canadian citizenship was something "Jack" never intended to use. 

[JM_]

13 hours ago, DonLever said:

Both are Canadian citizens and have rights.   What is stopping the parents from suing the Canadian government for not helping their son?

what would they sure for?

 

They are totally different situations, but I guess that never stopped Trudeau haters from wanting to blend them together. Problem is all you do is miss the actual important issues here, like how do we handle situations where countries leave us hanging with people like this. 

 

Agreeing with the UK isn't a solution, at all. We're now stuck with this idiot. 

 

Edited August 19, 2019 by Jimmy McGill

[Ronaldoescobar]

I think the main agreed is this is definitely 100% fault of JT and liberal communist socialist fascists.

[JM_]

10 hours ago, SabreFan1 said:

So much for the benefits of being part of the commonwealth. 

 

its particularly noticeable when UK PMs talk about how their relationship with the US is their most important one. 

[riffraff]

5 minutes ago, Ronaldoescobar said:

I think the main agreed is this is definitely 100% fault of JT and liberal communist socialist fascists.

Do you wake up this accurate every day?